What was advertised as a "Christmas program" in a county nursing home turned out to be something else. A religious group with the belief that all souls except for 144,000 would be destroyed was using the supposed Christmas program as a means of pushing their dogma on old, sick, suffering people.
Maybe they throught that since some of the patients were close to death, they could be easily converted.
One of the nursing assistants got up to testify about how she had accepted Christ as her saviour and would not be left behind.
On the next day that same nursing assistant left a helpless patient sit directly in the sun in a room with the thermostat turned up to 86 degrees. When she was asked for assistance because the patient's face was beet red and there was sweat running down her face, the nursing assistant did not help.
2007-07-01 04:45:34 · 20 answers · asked by Pascha 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
It's not ok at all! If they have to prey on the ill for "easy conversions" there is something seriously wrong with them.
2007-07-01 04:49:15 · answer #1 · answered by galapagos6 5 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Where did you get your information? What you have described is never permitted in a nursing home.
I have worked in many nursing homes over the years and the general age of the residents is such, ( christian back ground as children and young adults during the early 1920 to 1940"s).
That 98% have some type of faith back ground and for these various faith groups are schedualed "meeting and /or services 2 or 3 x's a week".
Such as what you have listed is from JW's and only the residents who have that background would be included in that service, other residents might go just to hear something besides the TV.
Because their body systems are very fragile and are generally always on the cool side the termostates are regulated and locked, and can not be set above 75 degrees, the system will not go there.
A Christmas program, 86 degrees, sunroom...depending on the location in the USA that statement has a few holes in it.
A nursing assistant is there only to assist the resident and would not be involved in the "religious program" or would be written up.
Direct sun shine is never allowed on to a resident since their skin is too fragile.
What you are discribeing never occurs in a nursing home setting.
I think what you are aiming at is trying to take away religious practices in the nursing home because you don't want these old people to freely worship and believe as they have done so all their lives. Remember this, it is a nursing home but IT IS THEIR HOME and you can not tell a person how to worship in thier own home.
There is a resident council that desides who and what religious programs come into their home, and many volunteer programs of the same that come in for daily music activities.
There are many resons for a residents face to be beet red, sweat running, etc. and a nursing assistant that does not render asstance at that point in time is fired on the spot...perhaps some one had fallen that must be taken care of first, an emergency of some sort, a resident is not left alone in a sunroom.
2007-07-01 12:34:52 · answer #2 · answered by coffee_pot12 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Well, you're obviously talking about jehovah's witnesses, and they are a bit screwy to begin with. Don't blame true Christians for the things that jehovah's witnesses, mormans, and moonies do.
I am a CNA, Christian, and have worked in many nursing homes. They all had a policy around talking religion with residents----listen quietly, pray with them if they want it, and don't express conflicting opinions. Don't initiate religious discussions, don't shirk from them, but just be positive and supportive. Some of the places I've worked in were affiliated with a church, like the Lutheran or Catholic church. they were better facilities than those that were non-affiliated, that much is certain.
2007-07-01 12:40:15 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Leaving a frail nursing home assistant in the sun w/ the heat turned up is just screwed UP. It's one thing to try and convert someone. I don't care WHAT your reasoning is to leave an elderly person in those conditions is ... it's just WRONG? Did anyone notify the state about that?
2007-07-01 11:49:11 · answer #4 · answered by Catherine 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Ok, I love God, but this is totally unacceptable. First off my mom was at a nursing home for a few months and I saw many people who were 'not all there' and they didn't understand when you talked to them, etc.
It's good to introduce them to God and His love for them....but in my opinion this was not love, nor done out of love for the patients. Sounds like torture to me. And if you have to 'scare' someone into 'loving' Christ....that's ridiculously idiotic on the part of this person. I hope she (the nurse) was reported and fired on the spot. That's the LEAST she deserves. It's people like her that give Christians a bad name. Plus, once again in my opinion, it doesn't sound like she's a Christian herself, cause she HAS to know that God wouldn't want her treating anyone like that.
2007-07-01 12:05:56 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The part of your question about converting patients in a nursing home: Any person in a nursing home enjoys attention, they have lost any hope and are given the least amount of care for their money. Whoever it is that is willing to give them their time, witches, warlocks, priests, converters, who cares.
The other portion of your question, a nurse that neglects a patient: that happens daily all over the US. That is why no one wants to go to a nursing home.
2007-07-01 11:54:08 · answer #6 · answered by Valerie 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
God, thats horrible.
I know of an old man, an atheist, who was dying. The nurse thought she was doing such a good deed by rattling on and on about Jesus the last few days before he died. Read the bible to him nonstop etc.
This is why if I go into a nursing home, I'm packing heat.
2007-07-01 11:48:21 · answer #7 · answered by Laptop Jesus 3.9 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
not all nursing homes are like this and definitely not all nurses or aids if they are Christian are like this. It is not scaring people to relay the truth to them if they ask about something but, in this atmosphere today you may not talk about religion unless the patient requests it or the nursing home can be sued.
2007-07-01 11:50:56 · answer #8 · answered by Tina T 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
That nursing assistant will burn in hell for doing that to a helpless person. Apparently they are only giving lip service to being a Christian if they are doing that to a helpless old lady.
2007-07-01 11:49:50 · answer #9 · answered by jimstock60 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I used to work at a nursing home (for a long time). You'd be shocked as too how many of them ask for a priest/preacher to come and pray with them because they know they're going to die soon. Not just prayer, but actually accepting the Lord and living the rest of their days praising and worshipping.
No one tried scaring them. It was something inherent.
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2007-07-01 11:49:54 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 1⤋
that is a sorry excuse for a bunch of people leaving the elderly in the sun that way,no it is not ok by any stretch of the imagination they should never be pushed to believe or not to believe the truth be told they should have charges pressed against them
2007-07-01 11:53:47 · answer #11 · answered by loveChrist 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