Since the supporters of vaccines = autism have been getting their collective behinds handed to them since the Autism Omnibus trial started a couple of weeks ago, I am left to wonder - what will now be blamed for their children's condition?
I am happy to see science prevail and at the same time, illustrate the absurdity of their "desperation for compensation".
Of course, when they lose, they'll go to the conspiracy well one more time and claim that big pharma now runs the judicial system.
Will we ever reach the day when autistics are respected and not trotted out as objects to be pitied? Will we reach a day when they are looked at as equal human beings - not mysterious beings for society to hang its prejudices upon?
I hope I'm still alive to see that day.
In the meantime, a new "cause" of autism will no doubt emerge. I wouldn't be suprised if its blamed on global warming - just like everything else we can't explain.
What are your thoughts?
2007-06-27
08:34:13
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Richling, how is this related specifically to autism? Vaccines can cause adverse reactions that threaten the health of the individual - I am not refuting that. I can assure you that people recieving $ from HRSA are not receiving it because of autism.
Why?
Because there is no link. They will even tell you that.
Get your facts straight next time, please.
2007-06-27
08:52:00 ·
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SmartKat - I don't honestly believe any outcome will end the blame game. My question had some wishful thinking infused into it, I'll admit.
I've found this topic is just as taboo as religion or politics in conversations with those who don't share the same view. This is terribly troubling to me.
More troubling is how people buy into this garbage with absolutely no objective scientific evidence on their side - just shady manipulated studies and quack therapists who stand to make a buck off it.
2007-06-27
09:05:45 ·
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Julee,
I will not give anyone a break who would seek to "prevent" autism rather than deal with it. You are speaking of eugenics and I won't abide.
Sorry to jump all over you but I do take offense when someone wishes my child and others like him were "prevented". Autism is not easy to deal with sometimes but it makes my child who he is - it dictates his every action. It makes him wonderful in ways I cannot put into words. If he and people like him were "prevented", the world would suffer a great loss.
I urge you to choose your words more carefully in the future because you are sending out a negative message to autistics. It may not be your intent but if taken at face value, it's downright offensive.
If your dream truly is a world without autistics, I urge you to search within yourself for why you feel this is validated.
Keep in mind...Hitler dreamed of a world without certain people as well. Wishing to prevent some people really isn't that different.
2007-06-28
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SmartKat,
I choose not to be contacted directly because of my inability to always respond to things in a timely manner. Some people would think I was being rude if I didn't respond in a day, a week or even a month. Sometimes that's just how it is - I end up getting busy with life in general. I like to read all kind of things but spend a relatively small amount of time on YA! and never check my yahoo email account. On here, I prefer to lurk and occasionally speak up when my BS meter reaches capacity - but those moments are not as often anymore. That being said, there is a disproportionate amount of autism ignorance on this site and we both know how dangerous bad info can be.
To answer your question, I don't know what the "cause" of autism could be but following the research, I am convinced it is NOT vaccines. Personally, both sides of my child's family are loaded with ASDs so I lean more toward genetics.
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I'm open to any explanation that credible science supports
2007-06-28
06:29:42 ·
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momwhoknows, you don't seem to have all your facts straight and are mostly led by emotion. Can you point to one study that confirms your opinion? Rather than spend all my time in chatrooms boo-hooing, I look at published studies based on real research and fact. You should try it sometime.
Also, the other answerer who thinks scientists are all paid off by big pharma, please get a life. They can't all be bought off. Your statement undermines the integrity that most researchers have and their value to society by pursuit of the truth - ugly or not.
2007-07-01
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There will be no answers. The diagnosis rates will suddenly drop at the same time more and more children and adults will diagnosis with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and people will blame it on technology. This will continue until it is replaced with a different disorder. and so on and so on....
2007-06-29 15:53:25
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answered by jaybird 4
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I don't not agree with the blaming of vaccinations, however I do understand why parents do it. It is devastating for a parent to hear that their child has autism. That means, that quite possibly they will never hear the words "I love you" or even "Mommy" or "Daddy" from the child. Their child will most likely not have any friends (or very few).
Some families never go on vacations or even out to dinner because people would stare at them and their child. They will be criticized for the "lack of discipline". The child will be seen as a brat. The parents won't have the opportunity to sit down with every person they see in public and explain to them why their child acts that way.
