Jews ,Unitarian Christians and Muslims ;how can they possibly be wrong for not believing in trinity?

Question

Well all muslims respect Jesus(peace be upon him) but we dont believe him to be God it is not insult to Jesus even Jehovah witness also dont believe in trinity nor do jews.Christians should not set standards for other religions.No where in the Bible the word Trinity is mentioned.Peace & blessings.

God dont make up lies.I have read Koran two or three times no where we are told to kill ?There are verses in Quran but they deal with pagan Arabs who were in war with Muslims.The word Kufar has been used for pagan Arabs but the word used for Jews and Muslims is Ahley Kitaab.How would Christian feel when I say Bible promotes Homosexuallity?I know that is not a true statement and we should not make such statements.

We have seen throughout history many examples of terrorists and terrorism, for instance, the Crusades, the Inquisition, the New England Witch Hunts, Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, the IRA, the Ku Klux Klan, Timothy McVeigh, David Korresh and Milosovich, just to name a few.

If we were to follow that analogy, and considering that, with the exception of Lenin, Stalin and Pol Pot, all the above mentioned individuals and groups were Christian or from a Christian background, is it right to blame all Christians and the religion of Christianity for the crimes committed by these terrorists? And considering that the fathers of communism were all Jewish or of a Jewish background, would it be proper and fair to blame all Jews and the religion of Judaism for the evils of communism? No, it is not right and just the same, to blame all Muslims and the religion of Islam for the crimes committed by terrorists is equally wrong.

Sniper;Koran says not to kill, but *ahem* "suicide bombers" *ahem.*
I have answered that question.Now your comments on other religions.Budhist are peaceful and loving people more than Christians.The Hindu god Krishna is same as Jesus you have no right to descriminate them.As far as Christainity is concerned not all Christians believe in trinity.I can put dozen of verses from the Bible that refutes trinity.Those Christians who like to quote verses of trinity even in those verses Jesus,Father and Holyspirit are distinct.Where did Jesus said that he want to start a new religion , he was a Jew and you can ask from any Jew they dont believe in trinity.Peace and Blessings

God you have added a lot of words in Koran word.You have also quoted verses not only out of context but also wrongly.Instead of copying from some anti-islamic site it was better for you to read it by yourself.I know the site from where you have copied these verses.

Allah(swt) says in The Holy Qur'an;


“Permission to fight is given to those on whom war is made, because they are oppressed. And surely Allah is able to assist them; those who are driven from their homes without a just cause except that they say, ‘Our Lord is Allah’.”

Surah Al-Hajj:39-40


Allah(swt) also says;


“And strive hard for Allah with due striving.” Surah Al-Hajj:78


No rational thinking person can find fault in these Words of Almighty God. It is the duty of all of us to fight for what is right and just. However, it is important that we do not transgress the bounds as Ordained by Allah(swt);


“And fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you but be not aggressive. Surely, Allah loves not the aggressors.” Surah Al-Baqarah:190


What we are Commanded by Allah(swt) is to fight only those who fight you. This is not terrorism, this is self defense. Who can argue with this? In self defense, there are also guidelines to follow.

As Muslims, we are forbidden to even take our own lives. Allah(swt) tells us;
“And kill not yourselves. Surely Allah is ever Merciful to you.” Surah Al-Nisa:29



In light of these passages from The Holy Qur'an, one can easily see that terrorists are acting outside the True Teachings of Islam. These suicide bombers are acting outside the Deen of Allah(swt).

The only proof text those who oppose Islam have, and I do mean the Christian Evangelists, is a passage of The Holy Qur'an taken completely out of context. It reads as follows;


“...slay the idolaters, wherever you find them...” Surah Al-Tauba:5


The above passage in question deals purely with the defensive battles Prophet Muhammad(saas) and his companions(ra) had to deal with in the face of the Quraysh tyranny.




d) Psalms 137:9 (Blessed are the baby killers)

e) Matthew 10:34 (Jesus came to "Bring a sword, not peace")

f) Luke 12:53 (Jesus says he came to "Bring fire, not peace")

g) Luke 19:27 (Jesus says in a parable, "All those who did not want me to rule over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence)

h) Luke 22:36 (Jesus tells his followers to "Purchase Swords")

i) John 2:15 (Jesus attacks people with a whip in the Temple

If we were to follow the same criteria as the Christian Evangelists do, as pertaining to certain passages of The Holy Qur'an, we can also do the same with the Bible and claim that all crimes against humanity committed by those who profess the Christian faith were acting in accordance with the teachings of their faith. However, it would be wrong to do so as we would be lowering ourselves to the level of these liars. As Muslims, we must set a better example than that.

Answer 1

Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians; they teach that Christ was and is divine and of the same nature as God.

Jehovah's Witnesses teach that no salvation occurs without Christ, that accepting Christ's sacrifice is a requirement for true worship, that every prayer must acknowledge Christ, that Christ is the King of God's Kingdom, that Christ is the head of the Christian congregation, that Christ is immortal and above every creature, even that Christ was the 'master worker' in creating the universe!

Jehovah's Witnesses love and respect and honor Christ. However, Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the Scriptures quite plainly demonstrate that Jesus and the Almighty are separate distinct persons, and the Almighty created Jesus as His firstborn son.

