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i understand that you will explain this verse as because Jesus was carrying so many sins then God coludn't look at him.

what's your sources that prove this twisting explanation? and why chatholics insist that Jesus and God are equal? didn't Jesus clearly called his God in heaven to help him out? isn't this verse very clear ?

2007-06-21 17:22:25 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

correction:
"my God my God why have you forsaken me"

2007-06-21 17:33:14 · update #1

14 answers

Jesus was quoting the first verse Psalm 22.

The old argument goes that God is holy and cannot look upon sin. At the point when all the sins of the world were cast upon Jesus, God turned his back upon Jesus, and could not look at him.

The only problem with this is that this interpretation is completely and utterly ridiculous.

When NT writers and characters quote a verse from the OT, they actually had the larger context in mind.

When Jesus quoted Psalm 22, he had the entire thing in mind. Look at Psalm 22 verse by verse.

1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from the words of my groaning?
2 O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,
by night, and am not silent.

3 Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One;
you are the praise of Israel. [a]

4 In you our fathers put their trust;
they trusted and you delivered them.

5 They cried to you and were saved;
in you they trusted and were not disappointed.

6 But I am a worm and not a man,
scorned by men and despised by the people.

7 All who see me mock me;
they hurl insults, shaking their heads:

8 "He trusts in the LORD;
let the LORD rescue him.
Let him deliver him,
since he delights in him."

9 Yet you brought me out of the womb;
you made me trust in you
even at my mother's breast.

10 From birth I was cast upon you;
from my mother's womb you have been my God.

11 Do not be far from me,
for trouble is near
and there is no one to help.

12 Many bulls surround me;
strong bulls of Bashan encircle me.

13 Roaring lions tearing their prey
open their mouths wide against me.

14 I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint.
My heart has turned to wax;
it has melted away within me.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth;
you lay me [b] in the dust of death.

16 Dogs have surrounded me;
a band of evil men has encircled me,
they have pierced [c] my hands and my feet.

17 I can count all my bones;
people stare and gloat over me.

18 They divide my garments among them
and cast lots for my clothing.

19 But you, O LORD, be not far off;
O my Strength, come quickly to help me.

20 Deliver my life from the sword,
my precious life from the power of the dogs.

21 Rescue me from the mouth of the lions;
save [d] me from the horns of the wild oxen.

22 I will declare your name to my brothers;
in the congregation I will praise you.

23 You who fear the LORD, praise him!
All you descendants of Jacob, honor him!
Revere him, all you descendants of Israel!

24 For he has not despised or disdained
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.

25 From you comes the theme of my praise in the great assembly;
before those who fear you [e] will I fulfill my vows.

26 The poor will eat and be satisfied;
they who seek the LORD will praise him—
may your hearts live forever!

27 All the ends of the earth
will remember and turn to the LORD,
and all the families of the nations
will bow down before him,

28 for dominion belongs to the LORD
and he rules over the nations.

29 All the rich of the earth will feast and worship;
all who go down to the dust will kneel before him—
those who cannot keep themselves alive.

30 Posterity will serve him;
future generations will be told about the Lord.

31 They will proclaim his righteousness
to a people yet unborn—
for he has done it.

Look at verse 24. What began as a cry for help turns into an affirmation of God's presence, and then it becomes an affirmation and accomplishment of Jesus' mission on earth.

Now look at verses 30-31. That is why Jesus came to earth.

Now look at the very last line--"for he has done it."

What were Jesus' last words on the cross? According to John 19: "It is finished." (or it is accomplished/ it is done/ paid in full).

2007-06-21 19:14:32 · answer #1 · answered by Tim H 4 · 1 0

He also said "it is finished" his work on earth was complete.

His choice of words were hard because he was perfect and had no sin of his own. He(God man) was about to separate from Holy Perfection of the God Head. The words are a quote from Psalms 22:1. The sin problem was being resolved in that "He became sin but knew no sin. The just dying for the unjust." He then overcame the death on the cross and arose.

2007-06-22 00:46:54 · answer #2 · answered by j.wisdom 6 · 0 0

This is not accurate: should be "...Eloi, Eloi, why have you forsaken me?..."
But as for interpretation, all should be aware that Jesus was quoting the beginning of Psalm 22, a psalm of David. All Jesus is doing is reminding everyone looking on that this was His darkest hour, and that God's deliverance was about to take place. A thorough reading of Psalm 22 (I suggest the NKJV on this one) will disclose the eventual turnabout of events that is about to happen, as Jesus knows all too well.
It also tells us what He will do AFTER His deliverance and resurrection...something that is not much discussed in religious circles.

2007-06-22 00:35:49 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

It is the first line of the 22nd Psalm. After he said this some tried to comfort him with drink yet others knew His meaning and said let Him be. He was conveying the message of the 22nd Psalm by just quoting the first line. Read this Psalm and the entire meaning will be more clear.

2007-06-22 00:41:36 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

yes it certainly debunks the trinity, if Jesus were God, why didn't he answer him self?
These were the cries of a dieing man & yes even perfect people have pain & suffer dispair can you imagine after hanging there for hours why he must have cried out like this?
But it was in fulfillment of scripture

(Psalm 22:1-2) . . .My God, my God, why have you left me? [Why are you] far from saving me, [From] the words of my roaring?  2 O my God, I keep calling by day, and you do not answer; And by night, and there is no silence on my part.

2007-06-22 00:55:42 · answer #5 · answered by zorrro857 4 · 0 1

It is my God my God why have you forsaken me. And God had a plan and Jesus knew it. That is why things happened that way. He died on the cross for our sins. Hello.Jesus had the power to free himself but didn't because he knew what must be done.

2007-06-22 00:27:38 · answer #6 · answered by Love not hate 5 · 1 1

>>didn't Jesus clearly called his God in heaven to help him out?<<

No, He was quoting Scripture. See Psalm 22:1.

2007-06-22 00:29:12 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

As others have explained, Jesus was drawing their attention to Psalm 22. The Jewish people would have understood what He was refering to, and any wise person would have understood that prophecy was being fulfilled before their very eyes. Here are a few verses from Psalm 22 that had been foretold and had happened just moments before (ex: His crucifixion, their mocking him, the soldiers casting lots for His clothes):

"All who see me mock me; they hurl insults, shaking their heads: 'He trusts in the LORD; let the LORD rescue him. Let him deliver him, since he delights in him." (The religious leaders mocked Him in Mark 15:29-30: "Those who passed by hurled insults at him, shaking their heads and saying, 'So! You who are going to destroy the temple and build it in three days, come down from the cross and save yourself!'")

"I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint. My heart has turned to wax; it has melted away within me. My strength is dried up like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth; you lay me in the dust of death." (See John 19:31-37)

"Dogs have surrounded me; a band of evil men has encircled me, they have pierced my hands and my feet. I can count all my bones; people stare and gloat over me. They divide my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing." (See Mark 15:24 and John 19:24)


And this one is still being fulfilled:

"Posterity will serve him; future generations will be told about the Lord. They will proclaim his righteousness to a people yet unborn— for he has done it."

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Jesus claimed equality with God throughout scripture. See John 14:6-10 for just one example: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2014:6-10;&version=31;

2007-06-22 00:55:49 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Now reapply your breakthrough with analytical thinking to the rest of the Bible; you will drop Christianity like a hot rock.

btw the trinity is one of few things that almost kinda make sense-and are ripped off from other more advanced religions.

2007-06-22 00:26:46 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Err um, God of my Gods, why have you forsaken me?, wasn't it?

Peace.

ST

2007-06-22 00:27:47 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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