Did the angel Gabriel tell Mary that she would give birth to God or to God's Son?

Question

Jerome K, "God" in 1 Tim. 3:16 is spurious. That false addition has been corrected in modern Bibles. It should read: "He (Jesus) was manifested in the flesh." 1 John 5:7 has also been corrected.

Anna, my question has nothnig to do with the trinity. According to the trinity, God is composed of 3 co-equal, co-eternal persons. Do you see the trinity in anything that Gabriel said to Mary about who she would give birth to?

Why don't you answer he question? Yes or No?

Anna, do some research on the trinity and you will find that it did not become "Christian" belief until over 300 years after the death of Jesus. The trinity has you so turned around that you can't see that Gabriel plainly told Mary that she would give birth to God's Son, not God himself. To you, Satan and the demons believed that Jesus was God even though they clearly identified him as being "the Son of God." Correcting your misunderstanding is not attacking you.

Anna, can you say "yes" or "no." Save your tirade for another question.

It is amazing how trinitarians are fighting this question and what the Bible says. A simple "yes" or "no" will suffice. Can you do that?

Jesusisking, why don't you put your bigotry aside and answer the question?

Jerome K, so Jesus is God and he's God's Son. Then that would make Jesus his own Father, right?

You show your prejudice for the NWT. How sad. Most, if not all, modern Bibles correctly say "he" rather than "God" at 1 Tim. 3:16. That is in harmony with John 3:17 where it says that God SENT his SON to earth, not himself. Why not read that in YOUR Bible.

BTW, answer the question. Yes or no.

Answer 1

According to the account at Luke 1:30-35, the angel told Mary: “Have no fear, Mary, for you have found favor with God; and, look! you will conceive in your womb and give birth to a son, and you are to call his name Jesus. This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High . . .” The angel went on to say that God would give him the throne of David his father.

Mary replied: “How is this to be, since I am having no intercourse with a man?” In answer the angel said to her: “Holy spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you. For that reason also what is born will be called holy, God’s Son.”

Clearly, Mary was told by the angel that she would miraculously give birth to God’s son. He would be “son” of the Most High God. God would give this “son” the throne of David. There is absolutely nothing in this scripture which could even reasonably be construed to mean that Mary was going to give birth to God Almighty. That Mary would, as a mother, be changing the diapers of God Almighty; that Mary would, as a mother, be breast-feeding God Almighty; that Mary would, as a mother, be disciplining, teaching, bathing, and spanking God Almighty. And yet, this is precisely what would happen if we are to believe that Jesus was God.

No, Mary gave birth to the son of God; not God the Son (a phrase which never appears in scripture anyway).

Hannah J Paul

Answer 2

I'm really curious. Do the JW's teach you to come onto Yahoo Answers every night and do your best to convince people that Jesus isn't God? Is that what they teach you in the seminars and sermons and all the other kinds of indoctrinations you are subjected to? I'm not being facetious, I'm really very curious. I've had more JW's come to my door in the past few years than ever, because there's a church right up the road and our neighborhood is targeted for the witnesses. When I tell these people, and all of them are extremely sweet and kind, that I believe that Jesus is God, and they will never be able to change my mind, they immediately steer clear of the comment and try to come up with a subject that I will agree with them on. I'm fairly certain that's so I'll become interested enough to come visit their church and "see the light" in so doing, but then I come onto this site and you're on here as often as possible trying to tell people that Jesus is in no way God, but simply His son. When it comes right down to it, the JW's truly believe that Jesus is Michael the archangel, no? Please help me understand your fierce drive to get people to doubt Christ is the one true God.

Answer 3

In Luke, chapter 1, beginning in verse 26 it says that, "The angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city in Galilee called Nazareth, to a virgin..." He said to her, "Greetings, favored one! The Lord is with you." He continues on with, "You will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name Him Jesus, He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David; and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and His kingdom will have no end.

Answer 4

To Jesus the Son of God

Answer 5

The simple truth is that St Paul was the first Christian and the first to give up Judaism. He was a well learned Greek with Roman citizenship. For him the Trinity was not a problem. The Greeks already believed in the Egyptian gods and their Trinity of:
• Atum (the Father)
• Horus (the Son)
• Ra (the Ghost).
The Trinity really is a Round Peg that St Paul hammered into a Square Hole. The result is neither an honest to God Trinity nor an honest to God Unity. We have what Christians rightly call a “mystery” beyond human comprehension -- ie is a pagan desire to turn Jesus into a god.

