what do you think about these...?

Question

...facts and myths?

Myth: illgeal immigrants do not pay taxes
Fact: illegal immigrants pay taxes through sales tax and the employer sending in some of their paycheck money to the IRS before handing it to the employee

M: illegals are taking jobs
F: employers are exploiting illegals and paying them dirt. its the employers that are giving jobs to them, illegals do not take them. the employers feel that they can rip the the illegal immigrants off by paying them near to nothing for what they do. this is why they would rather hire an illegal than an american.

M: bilingual schools do not work
F: the schools that have successful bilingual programs have one or two classrooms with a bilingual teacher assigned. these teachers are paid the average teacher salary and aim to give the children an education while also teaching them english along the way. most children in bilingual schools are statistically citizens.

M: illegals committed a crime and are scum because of that
F: surveys show that most american drivers have received traffic tickets at least once in their lives. by the myth definition, most american drivers are therefore considered scum. We all know this is not true. the same should apply the other way around.

M: illegals alone drain the economy by getting on welfare
F: the majority of people on welfare are proven to be citizens in poor areas or in bad situations. this means that thousands upon thousands of citizens are also taking money from the economy

M: welfare without illegal would fix the problem
T: welfare itself is the problem. too many people abstain from getting a job because they feel that they can live off of welfare. if we established a court system in which you had to prove why you need welfare in front of a judge, the problem would be fixed better than any other measures suggested.

M: a huge wall on the border is ideal
F: a wall of that length, height, and width would cost more money than all the alleged money illegal immigrants would cost us. it is said that a wall as described would cost a good trillion or so upon completion, and even so, illegal immigrants would come in through the streets that go through the wall from mexico to america.

If you have any more, please feel free to e-mail me or instant message me

by the way, feel free to dispute and argue against me! i am very open minded to what you might say. i totally understand there is a bad side to illegal immigration.

Answer 1

I agree with all of these statements. But as I have stated in one of your previous questions we as Americans have been drilled to not see the good in anything anymore. We only want to see the things that we think effect us. It's all about the all mighty dollar, and about ME! I do not feel this way but I see it everyday, and have to live with the racism and negativity. I am an American, but I have a bi-racial daughter who's father is Mexican. He came here on a work visa, but he gets criticized and put down for the color of his skin. And people automatically assume the worst about him.

Answer 2

1. It's true, most illegal immigrants DON'T pay taxes. They get paid cash for farm hand work, which is otherwise known as "under the table" from the IRS. Besides, one can't register tax forms with the IRS without a social security number.

2. They aren't only ripping the illegals off, they're ripping Americans off at the same time. If the employers were forced to pay at least minimum wages to everyone, regardless, a lot more Americans would have jobs too. You know, the legal citizens who also have insurance, taxes, and other costs of living to worry about.

3. The fact of whether bilingual schools work or not is not what a lot of us are concerned with. It's the fact that English should darn well be our official language and anyone who wishes to be a part of our culture needs to learn it - before they come here. We should never have to pay to teach them, that should be their responsibility.

4. Some things can be misconstrued as stereotypical, but the fact remains that we're seeing a rise in crime - especially among the border. It's practically turning into a war zone down there. Anyone with cable and newspaper access can see this daily.

5. If not welfare, they sure are a drain on the health care system. They use our emergency rooms like clinics, and never pay the bill. That directly affects us, because the hospital system is a business, and just like any other they have to make up that loss. It won't take you two tries to guess where they make that up, does it.

6. I agree with you on this point. It would be unfair to say that illegals alone are destroying our welfare system. Anyone who refuses to take on some personal responsibility for themselves and get an education, a job, or stop having babies is draining it. It was broken before the illegals came. It's wrong to say that we should boot any illegals off of it, when our own people are the ones who taught them how to abuse it.

7. It would be cheaper to finish building the wall than to deport the 1 million more we'll have in this country by the end of the year, hire more border patrol, or even build military posts along it. I say build the darn thing already.

Answer 3

Illegals paying taxes, sales tax, yes. Paycheck taxes to the IRS though, only if they have taken someone's ID. A valid Social Security number is needed. Most work under the table, so, no taxes to the IRS or to the State.

Jobs. Yes, they are underpaid, but the benefits they are getting off the legal citizens more than makes up for the lower wages.

Schools. Yes, bilingual programs in my area have many more than two classrooms with a bilingual teacher assigned. In my rural area two grade schools and one high school have been built within this past year to ease the overcrowding of the influx of all these illegal children who do not speak our language.

Crimes. Check out the jails and the most wanted lists just about anywhere. The majority of the names on them are hispanic in nature. This shows they do not deserve to be in this country legally.

