ATHEISTS! come and explain this to me........?

Question

Ok for starters I'm a Christian with high beliefs and nothing you can say will ever change that or turn me into an Athiest. But anyways...ok look since I belive that God created the Universe and everything in it how do you think everything got here? If you believe that its because of the big bang then explain this to me...the theory suggests that everything was tiny particles copacted tightly together. It got so tight and dense that it all exploded and gradually evolved into what it is today. Ok well how did those tiny particles get there? DUH GOD CREATED THEM! What is your opinion on this?

The one answer I got asked who created God? No one knows for sure for it doesn't mention it in the bible. I'll just ask him when I get to heaven. But I think somewhere in the bible it says that God came from some land called Nad.

Well I don't know about you but I'd rather belive in God and find out he isn't real than to not believe in God and find out he is real. Cause if you believe in him and find out he wasn't real you had nothing to lose. If you didn't believe in him and found out he is real then you're in big trouble!

Answer 1

Great idea! Instead of trying to figure out the universe, let's say that "God did it!", along with everything else we aren't completely sure of! That way we can feel like we know a lot, when in fact we are lying to ourselves.

In response to your additional details, your belief in God is based on positive reinforcement and punishment? That you want to go to heaven and not to hell? It seems that you are not concerned with the truth, but just want whatever will make you happy.

Answer 2

You claim that something cannot come from nothing and therefore everything must require a creator. This implies that it is impossible for something to have always existed because it would have to have begining or point of creation. If this is true then God requires a creator. Why would God be exempt from the rule that everything requires a creator?

We do not claim that those particles came from nothing but at least we are intelligent enough to be able to ADMIT that we don't know (yet) where they came from. Simply assuming that those particles were created by God just because we aren't yet sure of where they came from is completely ignorant. Just because we haven't yet discovered something doesn't mean "God did it". This is a classic "God of the Gaps" argument and it is fallacious. Just because Science doesn't have an answer doesn't mean there isn't one - it means we don't know it yet and are at least humble enough to admit that fact and keep searching for the truth rather than throwing up our hands and saying "God must have done it."

Think about if scientists never tried to learn more about our planet because we all just assumed that God was in control and would take care of everything. Scientists would never try to find cures for diseases because they could just assume that God created those diseases for a reason and that God would find a way to cure them. We would never study the universe and we would know nothing about our solar system. We would be an incredibly ignorant and unknowledgable planet if everything used the same "logic" as you have posed here.

Answer 3

The law of conservation of matter and energy states that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, and that matter cannot increase or decrease during a ordinary chemical change. The total quantity of matter and energy available in the universe is a fixed amount and never any more or less.Thus, the universe, which is composed of energy and matter, has always existed.
"The First Law of Thermodynamics, also known as the law of conservation, states that matter or energy cannot be destroyed. It can revert to forms difficult to utilize (Second Law of Thermodynamics) or be converted to each other (e=mc^2). No completely new matter or energy has been created since the big bang. (Thermodynamics is a field of physics on whose principles much of science and engineering is based.) As an example of this law consider a piece of wood. If you were to burn it you might think it has been destroyed, but what has actually happened is that it has been converted into ash, heat and other chemical reactions. It still exists but in another form.

Einstein concluded that energy and mass are actually different states of a single energy-matter continuum. Energy is matter in its intangible form; matter is energy in its tangible form. What this means is that all the matter and all the energy that exist in the universe have existed since it’s creation in one form or another.Einstein’s theory of special relativity changed all that. From it we learned that the universe had a beginning. That beginning includes not only matter and energy, but space and time as well. "


You can argue that a God created the energy and the matter,since the universe could not suddenly exist where nothing had existed before at least not by natural means, but I personally don't believe this. I cannot accept this conclusion since there's just so much we still don't know.

Answer 4

"Ok for starters I'm a Christian with high beliefs and nothing you can say will ever change that or turn me into an Athiest."
I'll keep that in mind. Boy, this should be fun.

"Ok well how did those tiny particles get there? DUH GOD CREATED THEM!"
Blonde moment, huh. Ever heard of the Argumentum ad Ignorantium?

1. I do not know how X happened.
2. Therefore, God created X.
Point 2 doesn't logically follow. In the absence of a rational, scientific explanation, you have placed your particular version of the Christian God into the equation to fill in the gap of ignorance.

Unlike you, I'm perfectly willing to say "I don't know."

Edit:
Honey, search Wikipedia for Pascal's Wager.
That's not an argument for the existence of God, it's a crappy argument by intimidation. Doesn't work.

Answer 5

You question is simply an unimportant question. It is an unknowable so unimportant becuase it does not lead to greater insight into life.

The important question is how do you live your life from moment to moment so that you bring love and joy to all around you and even those you don't know and even more to those you hate. How much love do you create with your actions? These are the important questions to answer in life. If you are creating love and compassion, god and the rest will take care of itself.

Also, your question leads to the question who created god. Still an unknowable question so an unimportant question.

Answer 6

From Dr. Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

What happened before the beginning?
- Astrophysicists have no idea. Or, rather, our most creative ideas have little or no grounding in experimental science. Yet certain type of religious person tends to assert, with a tinge of smugness, that something must have started it all: a force greater than all others, a source from which everything issues. A prime-mover. In the mind of such a person, that something is, of course, God.
But what if the universe was always there, in a state or condition we have yet to identify--a multiverse, for instance? Or what if the universe, like its particles, just popped into existence from nothing?

Answer 7

Let us look at your deep, deep, deep question. You claim, based on your extremely insignificant understanding of science, that a supernatural creator is required for my science to work. If so, then I claim that your religion requires a supernatural creator to work. So, tell me, who created your god. Once you tell me who created your god, then I will be quite happy to tell you how all those particles got there. If you are unwilling or unable to tell me who created your god, then I will accept your apology for presuming that your insignificant understanding of science gives you some special insight into a hypocritical set of requirements that I must satisfy but that you need not.

Answer 8

i am a christian and believe there is a god that oversaw creation. but what is the point of asking a question and seeking knowledge prefaced with a disdain for any answer you might receive.
everyone here, guess what, we don't know. its that simple. we should keep trying to figure it out, yes, but why argue about something no one truly knows. discussion and investigating is great, but this, well this is just an argument.

Answer 9

Sweetie, we didn't always know about those particules..intensive scientific research gave us those answers and will continue to fill us in in things we don't know yet...That's why science is so captivating.
But going straight to " GODDITIT" will not advance us in anything at all.
Remember, if Galileo had listened to the Church's staunch refusal to consider his findings because they contradicted the Bible, we'd probably still believe that Earth is the center of the Universe...
Good day.

Answer 10

Who created God? If the initial seed need to be created, why does God not have to have been created.

God is much more complex than a compact seed of matter, therefore it is easier to imagine an inert seed of matter existing on its own, rather than something as complex and powerful as God.

In fact, recent experiments have demonstrated that energy and matter literal do pop into existence out of nothing, although I suppose you could say that God is creating that as well.

If you insist that something has to have been created by God to have existed, then what God created God?

Answer 11

Not again.

The difference between Christians and Atheists is that Atheists have the guts to admit "I don't know..." and then say "...but I'll find out" and accept that they may never know. The Christians say "I know everything because a 2000 year old book written by sheepherders who thought the earth was flat says so".

Honestly, why do you have such a hard time accepting "I don't know"? "I don't know" doesn't equal "god did it".

Convenience and comfort answers are weak.