None of Joseph Smith's prophesies have come to past. Why?

Question

How do Mormons explain none of Joseph Smith's prophesies coming true? Could it be that he is a false prophet?

The last 2 questions, prior to this one, I have asked has very damning evidence against the "One True Prophet". I wonder why I'm not getting any answers from Mormons.

Answer 1

The 'civil war prediction is about the only thing mormons are able to pull pout of their collective schincter. They fail to mention:

“Although transcribed in 1832, this prophecy [Civil War] did not appear in any LDS publication until 1851 (in the Pearl of Great Price), and then again in 1854 (in The Seer). On both occasions, however, it was not considered holy scripture, as it is today. Only after the Civil War, when republished in the 1876 edition Doctrine and Covenants, did the prediction receive scriptural status.”

1. Four weeks before this prophecy, on November 24, 1832, a tariff nullification ordinance was passed in South Carolina. This ordinance dismissed “certain acts of the Congress of the United States” . In October 1832, U.S. President Andrew Jackson warned forts in S.C. that a confrontation with the state was possible.
2. The idea that a war would break out, starting in South Carolina, was common knowledge at this time. On December 21, 1832 the Painesville Telegraph (only 10 miles from Smith’s home) ran an article entitled “The Crisis,” which discussed the potential civil war. Also, the Morning Courier and New York Enquirer ran articles expressing concern about a possible war (these sources are cited frequently in Church publications at the time (i.e. The Evening and Morning Star).
3. Smith’s prophecy fails here due to his prediction that the civil war would bring war to “all nations.” This did not happen.
4. Although the southern states did ask Great Britain for help, Great Britain never got directly involved in the war, and Great Britain never called upon other countries “to defend themselves against other Nations.”
5. Although some slaves surely did rise up against their masters, this did not happen in large numbers. In fact “between 60,000 and 93,000 blacks served the Confederacy in some capacity” (see Williams, “Blacks Who Fought For the South,” Washington Times) during the war.
6. “The remnants” which were defined by Joseph smith as Native Americans (“Lamanites”) never did “vex the Gentiles with a sore vexation” because of the war.
7. Nations did not come to a “full end” due to the war, and there was no increase in famine, plague, earthquakes, or thunder and lightning.

Answer 2

First of all, some of them have come to pass.

Example would be the prophecy of the Civil War. He did not just say it would happen; he said where it would start.

Second, some of his prophecies have not come to pass for two reasons. One, because the people were changed in behavior and therefore "changed" what had been prophesied for. This is not an unheard of event throughout the scriptures. For instance, when Jonah prophesied that the people would be destroyed for their wickedness, they repented. And the prophesy of their destruction did not come true!

And two, because some of his prophecies are misunderstood.

For instance, some believe that the passages speaking about the Independence Temple are a prophecy. This is because the verses used the words "in this generation." But the word generation can mean more than a certain age-group of people. In the scriptures it can also refer to a dispensation.

Further more distinction is never made in the passages that it is a prophecy, and they can just as easily be a directive or commandment. And in fact, later verse in a later section confirm that it was a commandment and not a prophecy, as the Lord actually chides the Saints for not putting all their effort into building the temple, despite anti-mormon sentiments in the area.

There are also critics of the "moonmen" idea. There have been many explanations for this, which I have included in the source list below ... but one I have never seen is that we don't understand everything in our universe. So, honestly, who are we to say that it is not a possibility, which is still undiscovered to us in our mortal realm, like maybe another dimension?! Not only that, but in LDS doctrine, the different levels of heaven are referred to as the glory of the stars, moon, and sun!

Third, to my knowledge, he never said that blacks would always be slaves. And in fact, in his presidential campaign (which of course didn't work), he was for the emancipating of all slaves. So supporting a political platform that was contrary to prophecy seems a little idiotic to me.

And fourth, chronologically the book of Revelations in the bible was written before several of the other books, but placed at the end of the New Testament. Therefore, if one is to take the warning placed in Revelations about "adding to," to mean all scriptures, then all the books written chronologically after Revelations, but included in the New Testament, fall under the same rule and are false as well. And we would then have to apply this to similar warning scriptures found in the Old Testament (which would then completely invalidate the New Testament). But almost every Christian believes in the entire bible... Logically, we now have to assume that such warnings only apply to the individual books and/or to men who are not guided by and have not permission from God.