And Jesus warned against that:
Matthew 5:19 - Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
And God concurred. He warned the people about false prophets such as St Paul:
Deuteronomy 18:20 – But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death."

What Christian may want to ask is this:
1. Who was St Paul?
2. Who made him Apostle?
3. What right did Jesus have to appoint anyone when he himself had been sent by God?

God alone must have the right to send Moses, Jesus, or St Paul. But God did not send St Paul much less tell him what to teach.

St Paul was a self-appointed upstart who wanted his Greek Religion imposed on the Jews -- which they rejected and so he, in turn, rejected the teachings of Moses and put the blame of the SUPPOSED crucifixion of Jesus on the Jews.

St Paul therefore was the first self-hating Jew, the man responsible for BOTH Christianity with Jesus (not God) at its center and for Anti-Semitism.

And so it is your choice: Go the route of the Pagans for whom it is natural that God may have a wife and a Son. The Jews may have been the first monotheists for whom God was one and unique.

See if you can find:
a. who Lilith was
b. how Adam and Eve story came about
c. Who was Asherah and
d. What happened to her.

Also, see what John the Baptist had to say:
Matthew 11:3 -- And said unto him (to Jesus), Art thou he that should come (the Messiah), or do we look for another?

Why did John the Baptist send that question to Jesus? And did Jesus answer?

He sent that question because the Messiah was supposed to be someone like Moses -- someone who could at the VERY LEAST free him from prison.

No, Jesus left the town and John the Baptist was executed for standing up for the Scriptures.

And so the question John asked remains: Was Jesus the one or should they expect another (which is what the Jews are doing -- expecting another).

Also ponder this:
Mark 3:20-21 -- And He came home, and the crowd gathered again, to such an extent that they could not even eat a meal.
When His own people heard of this, they went out to take custody of Him; for they were saying, "He has lost His senses."

His own family (Mother, sisters, brothers) thought he was out of his mind? Good God!

Remember this:

Mark 12:28-30 -- One of the scribes came and heard them arguing, and recognizing that He had answered them well, asked Him, "What commandment is the foremost of all?"

Jesus answered, "The foremost is, 'HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD;

AND YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND, AND WITH ALL YOUR STRENGTH.'…

Not convinced?

Then remember this, Jesus referred to God as "My God" twice:

Matthew 27:46 -- About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”)

And again:

John 20:17 -- Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father (ie: I am not dead yet). Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DXCZFRsyl8
And: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYJ5QXg5zQY

Answer 6

God's son, if Jesus was going back to god as the niv mistranslates the greek in john 16; 28 he could not have been a human being, and mary could not of have borne the lineal descendant of David, he could not have been the messiah, Matthew 1; 1 for his identity as the blood desendant of King david and of abraham. you cannot be in existence before you begin to exist?, Gabriel announced to Mary, was to be known as the son of God. Read luke 1; 35.

Answer 7

God's Son! (Luke1:28-33)
29Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered what kind of greeting this might be. 30But the angel said to her, "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. 31You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. 32He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, 33and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end."
God also called Jesus his Son(Matthew3:16,17)
16As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him.
17And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."

Answer 8

Gods son~ dont know where this scripture is but "no one has seen the father" NO ONE WILL SEE GOD OR WE WOULD DIE OF SHEAR SHOCK! People SAW Jesus. Touched him. He is a man and Gods son not God himself. How is it that he does not know what the father knows or can do what the father and all things were given to him if he were God then he wouldnt need anything given to him he would have EVERYTHING

Answer 9

Jesus Christ is Jehovah's son. Jesus came to earth. no one has seen Jehovah God. people who know nothing about Jehovah will tell lies about us. it is also in the king james bible that Jesus came to earth. people keep saying we made up the bible, why because we put God's name in the places it belongs, instead of God or Lord, we have Jehovah. many on here will slander us. the ones who turned there back on Jehovah or got disfellowshipped. Jesus prayed to his Father in the heaven. he never said he was God. yes he said you seen me you seen the Father, he was with Jehovah for billions of years before coming to earth. when Jesus was baptized Jehovah came down like a dove and said this is my son the beloved. so they are not one and the same

Answer 10

Gabriel goes on to explain: "'This child will be great, and he will be called Son of the Most High God. Jehovah will make him king, as david was. But Jesus will be a king forever, and his Kingdom will never end!' "

God's Son.