James 2:14, 18-26 "14 What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him?18 Nevertheless, a certain one will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith apart from the works, and I shall show you my faith by my works.” 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. 20 But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith apart from works is inactive? 21 Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he had offered up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 You behold that [his] faith worked along with his works and by [his] works [his] faith was perfected, 23 and the scripture was fulfilled which says: “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness,” and he came to be called "Jehovah’s friend". 24 YOU see that a man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone. 25 In the same manner was not also Ra′hab the harlot declared righteous by works, after she had received the messengers hospitably and sent them out by another way? 26 Indeed, as the body without spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead." (Faith alone doesn't get it done! James couldn't have been more plain than this!)
Jude 5 "“I desire to remind you, though you were once for all fully informed, that he who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” (Just as some who actually witnessed such miracles as the parting of the Red Sea were later put to death, so Jude is reminding Christians of his day not to fall into disobedience or suffer a similar fate!)
Matthew 24:13 "“He who endures to the end will be saved.” (To the end, not from the moment they put faith in Christ).
Phillipians 2:12 "“As you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” (Paul wrote this to the "holy ones" and "servants of Christ", not to people who were not "saved" yet. Thus, salvation was a constant effort. See Phillipians 1:1)
Hebrews 10:26, 27 ": “If we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire which will consume the adversaries.” (Plainly stated!)
Hebrews 6:4-8 "For it is impossible as regards those who have once for all been enlightened, and who have tasted the heavenly free gift, and who have become partakers of holy spirit, 5 and who have tasted the fine word of God and powers of the coming system of things, 6 but who have fallen away, to revive them again to repentance, because they impale the Son of God afresh for themselves and expose him to public shame. 7 For example, the ground that drinks in the rain which often comes upon it, and that then brings forth vegetation suitable to those for whom it is also cultivated, receives in return a blessing from God. 8 But if it produces thorns and thistles, it is rejected and is near to being cursed; and it ends up with being burned."
Hebrews 5:9 "He (Jesus) became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him." (Notice that obedience is required for salvation)
These scriptures show clearly that salvation is a gift that can be thrown away, just like a pair of ugly socks! The good news is that in most cases, you can turn around and get those socks back out of the trash should you change your mind! Salvation is always there for you, but having it at one time doesn't mean you forever retain it. You can lose and yet still regain possession of it. It's all up to you!
2007-07-28 21:18:29
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answered by Anonymous
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I'll find the text. Be right back.
Listen, I found it, but it's four pages. I'd rather not bog down this site.
Write me at leaving@thelastrump.com and I'd be happy to send it to you as an attachment.
The bottom line is that most people don't understand that the Greek word for "salvation" means restoration. What your friend is really asking about is redemption.
You see, you are redeemed when you accept Jesus' sacrifice for your sins, and from that point you undergo a process of salvation in which you are restored to what Adam lost. One by one your sins are dealt with as you "work out your own salvation". But a time of sin may set you back. You've "lost" the progress you'd made, but you haven't lost your redemption.
There does, however exist a situation whereby you can "defect from the faith". This is what is addressed in the discussion I'd like to send you. It's not a cut and dried answer that can be handled in a short paragraph or two.
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2007-07-25 15:02:34
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes, you can turn your back on God even if you are saved. There is no once saved always saved in the bible. Salvation is an on going process, not a one time thing saying that you believe in Jesus.
"As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5–8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:8, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9–10, 1 Cor. 3:12–15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11–13)."
2007-07-25 15:04:49
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answered by tebone0315 7
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I'm not a minister yet but i am going to school for it and i do have quite a bit of knowledge in the area...
this is typically a question asked by people who want to go out and sin with the assurance of avoiding punishment for it... i can tell you that as long as you are living in Christ and following His will there is complete security... outside of that... all bets are off... if you want a more in depth look at it shoot me an e-mail
2007-07-25 15:08:41
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answered by Andre 4
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I'm no minister but I'm a teacher of the Bible. I'll provide Scripture that'll answer your question.
For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. Eph. 2:8-9
For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. Rom. 11:29
The Bible says salvation is a gift of God and according to Romans 11:29, salvation is irrevocable.
God can't lie. Titus 1:2
2007-07-25 15:34:46
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answered by Anonymous
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I believe that once a person exercises saving faith in Jesus Christ, he or she is forever in the family of God. God never kicks anyone our of his forever family. A number of Scripture passages support this view. For example, in 1 Corinthians 12:13 we are told that at the moment of salvation the Holy Spirit places us in the body of Christ. Once we are infused into the body of Christ, we are never excised from the body. In fact, Ephesians 1:12 and 4:30 indicate that at the moment of believing in Jesus Christ for salvation, we are permanently "sealed" by the Holy Spirit. At that point, we are God's everlasting property. That seal guarantees that we'll make it to heaven.
Moreover, we read in John 10:28-30 that it is the Father's purpose to keep us secure despite anything that might happen once we have trusted in Christ. Nothing can snatch us out of His hands. God's plans cannot be thwarted (Isaiah 14:24). Further, Romans 8:29-30 portrays an unbroken chain that spans from the predestination of believers to their glorification in heaven.
Another fact we need to keep in mind is that Christ regularly prays for each Christian (Hewbews 7:25). With Jesus interceding for us, we are sucure. (His prayers are always answered!)
Of course, the fact that a believer is secure in his salvation does not mean he is free to sin. If the Christian sins and remains in that sin, Scripture says that God will discipline him or her just as a father disciplines his children (see Hebrews 12:7-11).
Source(s):
The Complete Book of Bible Answers by Ron Rhodes
2007-07-25 15:32:50
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answered by Freedom 7
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If you renounce your Faith AND rise against Him you may have blasphemed the Holy Spirit.
From Tektonics.org:
For anyone who is scared of this Scripture: "It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace" (Hebrews 6:4-6), the word for fall away in Greek is "parapipto" which means apostasy or renunciation of ones faith. This doesn't mean backsliding. It also doesn't mean "I HATE YOU GOD, I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU!" and then coming back to faith with Him within a year or two. It means that after renouncing their faith, their hearts became so hardened and set against the Gospel, they simply CANNOT be restored to repentance! God has died for their sins, and they once believed and knew God personally, walked with Him and everything, and then decided to go against Him, just like Satan and the fallen angels! They can't repent! It's too late for them! Jesus only died once for people's sins! He can't go back and die again for those of whom committed the ultimate blasphemy of the Holy Ghost--unrepentant hardness of heart and leaving Him and rising against Him--that would be disgraceful to God!
2007-07-25 15:20:31
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answered by G 4
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I am not a pastor, but I am certain that the Bible, based on knowing the nature of God, teaches that you cannot lose your salvation. If God changed His mind, He would be contradicting His nature.
Christians will backslide to one degree or another, but we know we will be forgiven and restored to closer fellowship.
2007-07-25 15:09:46
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answered by Bob T 6
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Yes you can loose if you sin against the Holy spirit also if you sin ans show no repentance, from the first there is nothing can be done but from the second yes you still have chances.
2007-07-25 16:12:42
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answered by Anonymous
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2 Timothy2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
(KJV)
Romans8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
(KJV)
Romans8:38-39 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
(KJV)
Those pretty much prove that there is nothing that can take your salvation away.
2007-07-25 15:05:10
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answered by Mulereiner 7
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