In closing, I would just like to advise, that blindly taking the word of non-members is not wise! In fact you shouldn't even simply take the word of members either! Don't blindly believe one or the other. Go out, use the gift of free agency you were given by God, do your own research, studying, comparing, praying, and most importantly decide for yourself!

Blindness can only bring you darkness. So open your eyes and do a little searching.

Answer 3

Brigham Young didn't have the gift of translation, nor the calling. He certainly had more important matters to worry about. I'm not aware of any statement from Brigham Young that would shed light on the question. Someday we expect the second part of the Book of Mormon to be translated and added to our standard works. Brigham Young did make many prophesies, and prophesy is alive and well in the modern church. He prophesied that the Mormon battalion wouldn't ever fight in a battle - except against wild animals. He was right - their only battle was against wild cattle that started charging without provocation. Every Stake has a Patriarch assigned the task of giving Patriarchal Blessings. Every member is allowed to receive one Patriarchal Blessing which includes prophecies of their life to come. Almost every prophecy in my own blessing has already occurred. It is truly remarkable. The Patriarch didn't know me from Adam, but he answered my prayers from the night before. These men are truly called of God.

Answer 4

Probably because they are too busy taking care of all their
children. So you are a Mormon? Our daughter joined during
her last highschool year. Just because they offered some
cool and fun programs for after school entertainment. She
stopped being a Mormon a few years later, after she found
her sponsoring family wasn't as friendly to her as before. She
thought they would become her family and she didn't want to
be with us anymore. She learned the hard way, who loved her.
And she also said she saw people outside the temple
smoking when they didn't think anyone saw them. So that
was another thing that made her see them for what they tend
to be.
The Mormon church is not recognized by the Christian
community, I'm sorry to say. I learned this quite by accident
in a Christian Book store, the first time. And since then, I
have read about the many cults that are out there. Joseph
Smith was hung for being a horse theif. Did you know that?
He and others who took his place felt it was fine to have as
many wives as a man wanted. To do his cooking and cleaning and having all his children. Many of the wives were
sisters to each other, and so many of the children looked like
one another. Now there is a law prohibiting plural marriages,
by Mormons or anyone else. There are alot of books you can
buy to read from good book stores on the origins of the
cults and of religions still practiced today. You will find out
the truth, of what is, when you do some research. I can see
you are a thinker, and don't just accept what you have been
told. So good for you. And keep on reading. You will learn
far more than from what people tell you to believe in this
life.

Answer 5

First, Joseph Smith had a LOT of prophecies come to pass. But, a lot of what people THINK are prophecies are not.

For instance, one of the most popular "false prophecies" is the David Patten section of the D&C. But that wasn't a PROPHECY, it was a COMMANDMENT.

Second, perhaps your questions were too...weird or something, for any LDS to waste our time with it.

Answer 6

"None of Joseph Smith's prophesies have come to past."
Everyone else has already had some cheap shot atcha so I'll just keep the ball rolling with this - the expression is 'have come to pass' not 'past' or even 'passed' but 'pass'. Get it?

None of Joseph Smith's prophesies have come to PASS. Why?
Cos he was just another scammer looking for the easy dollar cos he hated real work.

Answer 7

simple just like the bible the odd are not in favor of any prophesies

with enough time and a skewed view any prophesy will happen
see Nostradamus

Answer 8

Maybe because human beings are not capable of fortelling the distant future, including the bible writers. There are only self-fulfilling prophecies. Any one of us can create those: I can say thay I'll be sick tomorrow and then go make myself sick on purpose, thus fulfilling the prophecy! I should then declare myself a prophet after such a godly event!

Answer 9

I'll go check your questions right after this. But what do you want to hear, that we are weird people that believe in a cult, have false prophets and wear magic underwear and that we are brainwashed? There you got it!!!!!!!!!!

I love the way I was brainwashed, I'll never "open my eyes" lol, hahaha... sooooo fake!

Answer 10

shadowboxer, I've given you some very good answers before. It is clear that you are very biased and not really seeking answers.

Therefore, I don't see any point in wasting effort on an answer. I answer because I love people... but my love is wasted on you, because you don't want it.

Please point out the specific prophesies of JS that have failed, and I will then seek to share the answers you DESIRE.