Why, when we ex jehovahs Witnesses critisize the WBTS and point out it's false teachings do you respond as if you are being personally attacked?
2007-07-13
14:59:41
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Bill...I answered you weeks ago and if you can't go back and find it then that is your problem and not mine....If you doon't believe me I don't care either, that is also your problem...I just hope that my father is not an elder where your daughter is worshiping now.
2007-07-13
15:26:03 ·
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Bill...I answered you weeks ago and if you can't go back and find it then that is your problem and not mine....If you doon't believe me I don't care either, that is also your problem...I just hope that my father is not an elder where your daughter is worshiping now.
2007-07-13
15:28:43 ·
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I am a Baptist...I hear a lot about Baptists and how people do not agree with my faith...i never take it as a personal affront to my intilect or faith...I was wondering why the JW's...seem to take all criticism as a personal affront...it is the religion that I have issues with.....
As you can see below..there is a bit of hipocracy in how the JW's attack those who don't agree with the WBTS dogma...Some are just plain rude and one at is vicious...TRUE christian behavior (cripes)
2007-07-14
19:50:48 ·
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Line Dancer...Can you in fact READ?......Look down at Bills comments...If in fact I am telling the trith about My Father Being an Elder, and A rapist and sodomizer, Bills comments would be infact abusive, to me, and thus, in a way revictomizing me, (which I believe he is fully aware of and does not care)...Look at the venom in which he folows me around demanding that I owe ..him... an answer to his accusation that I am a liar.....
2007-07-15
05:09:04 ·
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So... y'all think we're lying.
You think we're all disfellowshipped.
You think we're evil.
We think you are misled.
Achtung went to great lengths in another question to explain how someone could "just fade away" without repercussions. When I explained my reasons for quitting to one sister, she acknowledged that I was right, but that I should go anyway. She even offered to make me up so that no one would recognize me and I could go back to the kingdom hall incognito. Apparently, it would rock your world to find out we're telling the truth. Rather than investigate what we're saying, you prefer to stay in your Borg-like existence.
2007-07-13 15:24:47
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answer #1
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answered by Suzanne 5
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Well, well well. The gang's all here. It is amazing how quickly JW haters and apostates can flock together to slam Jehovah's Witnesses whenever someone says negative things about us. What's the matter? Nothing good on TV to watch?
No matter how much mud you fling at us, we are a growing Christian organization world-wide, and we are reaching more and more people with the good news of God's Kingdom. So enjoy your little fun while you can. Honest-hearted people WILL learn the truth before it is too late. Matt. 24:14: "And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come."
Who's turn is it to ask the next negative question about us so you can all rush and answer that one? Lysdexic Princess, Suzanne, and Anna should form a club of Witness haters. I'm sure they will find some gulible people to recruit. If the WTBTS is so bad, who should we join? YOU?
"Jesus, Jesus, Jesus." Is that the answer? Thanks for clearing that up for me.
I would say more, but I think another question has been asked about us. So why don't you run along and spread some more hatred for the organization that gave you the truth? Maybe one day you can give the real reason why you have turned on your former brothers and sisters.
You say our remarks are rude and vicious? Show me how we fit that description? We don't talk about your mother or use profanity. We take pride in the way we defend ourselves. As it says at 1 Pet. 3:15: "...always ready to make a defense before everyone that demands of you a reason for the hope in you, but doing so together with a mild temper and deep respect."
Anna, you say my remarks contain bigoty and hatred? How? I am not attacking your beliefs. I have not passed judgment on the religious organization you are affliated with, even though I do not agree with it. I am merely defending mine. Can't you see that?
Mocking the trinity? You don't even know what the trinity is. I have shared with you on a number of occasions Catholic and Protestant research sources that admit that the trinity is not Bible-based, but you totally disregard it. To this day, you can't give me anything from the Bible that supports a triune God.
I never called you ignorant. I did tell you to get a life because you and other JW bashers seem to enjoy what you are doing in making negative comments about us. Why don't you "help" people in other religions like you are trying to "help" us?
2007-07-14 17:04:01
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answered by LineDancer 7
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They want to convince everyone that you are wrong about them and wrong about what you believe. This guy says we deserved what we got because we broke Jesus' laws but he never mentioned the people who weren't kicked out for being greedy, backstabbers. He didn't mention the ones who were discarded because their Bible beliefs didn't go along with those taught by the Jehovah's Witness.
Where does it say,"thou shall not smoke nor wear a beard"? Where does Jesus command people not to talk with disfellowshipped people? He sat with sinners of all sorts! He said, "whoever is without sin, cast the first stone."
It doesn't seem to me like the Jehovah's Witness care much what Jesus' commands were. Where in the Bible does it say," and when you do the memorial of Christ's death, make sure only certain people get to partake and tell the rest that they aren't chosen to be with God so they have to accept what they're given. Anyone says different and we don't agree with them and they choose to partake, look at them suspiciously."?
They think they have 'the truth' because they're the only ones smart enough and blessed enough to come up with this stuff but they don't even know how much alike all the other churches that they really are and how much they don't make sense. They spend so much time attacking all the 'false religions' and their leaders during their meetings and in the literature, they should expect to get a little heat in return.
