if there is no God, how did we find that out?

Question

Think about it. It doesn't make sense. If the idea of God is totally wrong and there is no God then we never should have had the idea of God. It should have never crept in to man's mind. Really, you think that finite man can invent somthing so profound? I don't think so.

Answer 1

They found it out through r&s in YA

Answer 2

The idea of absolutely needing God has the same roots as your need for God not to exist.

It all plays of the most primal of all fears: the fear of non-existence.

In fact, neither ideas should scare you. Either the universe stabilised itself at the beginning of Time and has specific rules that keep it from destroying itself. Or, The universe exist within an infinite realm with specific boundaries and has a keeper that either observes it or is the Primary force that caused It to come to Be.

My personal theory, is that God -might- exist. Except I don't have any tools to proves if he does or not. If you study enough science (astrophysics and Quantum physics, especially), you'll realise that our current science does not have all the answer.

My favorite exemple is Dark Matter -vs- Variable gravity. Either 92% of the weight of the universe is invisible, has no matter, but has a definite mass, or gravity is a variable element, which contredicts our current conception of gravity.

But, about religion, everything that has been written either in the Bible or any other religious book, is at best 5000 thousand years old and the universe is approximately 14 billion years old (that's a fact, don't give me any of that "it's just a theory" crap). Religious book also don't write themselves, they are written by men. Mostly males, because females have been beaten into submission for at least 4000 years in Middle East and about 2000 years in Occident, because of that nutcase Constantine I (who was gay and hated all women because he was forced to sleep with his wife and have descendants). Humans are weak, so they always distort simple ideas, bringing forth injustice, which leads to violence and suffering.

It just doesn't make sense that God would allow the birth of, let's say the egyptians, and then would want to kill 'em all just to make a point. (If he/she/it does, we're in deep sh*t, people).

So, I know the bible, but it's just a reference. I would never throw stones at anyone who said it wasn't the absolute truth.

There is one interesting theory: the finger of God.

At the beginning, there was nothing. But, instead of the "everything was created in 7 days (well, 6 days, actually)" line, we have this:

The universe was contained within an infinitesimal point, which was infinitly dense and Time did not exist. Nothing within it moved, and everything was fused.

Now, there was an incredible event, a random event that was not supposed to happen, because nothing ever happened within the Infinite Point.

Thus followed an explosion that shattered reality and created Space and Time. And it was good...

Liked that tale? That's the "Finger of God" theory.

Meaning that, if God exist, that was probably the only time God interveened in anything.

There was a random event at the begining of the Universe. If it was God or some random stuff... I have no idea.

Answer 3

Pick out a fiction book in the library. Some of the best are far more profound than the bible. War and Peace anyone? Crime & Punishment? Ulysses?

Man's imagination for such things is limitless. Of COURSE man could put the bible together as an attempt to explain existence, and that's exactly what he did. No divine influence whatsoever.

Answer 4

God was invented by primative man to explain natural things he did not understand. "Gods" were invented in all societies long before the Judeo-Christian tradition came to be.
Man has invented many ideas more profound than The Christian God.

Answer 5

Like so many others who came before you, who invented the Invisible Sky Critter concept, you think along the line, come to GODDIDIT and stop - if only you would keep questioning you would arrive at a different answer.

It's quite sad in one way but in another way it's quite excellent cos while the not so bright among us continue to get stuck in the GODDIDIT ruts and holes the rest of us can fly towards FREEDOM and TRUTH.

Answer 6

Using your very rational thinking. How do you explain telephones? I mean if there is no way for an idea to be created in the human mind without something putting it there. So tell me how we invented anything? Let me guess god must have created them right?

Answer 7

What a silly argument.
So if I imagine something, it must exist? People used to believe in all kinds of things: does that mean they existed?

Ever since humankind has had an idea of mortality and the 'bigger picture' there have been creation legends and apocalyptic stories. Harvest gods were worshiped and sometimes sacrificed to. Sun gods, weather gods, sea gods: all of these had many different names, legends, versions, faces and rituals. From the pantheists to today's monotheists, humans have historically imagined there to be a group of gods or one big god that watches over them, protects them, and punishes them.

By your reasoning each of these versions of gods must exist. But how many people today offer sacrifices to Zeus?

Answer 8

It was a way to control society by believing in something higher than humans. It was then corrupted by greedy people to make money and those that were on a power trip to control people's lives because God only spoke to them. I do believe when faced with the question of how we and everything around us was created that coming up with a single entity was possible. Then building on it to form it in to religion.

Answer 9

Yes, that's one of the arguments for God, that every need can be sated by something physical, or emotional, something known. But there exists within every person the want for something more.

Some people will say "By that logic, if *I* think it, it must be true" but there's nothing more widely discussed or debated about than the existence of God.

Answer 10

If that's so, how do you explain how all these non-Christians thought up their "false" gods?

Man invented gods back when we didn't understand how the world worked. It made sense to think that some greater, supernatural being made the rain fall and punished us when our crops failed back then, because we didn't know what else it could be.

Answer 11

It was quite easy, think of something that frightens you or you can't explain? Explanation, a god that we can not see did it. What is your explanation for Santa Clause, the tooth fairy, lock ness monster. Do you know how many books have been written about things that do not exist? That right there is proof that your hypothesis doesn't work.