whats up with vegetarians??

Question

eating animals is a natural way of life. we are part of the food chain, we are animals created to eat other animals. imagine if all of us were vegetarians the cows and pigs would overpopulate.

well...that theory may be a bit off, but i really think we are designed biologically and mentally to eat them. plus they are so tasty.

okay so a lot of you are getting offended and saying 'well that's your opinion'

duh it is. so why dont you try to enlighten me with your logic? also, do you think it is cruel when lets say, a snake eats a mouse?

okay sorry for getting all of you riled up. looking at some of the essays you wrote, i honestly dont care what vegetarians think and why they choose this lifestyle.

sorry for wasting your time...i got tired of reading the really long preachy ones =]]

Answer 1

it's cool! i love meat

Answer 2

If meat-eating is so 'natural' why do so many flesh-eaters come to the veg section to 'prove' how natural it is? Yes, we have canine teeth & are able to digest meat when necessary, but biologically we're much better suited for plant foods. We have the long digestive tract typical of herbivores-- natural flesh-eaters have *much* shorter systems so the carcass can pass through before it creates toxins. The majority of our teeth are not suited for tearing flesh from bone & we have much milder stomach acids than do natural flesh-eaters. These are only some of the indications that wer're not 'designed biologically' to consume flesh.
As for the mental/emotional aspect, if this is true, why is meat usually so well-disguised before it is eaten? In most cases the eyes, tail, bones etc. are removed before it's put on a plate & besides it's cooked & seasoned beyond recognition. Ppl insist that 'food' animals are treated decently & killed painlessly, that small farms where animals romp in green pastures & breed naturally are the rule rather than the rare exception. When you see a chicken or other 'food' animal, does your mouth water? Do you feel the urge to rip into it with your teeth & claws & devour it on the spot? You would if you were 'mentally designed' to eat flesh. Again, if it was natural, flesh-eaters wouldn't be coming here so often in a desparate attempt to 'prove' it.
As for taste, is everything that tastes good natural, or even good to eat? How much attraction is from the taste of the flesh itself instead of the sauces, spices & garnishes? Everything I've eaten so far today has been uncooked, unseasoned & quite delicious.
Cows & pigs would *not* over populate, nor would they become extinct (I hear both of these arguments a lot). Presently, there are way too many cows being bred b/c of the meat industry.
A snake has no choice in diet & unless it is a 'pet' snake eating a mouse from a feeder bin, the mouse has had the opportunity to live free until the moment he or she becomes the snake's meal unlike animals produced for 'food' who usually suffer their entire lives.

Answer 3

learn some manners. i beleive animals were here to live in harmony with us humans. i think slaightering an animal for the selfish reason of giving us food when we CAN live healthier without it is mean and cruel. and i also thiink that u should read up a bit about how meat is unhealthy. u may not care but some people do actually love aand care about animals. so be a bit more nicer when u touch on subjects.


p.s the food chain can go F itself

ur also way right ur logic is entirely off the point of being right. l boogie has the best answer i think...

Answer 4

Well it depends...u know im a vegetarian. I think we can have different opinions depending on what kind of person we are. I respect your opinion. You theory is not a a bit off, it's actually true! We are a part of the food chain but remember we are at the top.....so that way we can have different opinions. anyways if we were lions we would only eat meat...but since we are humans we are omnivores..so we can eat meat and eat vegs! so we are really not designed biologically or mentally to eat them!

Answer 5

You see, this is the weird thing about this forum: about twice a day, there is a "question" that is posted which says basically that vegetarians and vegans are always holier-than-thou, always harassing meat-eaters, always trying to push our ways on them. Then, about 10 times a day, there are questions posted in the veg forum by meat-eaters specifically to harass and annoy us.

We don't go in the general area and spout off about meat-eaters and their cruel, murderous ways, but they do come here, and we still get the label "preachy". It makes no sense.

To answer the question, eating animals may have been natural at one point, but the way meat is produced in 2007 is the polar opposite of natural. It is a sick, horrible industry. And, as others have pointed out, overpopulation would not be a problem, we would simply not overbreed as we have been doing for decades. If everyone were vegan, the planet would be a much more natural, healthy place to live.

Answer 6

If all of us were vegetarians, there wouldn't be mass farms of cows and pigs.. so overpopulation wouldn't be a problem. =) so a little off? nah.. all the way off...

I'm not a veggie.. but at one point I was. I feel heathiest when I limit my meat intake. Everyone's body is different though. I LOVE a nice juicy steak every now and then.. don't get me wrong.. I just prefer to eat limited amounts..

Some veggies do it because of allergies. I have a friend who is Vegan because any type of animal product makes her violently ill.

