a woman in the Book of Maccabees saw her sons tortured and was told they would all be killed?

Question

if they didn't give up their faith in the One True God but, she encouraged her children to die than to do that and Scripture says it will be recorded and her courage will be talked about forever, how come the Protestants removed this? If the Divine says she will be talked about forever, why is it that the Catholic Bible is the one that does that yet we take hits for not following the Bible? That's just wrong.

Answer 1

Distrusting the Latin Vulgate Bible, because it was relied on by the Catholic Church, Luther decided to translate his Bible into German from the original languages. The earliest forms of the New Testament writings were in Greek, so Luther translated his New Testament from Greek. It was known that most of the Old Testament had originally been written in Hebrew. So Luther wanted to translate his German Old Testament from the Hebrew texts.

In this he was following St Jerome, who had sought out old Hebrew manuscripts to produce the Latin Vulgate Bible in 406 AD. However, when Luther obtained Hebrew manuscripts from the Jews of his time, he found that the seven Books in question were not in their Canon of Scripture. This strengthened his resolve to remove the Books. The Jews, he argued, were the Guardians of the Old Testament, so he would use their Old Testament.

BUT...

The oldest existing versions of the Jewish Old Testament include the Seven Books. It is from these versions that the early Christian Scriptures were made. The best, oldest and most complete version of the Jewish Old Testament we know today is called The Septuagint, and this includes the books that Luther deleted.

Answer 2

It has already been intimated that there is a smaller, or incomplete, and larger, or complete, Old Testament. Both of these were handed down by the Jews;

the former by the Palestinian Jews,

the latter by the Alexandrian, Hellenist, Jews.

The ancient Greek Old Testament known as the Septuagint was the vehicle which conveyed these additional Scriptures into the Catholic Church. The Septuagint version was the Bible of the Greek-speaking, or Hellenist, Jews, whose intellectual and literary centre was Alexandria .
The oldest extant copies date from the fourth and fifth centuries of our era, and were therefore made by Christian hands; nevertheless scholars generally admit that these faithfully represent the Old Testament as it was current among the Hellenist or Alexandrian Jews in the age immediately preceding Christ.

Some would have it that not the Alexandrian, but the Palestinian, Jews departed from the Biblical tradition.
Palestinian Canon must have included all the deuterocanonicals, and so stood down to the time of the Apostles

Council of Jamnia (c. A.D. 90)
After the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE, Rabbi Yohanan ben Zakkai relocated to the city of Yavne/Jamnia and founded a school of Jewish law there, becoming a major source for the later Mishna. His school is often understood as a wellspring of Rabbinic Judaism. The Council of Yavne or Council of Jamnia refers to a hypothetical Proto-Rabbinic council under Yohanan's leadership, that was responsible for defining the canon of the Hebrew Bible.

Answer 3

Protestants removed it for a couple of reasons:

1. It isn't in the Jewish canon of scripture. The Christian church had always used its own canon based on the books included in the LXX, but Martin Luther thought it might be best to use the Jewish canon for some reason.

2. The Maccabee books aren't doctrinal, but in passing mention something that conflicted with Luther's Sola Fide agenda (it is mentioned in passing that certain folks offered prayers for the dead. 2 Maccabees 12:38-46)

This didn't happen right away. Initially, for instance, the Anglican church kept the deuterocanonicals, calling them "the apocrypha" and incorporating them into the KJV translation. It took a couple of centuries for them to finally toss them out for good.

However, it is undeniable that for a millenium and a half, all Christian bibles everywhere included the Maccabee books. Even today, 75% of Christendom - the Catholics, Orthodox, Copts, Nestorians, and Armenians - still and always include these books. Only Protestants have ever omitted them, and that only began three centuries ago.

Thumb trolls can thumbs-down all they want, but a fact, however uncomfortable a fact, remains a fact.

Answer 4

To be honest, I have never understood what the Catholic Church was thinking when it commissioned it's version of the Bible.

In certain other texts, Maccabees is considered apochryphal, which means that the book's authenticity is in doubt. I think that for a book to be considered true, it has to have some historical proof and can be traced back to events during the day, or be mentioned in the old testament.

As for me, I have a bible which places the apocrypha in between the old testament and the new testament.

Answer 5

i dunno why it was taken out, but i have been to many churches of many diffrent organizations of christianity , and they preach this, and in my opnion people will be torcherd to change there beliefs in the end, and even some of the good will be left to test there faith

Answer 6

Well, Raven beat me to it!

Great answer.

Answer 7

that book is not actually part of the Bible,
believe the catholics added it to the bible but is not part of God's word

Answer 8

because the reality is that one of her children was an expert warrior, broke free and dined upon his captor's entrails!