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If you say it's in the 10 Commandments, "Thou shalt not kill",
then How would you justify:

- killing in self defense?

- killing in war/soldiers killing each other and innocent civilians?

- killing animals to eat their meat and use their bodies?

- killing bugs you can't even see while walking on the sidewalk?

- killing weeds?

2007-07-01 12:58:40 · 28 answers · asked by bonnechancepetitchat 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Patty: Hold on to your hat, madam, I am a practicing Christian! Who questions their own faith -- oh my goodness! Call the press!!!!!

2007-07-01 13:12:36 · update #1

28 answers

"Do not murder" refers to the self righteous, greedy act of killing of people. Self Defense, accidents and bugs are not in this catagory. God would never have you murder yourself because you are made for His plan and purpose not your own, your body is not your own to decide when to end your body. People die in the womb, in brutal deaths, in sickness, old age....this is a death that God has known before we were born and we are accountable if we know what we are doing and according to what we knew. God is the ultimate judge but it is likely that people who kill themselves for their own purposes (murder) will not make it to the kingdom of heaven. The Holy Spirit filled Christian rejects those feelings or thoughts if they come up to tempt them because they know they are not from God.

2007-07-01 13:15:42 · answer #1 · answered by Ms DeeAnn 5 · 1 0

The scripture never says that those who commit suicide go to hell. That is a teaching from the catholic church that they base on the idea that it is wrong to kill based on other scriptures.

First onteh suicide issue. In high school I had a godo friend commit suicide after a breif tramatic illness and discussed it with a 90 y/o preacher who explained it this way.

To him it made sense that a loving God who would sacrafice his son to pay for our wrongs like the scripture demonstrates does not send innocent people to hell for actions taken when they are insane or incapacitated mentally-

God created humans with an overwhelming insitct to do what ever it takes to live, to survive etc. If a person has become so mentally disturbed that that natural God given instinct is no longer functioning then that person has no responsibilty for his actions. In other words Generally only mentally ill people who are not responsible for their actions commit suicide- there may be some who do it to escape punishment but they are the exception.


now as to do not kill - the better term/traslation and actual word used in hebrew is do not murder.The instances mentioned above are not murder ( to purposfully and willfully deprive the life of the innocent without cause or justification).

Scripture is clear that the killing of animals for our use is acceptable- that war is acceptable if justified, that weeds and other plants, animals are not created in his image therefore are live in the same way we are- it is not the taking of innocnent life etc. if that were the case what would we eat? even to pick an apple and eat it kills it!
hope that helps

2007-07-01 13:15:01 · answer #2 · answered by allamericanred2 3 · 1 0

It is all so confusing to me too, As for the killing in the Bible it states an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth, Animals, birds cows pigs fish except for Lamb that is the animal that there is controversy over... As long as the animals are used for the right purpose & not wasted or killed just for the trophy, The trophy is great as long as the meat was eaten. That is a touchy subject... I have wondered the same thing about the bugs we kill too, I couldn't imagine a fly or a roach being part of all that but God did create bugs too & he did say Thou shall not kill!!! The bugs we step on without knowing it would not count... They also say once you have accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord & Savior no matter what you/ we are suppose to go to Heaven, I feel like if you have accepted him & you purposly killed someone or cheated on your spouse etc...that you would be more of a reason you would not go to Heaven because you made that vow!!! If we all really new???
In all actuality none of us would be going through any of these question in our head if Adam & Eve would have listened about the apple tree the tree of knowledge, when they did that all the troubles began,

2007-07-01 13:27:20 · answer #3 · answered by MoKelly 2 · 1 0

William Tyndale identified part of the problem in the foreword of his 16th-century Bible: “In putting departed souls in heaven, hell, or purgatory you destroy the arguments wherewith Christ and Paul prove the resurrection.” Yes, centuries ago, churchmen introduced a non-Biblical concept: immortal souls that leave the body at death and go straight to heaven, purgatory, Limbo, or hell. That concept clashed with the Bible’s clear teaching of a future resurrection. As Baptist minister Charles Andrews asked: “If the soul is already blissfully in heaven (or is already justifiably roasting in hell), what need is there for anything further?” He added: “This inner contradiction has remained to plague Christians throughout the centuries.” One result of such errant theology was that “since Augustine’s time [354-430 C.E.], the church has condemned suicide as a sin,” says Arthur Droge in the Bible Review, December 1989, “a sin beyond redemption, just like apostasy and adultery.” The harsh verdict of being “beyond redemption,” or hopelessly consigned to hellfire, carried the judgment-at-death argument to its shaky extreme. Admits the National Catholic Reporter: “Two of the church’s greatest doctors railed against suicide—Augustine branding it ‘detestable and damnable wickedness’ and Aquinas indicating it was a mortal [unforgivable] sin against God and the community—but not all churchmen have agreed.” Happily, we can avoid such “inner contradiction” by accepting two compatible Bible truths. First, “the soul that is sinning—it itself will die.” (Ezekiel 18:4) Second, the real hope for dead souls (people) is to live again through “a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.” (Acts 24:15) What, then, may we reasonably expect for people who commit suicide?

