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This is something that I have learned and am not afraid to talk about. How about you? All you educated evolutionists out there? Well?

You keep talking about all the proof, the facts of Evolution having taken place. It is accepted and respected science.

No it is not, it is a joke and the joke is on you because you were duped into believing it. Now out of embarassement you cannot back down, you have to defend your position.

You typically cannot even carry on a decent conversation without calling names and hurling insults when you run out of intelligent things to say.

So, where is it? The proof? Examples please. Specific evidences.

Produce some and you could win $250,000

2007-06-21 16:34:39 · 31 answers · asked by realchurchhistorian 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Two of the 5 links you suggested do not even exist any more.

One shows the skull of a monkey and the 'biologists' are calling it a 3 year old girl. Pure idiots, just like anyone who looks at it and cannot tell the difference.

I am still reading on the other two sites, but they are typical. A whole lot of talk about 'acceptance', 'facts', 'science', and no evidence so far.

This is exactly the point I am trying to make. You who accept the Theory of Evolution do it based upon faith. It has nothing to do with observable facts that you have been shown.

In Psychology this is called pre-conditioning. Everyone believes it, respected people say it is true, I do not see what they are talking about, but in order not to be an out-cast I will say I believe it too.

Wake up.

2007-06-21 17:02:39 · update #1

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Dr. Francis S. Collins is Director of the National Human Genome Research Institute at the National Institute of Health in Bethesda, Maryland. He currently leads the Human Genome Project, directed at mapping and sequencing all of human DNA, and determining aspects of its function. His previous research has identified the genes responsible for cystic fibrosis, neurofibromatosis, Huntington's disease and Hutchison-Gilford progeria syndrome. He is a member of the Institute of Medicine and the National Academy of Sciences. For the rest of his credentials, click on the link here: http://www.genome.gov/10000980. Collins spoke with Bob Abernethy of PBS, posted online at http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethics/transcripts/collins.html, in which he summaries the compatability of fact and faith thusly:

"I think there's a common assumption that you cannot both be a rigorous, show-me-the-data scientist and a person who believes in a personal God. I would like to say that from my perspective that assumption is incorrect; that, in fact, these two areas are entirely compatible and not only can exist within the same person, but can exist in a very synthetic way, and not in a compartmentalized way. I have no reason to see a discordance between what I know as a scientist who spends all day studying the genome of humans and what I believe as somebody who pays a lot of attention to what the Bible has taught me about God and about Jesus Christ. Those are entirely compatible views.

"Science is the way -- a powerful way, indeed -- to study the natural world. Science is not particularly effective -- in fact, it's rather ineffective -- in making commentary about the supernatural world. Both worlds, for me, are quite real and quite important. They are investigated in different ways. They coexist. They illuminate each other. And it is a great joy to be in a position of being able to bring both of those points of view to bear in any given day of the week. The notion that you have to sort of choose one or the other is a terrible myth that has been put forward, and which many people have bought into without really having a chance to examine the evidence. I came to my faith not, actually, in a circumstance where it was drummed into me as a child, which people tend to assume of any scientist who still has a personal faith in God; but actually by a series of compelling, logical arguments, many of them put forward by C. S. Lewis, that got me to the precipice of saying, 'Faith is actually plausible.' You still have to make that step. You will still have to decide for yourself whether to believe. But you can get very close to that by intellect alone."

2007-06-21 16:43:47 · answer #1 · answered by wefmeister 7 · 1 1

heh everyone that asks something similar to this is just going to get an earful..and nothing else for their trouble.

The evolutionist believes that humans apes ect. came from the same ancestor

the Creationist believes that simply God (or the Creator) used the same (blueprint) or had the same materials to make humans and apes and other mamals. One did not come from the other threw time.

The difference from a logical standpoint of which is right and which is wrong is this.

Evolutionists can not poke holes into the creationist theory.. because its so simple there is nothing complicated about it. they can try to disprove the Existence of a creator and rail away and make fun of people that believe in a God. But they can not disprove it.

The creationist can poke holes into the theory of evolution because it is just that a theory ..not scientific fact. They have been unable to complete the picture so to speak and when you do poke holes into their theory theyll reply that all the holes will be filled in time and then they talk about the human genome... which of corse doesnt prove their theory

the beauty of it is that even though im a person that doesnt buy into the Evolution theory completely i do not completely discount it either they have proven enough that it need serious thought.. and i dont believe that if evolution is completely proven to be true that it discounts the existence of God in any way.

2007-06-21 16:53:54 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2 2

IMO missing links have been found. If you look at all the primative forms of man found, some of them could be called the missing link between man and ape.

But a "missing link" is not necessary to prove the theory.

Let me give you an example of how it works.

Imagine small birds living on a shore line. They wade out into the water and eat bugs from the bottom. Those birds with longer legs can go out deeper. Those birds with longer beaks can get the bugs in deeper water. Those birds that have both longer legs and beaks can go into deeper water and get the bugs they find there.

The birds with short legs and beaks have to compete with ALL of the other birds for the bugs in the shallow water. The birds with long legs and beaks only have to compete with similar birds for the bugs in the deeper water. Therefore the birds with the long legs and beaks are better fed and more likely to survive. When it comes time to mate, the long leg, long beak birds are more likely to have off spring.

Now repeat this generation after generation. Each generation, the birds with slightly longer legs and beaks have the advantage in getting food. All of the birds who do not change their diet will have very long legs and beaks and they will look just like storks.