Now, I understand, that parents should be able to get past these things. But I can't imagine how difficult it is! I work with children with autism and take them on outings to parks and libraries, etc. The looks we often receive are heartbreaking. I cannot imagine being the parent that has that child 24/7.
So, after all that...we shouldn't always be looking for something to "blame" for autism. But we should be looking for a cause so that we can prevent it. Parents are desperate to find something, anything, to help their children and future children from having to live life as they do.
So, let's just give them a break, let them hope in something.
I hope I'm still alive to see the day when a cause for autism has been found and we no longer have children being diagnosed. As I tell people...I would love to be out of a job.
2007-06-27 16:48:32
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answered by Jubee 2
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As a mother of an autistic child , Its really burns me up when an ignorant person makes that kind of remark. Autism is a spectrum disorder that has many causes not just genetic. Vaccines reactions do occur and cause seizures, high fevers, and even death!! Parents are not High when they report non-stop crying, high fevers, and convulsions shortly after vaccinations. It is painful to watch your child plunge into darkness. My son was perfectly healthy, no complication during pregnany, until this ludricious vaccination schedule started. Vaccines in combination with overuse of antiibiotics damaged my son. The doctors are also to blame. Why would you inject a vaccine into a child who just recovered from a round of antibiotics or was past the infective stage of a disease. Antibiotics and vaccines work by stimulating the immune system which is NOT FULLY DEVELOPED AT THIS YOUNG AGE!!! Vaccination of children should begin after the age of 2. The vaccination schedule needs to be changed dramatically. Too many vaccines given in such a short period of time puts too much stress on a developing immune system. One day in the future, the truth about why autism and related disorders WILL come out. In the meantime, leave the families alone. They don't want your pity and certainly don't disrespect their kids. Parents with disabled children accept them as they are. Check out the autism chat rooms. You will see how much the kids are loved. We call them Angels. Society is the one who frowns on anyone who is different. All we want is to find effective treatment for our kids to allow them to function without support.
momwhoknows
2007-06-29 11:03:45
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answered by momwhoknows 4
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Some Autism is probably caused by vaccines. However, there are so many different forms/levels of Autism that it is beginning to be a "catch-all" diagnosis similar to other "catch all" diagnoses.
I would also note that Autism is a mental disease. There are still questions behind what causes ANY mental illness. Even depression can be biological or situational.
2007-06-27 10:28:23
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answered by starrrrgazer 5
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Maybe you should try to do some research outside of government funded websites or agencies. You should always look at things openly and not so one sided. If it happened to your child within 48hrs of receiving a vaccines then maybe you would feel differently. Also The "Big Pharmas" do provide a lot of funding to the different government agencies.
You asked for peoples thoughts and you didn't say "if you agree what are your thoughts" So you really shouldn't criticize people for their thoughts since you asked for them.
2007-06-29 05:22:53
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Do you honestly think anything that happens in the trial will end the obcession with blaming autism?
Here are some current questions dealing with the autism-vaccine theory.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AtUlriVQhloxxR57gMuCz0Xsy6IX?qid=20070627070754AAF9RGp&show=7#profile-info-ec0b60fee25a982ef565651fd4f465d1aa
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ar2ma7EQLn_Ktn.yzu9lIzojzKIX?qid=20070627122944AAO4I1l
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ahy0GZvwKkZCPs.ruR4s1aYjzKIX?qid=20070627101932AAVegEd
I've heard pollution in general being blamed. Coal powered electric plants & such.
What do you consider the cause of autism to be? It apparently isn't 100% genetics, even though genetics play a huge factor!
I wish you had an email link so I could ask you these questions directly & refer others questions to you.
2007-06-27 08:59:38
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answered by Smart Kat 7
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my cousin is autistic.I believe that he is a very special person who just doesn't speak verbally.I love to sit with him and 'play'. If people blame a vaccine for their children being unique,what kind of world is this? Every child is different and just because a child doesn't speak verbally,doesn't mean that there isn't a wonderful,thinking,feeling person inside.
2007-06-27 08:51:22
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Okay what do you think the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (which is set up by the federal government) is for??? To date it has almost paid out $1 billion dollars. There has to be some reason for that. Oh that is because they are horrible for you. Google it.
2007-06-27 08:44:07
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