2016-05-20 22:50:01 · answer #4 · answered by pearlie 3 · 0 0

in 1 Kings 16:

There was an evil king named Zimri, when Zimri saw that the city was taken, he went into the citadel of the royal palace and set the palace on fire around him. So he died, because of the sins he had committed, doing evil in the eyes of the LORD.

Those doing evil in the sight of the Lord is bound for the lake, yo...

...all that other killing stuff well:

a Christian would die before killing in self defense, right...

there is a special place in heaven for soldiers like King David...

the animals are ours to do with as we seek fit...

them bugs is the same like the animals....

them weeds is the same like the bugs...

2007-07-01 13:25:33 · answer #5 · answered by jamestheprophet 6 · 1 0

Suicide is considered a crime. A self-inflicted crime by God and man.

No special Biblical law is found against this crime, for it is included in the prohibition against killing. Contrary to the practice and the philosophy of paganism, the act was held in deep abhorrence by the Hebrews because of the high value placed on human life. It was held inexcusable that any but the most degraded and satanic should lay hands on their own lives. Only the remorse of the damned could drive one to it, as witness Saul (1Sa 31:4) and Judas (Mt 27:5).

"Thou shall not kill" does not refer to self-defense, military service and/or police who are forced to kill in the line of duty to protect themselves and the public they are hired to protect.

Nor does it refer to killing animals for food.
Nor killing bugs, weeds, etc. etc.

Thou shall not kill...solely refers to one human being who kills another without provocation, injury, danger, or harm.

2007-07-01 13:17:29 · answer #6 · answered by faith 5 · 1 0

Some of that reasoning is WAY beyond the scope of Yahoo Answers but would be wonderful if we were face-to-face. I don't see a place where the Bible specifically says that people who suicide can't go to heaven. I agree with the others that it is "murder" in the original language. This would then not apply to animals, bugs or vegetation, nor would it apply to war, or excusable killings such as self-defense. I have to imagine that most suicides would not be self-murder because of the mental distress which underlies and leads to such an act. I don't believe God is quixotic, illogical, whimsical, or hateful. I believe He wants ALL of us to be saved and live on with Him in eternity, but has given us free will, so some of us will mess up our chances.

Thinking about God's will is never wrong, it is always right, and you are showing signs of intelligence and concern in this question, in my opinion.

2007-07-01 13:02:10 · answer #7 · answered by desperatehw 7 · 3 2

Indeed, and the ultimate form of divinity in a human is someone who actually does live by those commandments, after all they only tell us to love one another as we would have them love us (when you consider to do so would stop you from breaching any of the commandments). However I feel only the asceneded master have acheived such a state of being, and as we are all destined to become such over time I guess we'll get there.... eventually.

2007-07-01 13:03:48 · answer #8 · answered by Taliesin Pen Beirdd 5 · 1 0

There comes a time when killing is acceptable and needed but taking an innocent life is more to what God meant in my opinion. Thou shalt not kill to me means just that. We can not all make the right choices but the only sure way to go to Hell that I know of is not to believe in God himself and what he stands for.You shall put no other God before me.Therefore to answer your question I think suicide is not exclusive to gooin to Hell and there are exceptions.

2007-07-01 13:03:59 · answer #9 · answered by debbie f 5 · 2 1

What I find interesting is that culture are so different.

In Japan Hara-Kiri was the honorable thing to do if you broke the rules of honor, conduct etc. For them, there whole family would suffer if they did not. Stores wouldn't sell food, restaurants wouldn't serve them etc ..... But if your did the honorable thing and killed yourself, it showed that you truly seriously repent for the pain your action caused.

I was, a couple months ago, having this conversation with a Japanese person .... and it was amazing to see how deeply we believe what we are taught when we are young.

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2007-07-01 14:30:09 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

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