The short beak, short leg birds either die out, or they change their diet and start eating something else. If they find their short little beaks are good at cracking open rotten wood, they find bugs in the wood. The birds with the long beaks never have the pressure put on them to change their diet, so they are back at the beach walking in the water. If even shorter beaks are an advantage in cracking the wood, those with shorter beaks will do better. if really strong beaks are an advantage cracking the wood, those with strong beaks will get more food. And as above, they will more likely survive and mate. Generation after generation this happens and you end up with a bunch of birds with short legs and really short strong beaks like wood peckers.

When the division first starts, both groups can breed and have viable offspring but since the two groups are a bit separated as to where they go for food, they will tend to breed with similar birds nearby rather than going away from the food supply for a mate.

Later, the two groups can breed but will start having some difficulties, such as the differences in their leg length.

Later, the two groups can breed but enough changes have taken place their mixed offspring are sterile. Like a mule.
And now we consider them of different species.

Later still, the two groups can not breed at all as they are now genetically incompatible.


And as a last comment..

Even those who support the THEORY of Evolution call it a THEORY. They admit it can and has been modified to meet new facts and to fix problems with the original Theory. (Darwin thought acquired characteristics could be passed on.)

Opposing them are those who say the Bible is the "WORD OF GOD" and can not be questioned.

Of the two groups, I find the Creationists the ones who will not consider their basic premise is wrong.

I resolve the issue this way. The Bible tells us WHAT God did. Evolution tells us HOW He did it. I see no conflict at all.

2007-06-21 20:42:56 · answer #3 · answered by forgivebutdonotforget911 6 · 0 0

this is one of the silliest presentations to date. No scientist, No educated person claims "FACTS." Perhaps YOU should do just a minute amount of research of your own and you will find it is the "Theory of Evolution," not the "Fact of Evolution." And yes, the Theory of Evolution IS respected in the scientific community as a THEORY. The theory fits most observable data seen in fossils and present animal life. Don't even think I am embarrassed, it is you who should be embarrassed by this statement that was not really a question. Your statement is headed towards Creationism, don't deny it. YOU prove your "facts." You prove your god. You prove with examples, please. You could win considerably more than $250,000 if you had a shred of real evidence of your god.
So please stop with the ministry, stop with the nonsense. If you want to discuss religion, do so...on the table, out in the open. The next thing you will be stating is that the Earth is 6,000 years old and you can prove it, and the existence of God with mathematics...I have seen it all, and your writings are a pittance.

2007-06-21 16:46:48 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 4 2

I'm not buying into your crap. You still need to get an education. Tp understand evolution, you need to understand biology, chemistry, physics, archaeology, history, and more. When you have studied those things, you come back here and we'll talk because I'm not spending the next two years typing out everything you need to know in order to understand the complicated issue of evolution. If you aren't willing to become educated, you have no one to blame but yourself.

For that matter... how about having the guts to actually go to the science section and ask SCIENTISTS to explain evolution to you? Are you afraid that they're going to prove you wrong?

2007-06-21 16:40:01 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 5 2

Lucy.

But you won't accept that because your propaganda sites claimed to have debunked it.

What do you do for a living? Biologist? Anthropologist? Any field of science? I know better because of your posts. Why are you trying to say that people who ARE in these professions are wrong? Do you have a better (or even the same) educational level? Are you smarter than every one of them? I know this argument is an authority argument but you can test their findings IF you are willing to get an education and become a professional scientist of some sort.

E-D-U-C-A-T-I-O-N look it up because you need one.

EDIT: Wow, just wow........way to take a rational argument and twist it to your irrational benefit. You're a preacher aren't you? I'm starting to believe that you people really ARE brainwashed. When confronted with evidence you close down and deny everything but a book written by bronze age goat herders. You don't JUST need an education you need deprogramming.

2007-06-21 16:45:52 · answer #6 · answered by thewolfskoll 5 · 4 3

There still are some links missing. The only evidence found so far was created by pure chance most likely unless God want us to expand our understanding of his handiwork?
burgess shale
Pikaia gracilens
archaeopteryx
Homo habilis
Homo rudolfensis and Homo georgicus
Homo ergaster and Homo erectus
Homo cepranensis and Homo antecessor
Homo heidelbergensis
Homo neanderthalensis
Homo rhodesiensis, and the Gawis cranium
'nuff said

P.S. The $250,000 reward is a scam.
http://www.counterbias.com/713.html

2007-06-21 16:47:59 · answer #7 · answered by hairypotto 6 · 3 1

I didn't know that something constitutes as a joke because you don't understand it.

No missing links? Have you ever taken a science course? It probably wouldn't do you any good, because you don't care. You are worse than someone who is unintelligent - you are ignorant, and do not want to learn. I blame whoever taught you to be narrow-minded.

If you want some good answers ask this in the anthropology section. Asking on here proves that you don't care at all.

2007-06-21 16:44:51 · answer #8 · answered by khard 6 · 3 2

Yes
Evolution has taken ( and do all the time) place and there are no missing links. It is simply impossible according to the way evolution works.
Everyone who understand the evolution will know that.
It also means that the egg came before the chicken.

2007-06-21 16:40:18 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

You misspelled evolutionist.
Let’s not talk about Darwinism, because that seems to upset people. What about automobiles, airplanes, computers and televisions? These machines have developed gradually becoming more complex and advanced. This alone is an example of evolution. You don’t have to believe in Darwinism or anything that conflicts with your religion, just understand the definition of evolution. Evolution doesn’t have to be a threat to your beliefs. Simple advancements like human technology are examples of what evolution is about.

Can I have my money now?

2007-06-21 16:39:41 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 4

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