Jesus said his church would be one. Most of these groups have appeared over the last 300 years.
Could this all be an example of "many will come in my name"
Given that none of these groups have the true faith can they be saved because a lot of them are very genuine people. They have just been led astray through personal interprtation of the bible (which is a sin).
2007-07-25
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It is astonishing that these groups all think they have the truth.
No one could say this is what Jesus wants when he said the one chuch.
They try to whitewash this by saying the church worldwde is the body but their own bible says thats false.
They indeed worship the bible, they say, where in the bible does it say that. When you show them they tell you it is out of context.
Who sets the context, it cant be them (hence 37k denominations) so who is it, their pastor, they often claim the Holy Spirit.
Again would the holy spirit create so much division, no way.
There is one true chruch that Jesus started and gave traditions to. He then let them build the bible in light of those traditions. The catholic church has existed for over 2000 years since founded by Christ.
Because all the protestants have is the bible, they get completly lost in their own delusions.
they are truely the blind leading the blind
2007-07-25
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Yes, they are.
The only churches coming out of the Reformation that still give due respect to the historic Christian faith are the Lutheran and Anglican churches in their conservative forms, which is why we tend to be highly uncomfortable with the "Protestant" label these days. Any Protestant churches who deny their Catholic roots and invent some other justification for their existence are indeed deluded.
2007-07-25 07:48:04
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answered by Anonymous Lutheran 6
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For the ones that said private interpretation of the bible is allowed. I beg to differ
Acts 8:30-31; Heb. 5:12 - these verses show that we need help in interpreting the Scriptures. We cannot interpret them infallibly on our own. We need divinely appointed leadership within the Church to teach us.
Acts 8: 30Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. "Do you understand what you are reading?" Philip asked.
31"How can I," he said, "unless someone explains it to me?" So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.
Hebrews 5:12In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over again. You need milk, not solid food!
2007-07-25 11:43:20
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answered by tebone0315 7
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I think religion what denominations do in the long run are good. For example the Methodists help out largely in 3rd world countries and the Menonites help mainly in local communities... To say one denomination is better than another is not what God intended but I do think different denominations should work harder together because they are all Christians (The Catholic Church included)
2007-07-25 07:34:41
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answered by marleysnp 1
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The Protestant Reformers invented doctrines like Sola Scriptura, Faith alone, once saved always saved. Protestantism is an ocean of confusion.
2007-07-25 20:37:05
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answered by hossteacher 3
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No, they aren't deluded, but....
I'd be interested in knowing who told you that personal interpretation of the bible is a sin. All interpretations of the bible are personal. Heck, even the translations of the bible are personal.
But anyway, Jesus's church IS one. You don't have to all go to the same building and use the same words to talk about Him or all do the same things to worship Him to be unified in the Holy Spirit. That's a big lie fundamenatlists made up to get you to go to their church only and give them your money.
His Church is not a denomination. It is all the believers as the Mystical Body with Jesus himself as the head. That is one, though made up of many parts. See 1 Corinthians 12 - 15
2007-07-25 07:32:25
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answered by Acorn 7
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Your are incorrect on the subject of the Orthodox. There are distinctive Orthodox church homes yet maximum are united in the experience that they share undemanding doctrines and recognize one yet another's validity. that's an especially comparable difficulty to the countless church homes interior Catholicism (Roman, Maronite, Ruthenian, Chaldean, Melkite, etc). that's frequently in Protestantism which you come across many church homes separated with the help of substantial doctrinal variations.
2016-10-09 09:01:15
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No...but they have done something to Jesus' desire that all may be one.
Personal interpretation IS wrong (maybe not sinful....but pride) -- because it is EXACTLY how Protestantism came to have more than 30,000 denominations.
"Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation...." (2 PET 1: 20)
2007-07-25 07:40:04
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answered by The Carmelite 6
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Good points. It is ridiculous to think that Jesus wanted this for his Church. This multiplication of sects is aspiration, not inspiration. How can we have one Lord, one Faith and one Baptism like this? One Christ returns, he will have one Church and all will have to bow to him and recognize him as King and be governed by his Kingdom.
2007-07-25 07:29:45
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answered by Anonymous
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define "one". Jesus did not set up the catholic church. when he died and left Christians were alot like what the Protestants are now. diverse loosely communicating with each other and relative to the population as a whole small. yet they got along because they were allowed to disagree.
every one being force under the same governing church division is natural.
2007-07-25 07:32:46
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answered by born_on_earth_day 4
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The Catholic church worships a Jesus that still hangs on a cross instead of a risen Lord.
The Catholic church has historically done nothing after alter boys were raped in their church by their priest as if rape was a priestly function and part of the vow of celibacy. Nothing was done for the victims. There is an apparent double standard between what is acceptable for clergy to do and what non-clergy do. Think about the implications of asking one of these rapists / priests to pray for you?
When the Catholic church ruled Europe, the time was know as the "dark ages."
The Catholic church worships and prays to many graven images in the likenesses of many men and women....one being Jesus but none likened to the Father and Holy Spirit. Why? Is it better to pray to an intercessor and get into heaven that by their relationship with God than to BE THE SAINT and stand before God and have your prayers answered directly?
The Catholic church believes the wafer and wine actually turn into the body and blood of Jesus.
Is there any wonder that so many would not call these practices "Christ like" and would seek to worship in a structure that believed,
17" 'In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy."
But then, leave it to the Pope to adapt to pagen cultures and take the hard line against those who agree with everything except that the Pope's word is above the Bible. One really needs to study the history of the Catholic church to know how bizarre that is.
EDIT: hossteacher will have a difficult time proving his case since the manuscripts we translate the Bible from are available for your translating today. Sola Scriptura, Faith alone, is different from "once saved always saved" and the passage Martin was was reading is still found int the Catholic Bible in Romans. You don't need to be helplessly dependent on the priest to know what the Bible says. Tell me, why did the populatity of these confused ones help break the habit of mass being done only in Latin instead of the language of the people if 1900 years of previous popes were right? God does not change.
To those giving the thumbs down, what have I pointed out that isn't true? Is something only true when you agree with it or is truth something you can back away from because you are greater than truth? What is the Catholic Church doing to make it more inviting to those who say they believe in Jesus but don't worship Him in the Catholic church and who the pope compassionately calls "illegitimate"?
2007-07-25 08:01:40
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