2007-07-13 22:38:20
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answered by ? 6
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To answer your question simply, because when someone criticizes WBTS, they are in effect criticizing our family, and our God, Jehovah and his organization. Jesus taught us to pray for the sanctification of God's name...to bring honor to it. That is what we try to do. We, as a worldwide congregation, love each other and form an earth wide family, and so we do take it personally when any part of it is critisized or attacked. However, there are certainly more important things for us to be doing with our time than to be spending it defending false acusations. I think that it is more important to reach as many people as possible with the good news of God's Kingdom, and the blessings that it will bring to mankind than to worry about the criticism or ex-Witnesses, or anyone else for that matter. I am sorry that you left, but that is your decision and it is between you and God.
You mentioned that you point out false teachings, but obviously you don't point them out to the ones of us who know that we have the truth. I have not seen anything that you have pointed out that shows any of our beliefs to be false.
~wannaknow~
2007-07-15 09:52:08
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answered by wannaknow 5
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2006 in the United States saw over a million active Jehovah's Witness ministers and both Memorial and district convention attendance of nearly 2.5 million.
Among those numbers, just in the United States, how many express ... *ANY* ... REACTION ... WHATSOEVER ... to anti-Witness slander?
Ten?
Twelve?
The vast majority of Jehovah's Witnesses fully understand that no human reaction is necessary. And the few who do respond to anti-Witness vitriol do so for their own reasons.
(2 Chronicles 20:17) You will not need to fight in this instance. Take your position, stand still and see the salvation of Jehovah in your behalf
(1 Peter 3:1-2) They may be won without a word through the conduct... because of having been eyewitnesses of your chaste conduct together with deep respect.
(Lamentations 3:26) Good it is that one should wait, even silently, for the salvation of Jehovah.
Those who consistently defend Jehovah's Witnesses have become increasingly amazed at the peevish and flimsy nature of most anti-Witness criticism (see Matthew 23:24-25). Perhaps this questioner misinterprets as "defensiveness" what an answerer intends as incredulity or disgust at an unworthy question.
Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/20000622/
2007-07-15 02:05:51
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answered by achtung_heiss 7
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Sorry Lysdexic I have to ask a Q of a JW here....
THA you said "THE DOCTRINES ARE intact , whether EX-JW'S like them or not, the fact that some 6,000,000 people teach the same doctrines CLEARLY and are in agreement with the congregational arrangements (that are carried out imperfectly) SPELLS TRUTH!"
How can that spell truth when no one is allowed to disagree? No one is allowed to question the doctrines or suggest anything different. That's not truth. That's control. They are controlling 6 million people.
Now on the contrary, if dissidence and differing opinions were allowed and encouraged, and you still ended up all in unanimous agreement, well then THAT would spell truth... but, um, that's not what you have.
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LineDancer, did you happen to notice you have the biggest words of hate and bigotry and you are directing them at specific PEOPLE not beliefs? PLEASE tell me how any word that I wrote has anything to do with HATING anyone? Oh and to answer this question sweetheart "If the WTBTS is so bad, who should we join? YOU?" The simple and true answer is YOU NEED JESUS!!! JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS!!!! Who's hating who for who's name?
No organization can save you. Not one.
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Yes. Jesus saves. That's the gospel dear. Jesus is the answer.
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LineDancer, you are the #1 offender of mocking the Trinity, so no, I am unable to see you as not attacking my beliefs. Not only do you mock it, but in your misunderstanding of it, you also mock it incorrectly which inflicts confusion to some Trinitarians. In addition to attacking all Trinitarians' belief in the Trinity and calling my personal thought process "laughable", you are also guilty of singling me out personally as a "JW Hater" for disagreeing with theology.Additionally you are quoted as telling me to "get a life" and that you will not agree to get along with me although our theology is different. There is another question where you strongly implied that I am ignorant. How exactly does all of that translate into you simply defending your beliefs?
2007-07-13 22:33:47
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answered by ~♥Anna♥~ 5
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Poet and writer Mark Twain sez: "If a million people believe in a stupid thing for a hundred years,it's STILL a stupid thing".
Survey sez; that your risk of being inducted into a destructive cult are TWICE the statistical risk of contracting chicken pox.
Don't be-shanghaied to shangri-La.
Yes,the Watchtower's plagiarizing pirate ship was 'scuttled', before it ever left the docks. It was all the 'blind following the blind'.
All hands abandon ship!
Learn more from those who watch the Watchtower http://www.freeminds.org
2007-07-14 03:31:11
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answered by Anonymous
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When you attack the religion,you are inadvertently not only attacking those in the religion but most unforgivably you are attacking Jehovah God.And that is what gets our backs up.
2Peter 2:22:"The saying of the true proverb has happened to them:"The dog has returned to its own vomit,and the sow that was bathed to rolling in the mire".
2007-07-15 10:27:59
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answered by lillie 6
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Because they personal cultic beliefs are being threatened and they refuse to think about any negative aspect of their cult.
2007-07-16 13:39:24
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answered by Anonymous
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I read recently that the average length of stay in that cult was five years. Then people begin to wake up.
2007-07-13 22:08:38
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answered by Anonymous
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