why if jesus is god did he said "father why has you abandoned me" when he was at the cross??? wouldnt it be...

Question

like saying: "me, why have i abandoned me?" (maybe the wounds were too painful and he didnt know what he was saying, just as many christians)

Answer 1

christianity doesnt make sense... you know it doesnt. they know too... that is why there is a need for extensive apologetics...

i had a question where they insisted that jesus is god... now see that they will say otherwise. as they say here, jesus and god is a different person... but when i asked:

"if god loves us so much, why did he sacrifice his son instead of himself?" guess what they will answer... i'll check if i can get the link

Answer 2

The hypostatic union is the term used to describe how God the Son, Jesus Christ, took on a human nature, yet remained fully God at the same time. Jesus always had been God (John 8:58; 10:30), but at the incarnation Jesus took on human flesh - He became a human being (John 1:14). The addition of the human nature to the divine nature is Jesus, the God-man. This is the hypostatic union, Jesus Christ, one Person, fully God and fully man.

Jesus' two natures, human and divine, are inseparable. Jesus will forever be the God-man, fully God and fully human, two distinct natures in one Person. Jesus' humanity and divinity are not mixed, but are united without loss of separate identity. Jesus sometimes operated with the limitations of humanity (John 4:6; 19:28) and other times in the power of His deity (John 11:43; Matthew 14:18-21). In both, Jesus' actions were from His one Person. Jesus had two natures, but only one person or personality.

The doctrine of the hypostatic union is an attempt to explain how Jesus could be both God and man at the same time. It is ultimately, though, a doctrine that we are incapable of fully understanding. It is impossible for us to fully understand how God works. We, as finite human beings, should not expect to be able to comprehend an infinite God. Jesus is God’s Son in that He was conceived by the Holy Spirit (Luke 1:35). But that does not mean Jesus did not exist before He was conceived. Jesus always has existed (John 8:58; 10:30). When Jesus was conceived, He became a human being in addition to being God (John 1:1,14).

Jesus is both God and man. Jesus has always been God, but He did not become a human being until He was conceived in Mary. Jesus became a human being so that He could identify with us in our struggles (Hebrews 2:17) and, more importantly, so that He could die on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins (Philippians 2:5-11). In summary, the hypostatic union teaches that Jesus is both fully human and fully divine, that there is no mixture or dilution of either nature, and that He is one united Person, forever.

Recommended Resource: The Moody Handbook of Theology by Paul Enns.

Answer 3

Pardon me, but you are seeming to have an insultingly stupid question.

I think you need to have a closer look at Jesus. He is called God, (god,,,a god) in english, in His language Elohiym. His father is referred to as GOD or LORD GOD (all caps) and has a greeat name of His own.

The matter of why did he say "my god my god, why hast thou forsaken me" is because he was forsaken, dying, and having to undergo a dreadful curse for being hanged in a tree. His innocence meant that he would be justified and free from the curse in the end.

There is a lot to the words. Psalm 22.

For the cause of the woman (the church, eve, etc) a man would leave his father and cleave to his wife. From Genesis.
this saying of Adam (before he sinned) had great meaning.

Jesus had said that God was the God of the living and not the God of the dead: As he was dying, he understood this personally.

Remember that as he died, God was so grief stricken that the temple curtain was torn, as a person might rend their garment.

Answer 4

He knew what He was saying- Jesus is "God the Son" part of the Trinity - three in one. God the Father could not look at God the Son who was then in human form because Jesus, God the Son, had become sin (all the sin ever comitted through all of human existence) and God the Father cannot look upon sin. They are separate but- one, equal in God head.
And most of you will have no clue what I am talking about.

Answer 5

Jesus is a separate person from God the Father. But Jesus is also a God. He is perfectly united as one in purpose and will with the Father to the extent that it can be said of Him that He is One with the Father, One God, or One Godhead. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost are three separate entities. They are three different persons. But they are one in purpose...which means they act as One Being, one eternal Godhead or God.

Answer 6

That is one reason why I am no longer Catholic because that made no sense. I am still christian though. Christianity splits in half on this topic some view God as one God but 3 presences connected while other christian denominations view it as one God but 3 seperate and distinct presences. I now go with the latter.

Answer 7

Wrong!

He had taken on the sins of the world and for the first time God had turned his back on him. It was only after the Resurrection and he had finished payment of our sins that he was back in relationship with God.

Second it is right out of the Psalms 22
IF you read it you will see it is almost a perfect description of Jesus's Crucifixion even though written almost 1000 years earlier.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=psalms%2022&version=31

Answer 8

Jehovah's Holy Spirit had been in operation in Jesus since his baptism in 29 ce.
Jehovah withdrew that spirit so that his son could be fully put to the test to prove that Adam, could have stayed faithful if he had chose to do so.
Roman 5;12

Answer 9

I asked one of our church elders this same question because I was curious as to why the son of god would cry out "why have you forsaken me" and they told me it was because Jesus had taken on our sin and that he felt as we do in our sinful nature (usually when we turn our back on him and revel in our sin) that the lord has forsaken us. At that time he was truly human, sin and all. I don't know if that is the general consensus among religions but I thought I would share that knowledge.

Answer 10

Yes I asked this question too but muslims believe that jesus is a prophet not the son of god or god. but now people take it that he is god and it is really weird that they believe this.

Answer 11

There is only one GOD ALMIGHTY, who has many sons in heaven, but only one SON was sent from heaven to become human and live in the flesh to teach ALL that HE learned from the heavenly FATHER to us, and then HE took our sins upon HIMSELF to bring us back to our heavenly FATHER.

Romans 5

Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ

12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned— 13 for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! 16 Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification. 17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.

18 Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

20 The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.