(Colossians 1:15) the firstborn of all creation

(Mark 10:18) Jesus said to him: 'Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.

(Revelation 3:14) the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God

(Philippians 2:5-6) Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God's form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God

(John 8:42) Neither have I come of my own initiative at all, but that One sent me forth

(John 12:49) I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak

(John 14:28) I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am

(1 Corinthians 15:28) But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him

(Matthew 20:23) this sitting down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father

(1 Corinthians 11:3) I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; ...in turn the head of the Christ is God

(John 20:17) I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.

(Deuteronomy 6:4) Jehovah our God is one Jehovah

(1 Corinthians 8:4-6) There is no God but one. For even though there are those who are called "gods," whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many "gods" and many "lords," there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him

Thanks again for an opportunity to share what the bible actually says about the distinct persons of Jesus Christ the Son and Jehovah God the Father!

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Answer 2

While it is true that Muslims and Jews do not believe in the Trinity, the Muslim religion also worships an different God than both Christian and Jews. They worship the God of the Koran, while Christian and Jews worship the God of the Bible. Islam only came into being in 622AD by a man named Mohammed. Islam did not originate from Abraham, Ishmael was the father of the Arabs, not the Muslims. Not all Arabs are Muslims. A person cannot be a Christian if he or she does not believe the Trinity. They can say they are Christian, but it goes against the Word of God. Just because the word Trinity is not in the Bible, does not mean anything regarding it's reality. There are too many Scriptures to verify it and it was obvious to the disciples that they did not even mention it. The word Trinity does not cancel the reality of the Trinity. Why do not the Jews worship Jesus if He is God? The reject the notion that their Messiah would come as a lowly being and die. They do not reject God, but Jesus the Human Being who came from the essence of God.

Answer 3

yeah yor right there is no word "trinity"

however, there are the words: "Father" "Son" and the "Holy ghost"

I cant find a reason why people dont think Jesus is God. I think if God is all powerful and all knowing, he has the ability to perform such a tiny task as turning into a human (of course still with his all-powerful mind) and walking and preaching on Earth. And then turning back into God. Right? He is GOD after all... And if God loves his creation so much, then he definitely would do something to save it.

Why should Christians set standards for other religions? It's because they dont. They dont like any other religions (including Muslim, sorry) because this religion is the one true religion, and the other religions are all wrong. Proof: they contradict themselves - every single one but Christianity. Koran says not to kill, but *ahem* "suicide bombers" *ahem.*

Buddhists think that living a simple and good life will get them enlightened. Problem is, NO HUMAN can ever live a perfect and good life. Plus, when in the world are u supposed to know when yur enlightened or something? Who wants to sit under a stupid tree, go "HMMMMMMMM..." all day long, and bow to a wastefully carved rock resembling a curly-haired person with ears like hotdogs that cant do anything but fall over and shatter and explode?

Confucionism or whatever is not a religion - its a philosophic idea.

Hinduism has multiple gods, and if you realize something, polytheism is a myth in the past, like what the Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans used to worship. Before they collapsed.

some time ago a Christian woman got arrested for preaching on a street. In Connecticut, a teen was convicted in court for holding up a sign with the word "Jesus" on it. TV's and Media all over are trying to black out Christianity and trying to replace it with violence and sex and drugs. You dont see many Christian movies today - even "Ten Commandments" is tainted all over with women and false things.

All this just points to one thing: Christianity is being blacked out by catholics, buddhists, hindus, etc., the media, TV, etc., because its the only true religion. Evil is trying to supress Christianity and make pagans bigger. and they dont set standards for other religions - just denounce them as false.

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Answer 4

You hit the nail on the head.

The concept of a so-called trinity did not enter the "Christian" doctrine until it was introduced by Constantine (a non-Christian) at the council of Nicea. The trinity concept was common in ancient pagan religions, and it was thought that this would help the Roman world accept Christianity as the new "official" religion of the empire. The early Christians did not believe in it, and independent writings confirm this. And you are correct...it is not found in the Bible as it was originally written.

Answer 5

The Bible might not use the word Trinity but if you study Jesus's words to His followers (Matt 28:19) you will see He speaks of the Father Son and the Holy Ghost There are many other teachings to study go to the Word of God , pray and He will show you the truth When we ask for the truth He will lead us to it

Answer 6

In their perspective it is wrong. They deviated from the true teachings of Prophet Abraham and would like others to deviate too. By believing in Trinity is ascribing partners to God, which is against the concept of one God.

Answer 7

I think that it is just one way of looking at things, just as a parent has a unique relationship with each of his children does not mean he favors one over the other.
Jesus, when someone called him "good teacher" said "don't call me good. Only God is all good." He never said he was God. If you lived in a society where people thought in order to please God you had to sacrifice animals, etc., but YOU KNEW the spiritual path to God, wouldn't you tell those you taught to "follow my way"? I don't think Jesus was saying believe in me( as in he is God), but believe in my knowledge of the way, the path.

Answer 8

It's simple people are either wrong or right about anything so whats the big deal. You have beliefs they have beliefs.
Kisses Betty B.

Answer 9

In the Bible these names are not mentioned:

"Muhammad"
"Allah"
"Disciple"
"Trinity"

Thats because the first two are Arabic, the last two are Latin.

Answer 10

They are not wrong. You're correct. The word "Trinity" is not found in the bible.