Welfare, well, when those legal citizens of this country are receiving it when they need it, that is one of the benefits of being a citizen. However, those that are illegal do not deserve this and yes, they are draining those programs.

As for the rest of your 'points'.... just tired of typing on this end, but totally disagree with you.

Answer 4

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Answer 5

Illegal immigrants (makes no difference from where they came)
pay sales taxes when they purchase something, but how do
you know that they pay income taxes, if they have no social
security card, the employer may withhold taxes but because
your illegally here and have no SS number, he does not
send that money off to the IRS, he keeps it in his own
pocket. What can an illegal do, report him?

This is a total crock of crap, if you are here illegally then
pack your bags and go home, when you can come here
legally we will gladly welcome you. Personally I am
tired of supporting all of the illegals.

Answer 6

Look, this is America and we can believe any stupid thing we want to believe, and that's your no spin zone.

Call those of us who shake our head in disapproval at illegals racists, but guess what -it's not going to change our mind.

We don't want illegals here and don't give a damn about the benefits they pose.

You're right, however, a lot of the stuff we believe about illegals is a lie. Here's the thing: when the Irish and Germans came to the United States store signs weren't printed in both Gaelic and German. It was all in English. There wasn't any "bilingual schools."

America is hard and cruel. It's a Darwinian experiment that has been working out for us very well until the 1960s when the US was infiltrated by Communists posing as liberals.

The Hispanic heritage subverts the American identity for a Hispanic identity. Look at some of the villages in New Mexico -where some Hispanic families have been living for 400 years. They didn't demand that ballots, phone books, and instructions be printed in two languages. They adapted or became extinct.

Illegal immigrants are a danger to the American identity, not the economy.

"Fourth of July, NOT Cinco de Mayo."

Answer 7

I agree... all workers, unless they are being paid cash (which is not most illegal immigrants) have a taxable income and contribute to the IRS fund without access to claiming any returns. That argument goes out the window. Illegals contribute and take away just as much as anyone else.

Answer 8

1. Illegals pay only about 1/5 of what it costs us. If they are paying any taxes at all its with stolen identity.
2. Illegals are bringing down real wages.
3. Teachers are having to slow down and take more time to teach kids because they do not speak English thus degrading the education our children receive.
4. 25% of prisons along the borders states are filled with illegals. That is space we could use for our own criminals. Illegals also cause more accidents and drive up the cost of insurance.
5. Our welfare system is for Americans not illegals, and I do not pay taxes to support illegals. So whether we have welfare for our poor or not is nobodies business but ours.
6. The fence along with increased border security and following the existing laws we have on the books is much cheaper in the long run. It cost us over 80 billion a year to support illegals.

any other lame truths you want to lie about?

Answer 9

i think your full of s@it, we do need to make a border who cares if it costs a trillion we spent more on the war, what else is new they will just raise the taxes like they raised taxes when you illegals came in our country, bec you people steal our identities and go on wellfare when it should be reserved for americans, this is united states of america(americans)

Answer 10

A:Some are more valid than others. Illegals pay sales taxes on purchases, but not on income. Strike 1
B:Correct, more must be done to prosecute companies cutting corners to employ illegals at cut wages.
C:Wrong, bilingualism is a drain on resources of education. If you wish to succeed in this culture, learn to speak English. It is the language of success in this country. Pride and cultural bias will only lead to long term exclusion. IE. Blacks with poor diction and education. You don't want that!
D:A traffic ticket is not the same as a felony! Get real, if you respected our laws, there wouldn't be an illegal immigration problem, would there?
E: Not just welfare, which they don't contribute to, but a massive burden on the medical system as well as other social services.
F:Not
G:No, a wall is not the solution.

Answer 11

Yes, illegal immigrants pay sales tax. They do not consistently however pay federal income tax, which is the higher tax by far. Many are paid cash by their law breaking employers to avoid all payroll taxes.

Illegal immigrants don't "take" jobs? Are you actually serious with this one? Of course they do. We aren't talking slaves here. They do not have to accept or deny any job that is offered. They have free choice. They can walk away as easily as a USA born individual.

No one said bi lingual schools don't "work". Bi Lingual teachers are indeed paid more (at least they are in Dallas Tx) And yes--I believe that if you wish to live, work and go to school in the USA, you should learn to speak English.

Americans and illegals both drive crazy at times. Illegals are--by definition however--CRIMINALS. Nothing you say or do can change that fact.


Illegals cost Dallas County Tax payers over $70 million dollars alone each year in birthing their babies at ONE HOSPITAL -- Parkland. Just one hospital, and $70 million.....what about the rest in Dallas County? And Texas? And across the US? Duh.