So you Christians who say that the new testament laws replace the Old?

Question

Are you really telling me that the New Testament voids the Old Testament laws?

Why even have the Old Testament in the Bible then?

Answer 1

Because they follow Marcionism, not Jesus.

Answer 2

As at least two other answers have mentioned, there is a New Testament and an Old Testament (or, better: a New Covenant and an Old Covenant).

What no one mentioned is that the Old Covenant, the one God made with the Jews, is an everlasting covenant. The new covenant, the one Jesus made with the world, is a better (according to Paul), but this does not *negate* the old.

I am glad that, as a Gentile, I do not have to follow the whole Law of Moses. But that does not mean that the Law of Moses has no value!

Also, to answer your final question, realize that the Law of Moses only takes up a small part of the OT, and it is thoroughly mixed in with portions of the OT that do not recite specific laws. In other words, you could not remove the Law from the OT without severely damaging the OT, and you could not remove the OT from the bible without severely reducing our knowledge of how God has created, and then been involved with the world from the time of creation until the time of Jesus. Finally, many of the prophecies that were fulfilled in Jesus himself would be lacking if the OT were not there to prove that these prophecies had been made centuries before Jesus' birth.

Conclusion: the OT is an integral part of Christianity, even for those who (mistakenly) believe that the Law of Moses no longer has any value.

Jim, http://www.jimpettis.com/wheel/

Answer 3

I am a Christian, but I don't believe that the NT overrides the OT. In fact, they complement each other. Jesus said "I have come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it." Some people seem to think that "fulfill" means "to destroy" or "do away with". How they come up with such a ridiculous conclusion I'll never know. To "fulfill" means to "make (come) true". Jesus fulfilled over 250 OT prophecies concerning His First Coming, and He fulfilled the Law by dying on the cross. In fact, if God's Law could have been changed or abolished, there would have been no need for Christ to die on the cross! The Law is like a mirror; it shows us what "sin" is and identifies it in us. Sin on us is like dirt on our face, and the mirror shows it to us. The mirror cannot clean the dirt off our face. The blood of Christ is the washcloth that cleans our faces of the dirt of sin. Christ died on the cross BECAUSE God's Law, which is a reflection of His character, CANNOT be changed or abolished!
This is why I (try to) keep all 10 of God's Commandments, including the 7th-day Sabbath, established at Creation and blessed and sanctified for all eternity - thousands of years before any Jew showed up.

Answer 4

Jesus said he didn’t come to destroy the law, but to fulfill it. (Matt 5:17) The effect was the same. Once fulfilled it was no longer in effect.

The very next verse, Matthew 5:18, LOOKS FORWARD to the time when the law WOULD BE SET ASIDE. "...Not even the smallest stroke of a pen will disappear from the Law UNTIL EVERYTHING IS COMPLETED." This “UNTIL” clause REINFORCES THE TEMPORARY NATURE OF THE LAW. It ONLY makes sense when we understand that it was intended FROM THE BEGINNING to be SET ASIDE.

On the cross, Jesus' last recorded saying, "It is finished," is an important milestone. Because of Jesus life, Satan had been defeated. The law was finished and would no longer stand between God and mankind.

Ephesians 2:15 Through his body on the cross, Christ put an END to the LAW WITH ALL ITS COMMANDS AND RULES. He wanted to create one new group of people out of the two. He wanted to make peace between them.

Colossians 2:14 He wiped out the written Law with its rules. The Law was against us. It opposed us. He took it away and nailed it to the cross.

Galatians 2:16 ...No one can be made right with God by obeying the law.

Galatians 2:21 ...What if a person could become right with God by obeying the law? Then Christ died for nothing!

Romans 3:20 So it can’t be said that anyone will be made right with God by obeying the law. Not at all! The law makes us more aware of our sin. 21 But now God has shown us how to become right with him. The Law and the Prophets give witness to this. It has nothing to do with obeying the law.

Galatians 5:4 Some of you are trying to be made right with God by obeying the law. You have been separated from Christ. You have fallen away from God’s grace... The ONLY verse that talks about falling from grace, and they did it by trying to follow the law!

The 10 commandments along with the rest of the law ("commands and rules" from Ephesians 2:15) were "set aside" when they were fulfilled or completed at Jesus' resurrection. We are no longer bound by that law.

BUT THIS DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE WORTHLESS OR MEANINGLESS !

Romans 15:4 Everything that was written in the past was written to teach us. The Scriptures give us strength to go on. They cheer us up and give us hope.

Answer 5

As Christians we should be able to hear God when He speaks to us, if a Christian can't hear God then they are at trouble in the very heart of there relationship with Jesus Christ, as you probably do not believe a word I am saying, I will state that you are the one who asked the question and I have no way of knowing where your heart truly lay, We have should be able to judge what is right from wrong, basically your heart and conscience should tell you if you are doing what is right I believe that if you really think in your heart you are doing something wrong, than it is wrong, if you don't though, it could still be wrong according to the bible, it shouldnt really matter to anyone who refuses to believe in what the bible says, if you do believe what it says, and accepted God into your life, and are following after him in a true relationship with Christ, then God should give you guidance in your heart on the right from wrong.
I hope I answered your question, sorry if you took this the wrong way, as many answers on this site are.
ttyl, much love, God bless,
~~Brittany

Answer 6

There are going to be a lot of people quoting Saul/Paul and a particular line the Jesus said, that being:

Matthew 5:17-18 Think not that I am come to destroy the law,
or the prophets: I am not come to destroy,
but to fulfill.
18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law,
till all be fulfilled.


Since the prophecies have to do with an Earthly King of Israel, world peace and a few other things that have not happened, one could say that the old laws are still in force if one is to go by what Jesus said.

Answer 7

The New Testament is a "new covenant" God makes with His people. That covenant or contract is the choice He gives us to accept His son whom He sacrificed. The New Testament fullfills the Old Testament, it doesn't negate it. It is evidence that God loves us so much that despite wanting us to follow a moral life, he allows us to enjoy the Kingdom of Heaven anyway.

Answer 8

Christians believe that Old Testament Mosaic law was fulfilled by Christ's sacrifice at calvalry. Old Testament laws have been replaced by Christ's moral teachings and revelations to his followers about how they should live.

Answer 9

gong.

Think not that I AM come to Destroy the LAW or the Prophets...but to fulfill.not one jot shall pass from the LAW til all be fulfilled, murderers are in danger of THE judgment.

matthew 5:17-21.
all isn't fulfilled yet. so it's still in place. no murder, rape, stealing etc....
the law never left. notice Jesus gave us 2 commadments that in essence covered all 10 commandments.
the STATUTES of the laws given to the tribes of Israel is another issue.

Answer 10

The Teachings of Jesus The Christ in The New Testiment do not "void" the "laws' of The Old Testiment. However. those laws given specificaly to and for The Nation of Israel(the Jews) are no longer required acts in substitution for Salvation by Grace through The Blood of Christ.
The "laws" given specificaly to and for the Jews do not apply to The Chruch.

before Christ, one had to be, or become, a Jew inorder to seek Salvation... Now Salvation is a free gift to all who come To God as he prescribs...and by doing so become part of The Chruch.

In any case you need not be concerned for any of that, as it dose not apply to you any way... Unless of course you happen to be a Jew... you clearly are not of The Church... so none of the "laws" or teachings of The Bible are of any importance to you and do not apply to you and you are under no obligation to follow any of them any way... in other words... don't worry about it.

It is none of your business

Answer 11

No we are not saying that the Old testament is void.
Just alot of the Mosaic Laws from that era.