Some veggies do it because they are against animal cruelty. Personally, I don't think it's cruel to kill an animal to eat it.. God gave us dominion over the animals, but I think it should be done humanely, and again, sparingly. I think its wrong to kill the amount of animals we do to support fast food restaurants, if that makes sense.

The conditions most animals are kept in when they are raised to be slaughtered are extremely inhumane, however, even if the actually "slaughter" is kept humane. Not to mention, they aren't allowed to grow normally.. they are given growth hormones, antibiotics, etc... etc... and its pretty scary... there's a lot of research going on to show the negative health effects of these "additives."

So, that makes me want to use meat even more sparingly.. and I try to go with the organic stuff, and the stuff that says its free range... stuff like that...

Hopefully that makes SOME sense... and helped just a little!

Answer 7

As far as the snake eating the mouse, that's just nature doing its thing. Since animals must hunt for and catch what they eat, their bodies and resources dictate what they can and cannot eat. As humans, we have the ability to choose what we eat.

Yeah, you're right. Your logic IS way off. Physiologically, our bodies are more like animals that eat vegetables. Let's start from the top down: First, our teeth are round and are good for grinding, not ripping and tearing flesh. (and if you think we have "canine" teeth, compare your canines to that of a lion. THOSE are canines!) The enzymes in our saliva are strong, but not strong enough to begin breaking down raw meat (that's why we have to cook ours...animals can eat it raw b/c that's what they're designed to do). Next stop, the stomach! Granted, our stomach acid is potent, but it pales in comparison to carnivorous animals. Their stomach acid breaks down the meat quickly and passes it through a short series of intestines in order to be excreted as waste. The whole process takes a matter of hours. The human digestive tract on the other hand resembles that of herbivores. The intestines are long and it can take days for the food to completely pass out of us as waste.
After the meat's few nutrients have been absorbed, it practically sits there and rots in our stomachs until it can be broken down into waste. Studies have shown that certain types of cancers that occur in the digestive system are due to a diet high in meat and animal by-products.
"Biologically" animals are supposed to eat meat. Do we have sharp claws/jaws to kill our prey? Do we eat a raw carcass straight off the bone? Can our bodies handle raw meat?
To me, if we are *supposed* to eat meat, we'd have all the same bodily resources that animals do in order to accomplish that.

Nice try.

Answer 8

1. Livestock are only as abundant as they are because there is a demand for them. If enough people stopped eating animals to make a dent in the demand for meat, breeders would stop breeding as many animals as they do now. Most animals are now artificially inseminated. Mating naturally is impossible for many animals since they've been bred to be so large. Turkeys, chickens, cows, pigs... they don't mate. They're inseminated.
2. How is eating animals so natural? When we were gatherer-hunters we certainly didn't eat animals as often and in as much quantity as we do now. Now that we have the opportunity for so much more meat, we're getting cancer (cooked meat is carcinogenic), heart disease (cholesterol!), chronic obesity (don't tell me "big macs" are natural or good for our health). Now this may be an argument that could make people mistakenly believe I'm for the consumption of animals in moderation. This is not true. I hope for the eventual abolition of all animals bred for meat, simply because animals, all animals, should not suffer for us.
3. We are no longer part of the food chain. The food chain was us when we were incapable of making tools, of breeding animals, of growing our own food. The food chain is not one of thousands of hens trapped in metal cages, being forced to produce an egg a day until she dies of exhaustion and is turned into campbell's chicken soup. The food chain is not a foi gras goose being held down and having a tube forced down her throat and food being pumped into her stomach until her liver explodes. The food chain is not human beings drowning in the excrement coming from dairy farms. Try to take down a cow with your bare teeth. That is the food chain.
4. If animals are so tasty, why do we disguise their taste with spices coming from plants? Sounds to me like you've just not had my cooking. ;)

Answer 9

Your logic is extremely flawed. A snake eats a mouse out of necessity and survival. As humans, we have the ability to constantly improve our way of life and thinking. We are lucky enough to be able to make moral choices. And if you were concerned with living a "natural" way of life, you would be out in the wild hunting animals yourself. How "natural" is it to have them raised and kept in 10 sq ft living spaces? Nothing about society is "natural" anymore. Computers, cell phones, etc, yet when the topic of food is brought up, meat eaters suddenly become concerned with living naturally. Ridiculous.

Answer 10

The world is already overpopulated with people, so maybe cannibalism is the way to go.

Save the world! Eat a human!

Answer 11

Keep ur opinions to yourself!! Its offending to me becuz i am a vegetarian and why do u care if i am?? You can eat meat no ones is stopping u but dont critize others who dont want to!! I think its cruel to eat animals...i mean its not like u would eat a dog even if they got overpopulated!!