Are we supposed to feel sorry for these people?

Question

Who is the spin-meister behind this story?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070613/lf_nm/usa_immigration_raids_dc

If you were a parent who REALLY cared for your children, why would you EVER put them in a situation where they could be separated from you?

This situation is NO DIFFERENT than a parent selling drugs risking they could be busted and sent to prison, thus being separated from their children.

The law is the law - you break the law, you must be prepared to pay the consequence.

Are we going to get sob stories about families separated because dad robbed a bank next?

I am a parent and I would NEVER put my child in that situation...any other opinions on this?

I do fell bad for the children - feel bad that their parents could give a crap about them and are leaving them hung out to dry.

TECHX69: being in this country ILLEGALLY is a crime - hence the term ILLEGAL...and no worries sparky, I am not a criminal so I don't need to worry about being separated from my children. These people know very well that they could be deported and have made NO EFFORT to get on the path to legal citizenship?

dmann253: yeah, I relate the situation to selling drugs or robbing banks, damn right I do, know why? because they are all illegal activities. you mention parents wanting to do what is best for their family - wel what is wrong with applying for citizenship and doing it THE RIGHT WAY? The government will not deport you if they know you are in the process of becoming a citizen - unless you should commit a crime. but to start off on the wrong foot compromises the future of the ENTIRE family unit - AND THEY KNOW IT. And you mention that these people come form all over, which I don not disagree with - but a great number of them come here with NO CHILDREN - which is made obvious in the story that the children were born here. So what family were they trying to better if it didn't exist until AFTER they came here ILLEGALLY?

ktmamax3: HOLY CRAP! you hit it right in the soft spot! BRAVO! my point exactly, although mine was not as well defined as yours!

Answer 1

Unbelieveable... Well, not really, but disgusting nonetheless!
Look, I don't argue that life sucks in Mexico, but why/how is that AMERICA's responsibility? (Don't say NAFTA, or they'd be working at American jobs down there.)
If my car is broken and I don't want to spend the money or energy to fix it, I can just take yours, right? No! Nor should I have the right to!
Mexico's government is horribly broken... It is totally corrupt--they illegally export their poverty here for us to pay for. And we're supposed to just let them because illegals aliens who have CHOSEN to come here ILLEGALLY to have kids (who were probably paid for by state health care--see article link below) want us to feel bad about their poor choices.

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime--it's what keeps the vast majority of Americans out of jail. We like our freedoms and are willing to abide by very reasonable laws to keep them.

Illegal aliens KNOW what they're doing when they come here! The Mexican governments provides them instruction manuals on how to cross the border and take advantage of our social services. They KNOW what they're doing is illegal. They are WILLFULLY breaking our laws by coming here in the hopes that they won't get caught and won't get punished if they are. WHY do they deserve better treatment than those waiting in line to immigrate legally? Why do they deserve better benefits than our own poor?

And this load of malarky...
"People already complain that strawberries are $4 a quart. Do they want it to be $10?" he said. "If you don't let these people come over here you'll get food from the same place we get our oil -- overseas. Do you want them to control our food supply too?"

Surely you understand that prices are artificially low because famers (and other industries) aren't paying their "employees" fair wages or benefits. We taxpayers pay far more than $10 a quarts-worth of strawberries in our taxes for social programs like free public education and free lunches.
Yes, the prices on some labor-intensive foods/markets would rise initially until they become stabilized by supply/demand. Meanwhile, however, the costs in practically everything else would decline.
Personally, I'd gladly pay $5 for a head of lettuce if we could stop paying for illegals to come here and have babies in our hosptitals for free--that's thousands for EACH baby born here!

"Only women who can prove their citizenship get prenatal care from AHCCCS. For noncitizens — illegal immigrants, and immigrants who live here legally but are working to obtain citizenship — AHCCCS will cover baby deliveries only. That's in keeping with the AHCCCS policy of providing only emergency care to noncitizens, and a woman in labor is considered a medical emergency.
At TMC last year, 1,210 babies were born to noncitizen mothers — about 18 percent of the hospital's total births, said TMC spokeswoman Julia Strange."

That says enough... Pffftt... I'm done.

Answer 2

I agree with you completely, even in the Bible it says the sins of the parents are visited upon the children. I guess that is clear enough for everyone to understand! I'd never put my child at risk of my not being able to care for him myself and I think that is what all the pro's are missing. It was done with forethought and I guess they figured we Americans are a sucker for a sob story! The sad thing, too, is that they are teaching their children that laws don't have to be obeyed! What a great start for their education on morals and civic obligations. What kind of law abiding citizens will we get from these kids? I guess we're all just sick of being the bad guy when, in fact, they did it themselves and we're supposed to just say oh, ok we'll take care of all of you now that your plan has failed to dupe the American government and it's people. I'm not one of those who are willing to take on the committment! This guy who answered said it was a selfless thing to get your child a better life and sacrifice your own for it, my question is why would you continue having children that you cannot afford to feed and care for, selfless or selfish?

Answer 3

I noticed that so many tell us that it is wrong to separate families because illegals do this. But they never say that because these children are illegals too whether they were born here or not (as the forefathers who wrote the Constitution DID NOT ADOPT English law regarding Jus Solis no matter what people have been told or believe in the matter) that these parents can take those children back with them. In fact it should be a mandatory requirement so not to "break up families".

The lies, and fables set straight regarding the Constitutions 14th Amendment, and Jus Solis.
http://idexer.com/

I have empathy for them. However ask yourself this - What does our laws say regarding a parent or parents who are American, or Naturalized citizens who abandon their children in this country if caught? Why should it be any different of or for illegals? Abandonment of a child, and neglect is a crime? Why do these people get preferential treatment and sob stories to boot regarding it?

Answer 4

200 dollars for a bottle of wine. I bought a 12 pack of Brooklyn lager for 12 bucks on sale at Waldbaum's in Queens NY. Don't MEEPING feel sorry that guy.

Answer 5

I have read the story and really do feel sorry for these people. They come over to try and better themselves and give their families a better life. What does annoy me is the fact that most are being exploited and given menial jobs. However, after all is said and done, they are breaking the law and must suffer the consequencies if caught. They should give it serious thought beforehand and maybe not have children to put them in that predicament in the first place.

Answer 6

We need to change the law to deny citizenship to children of illegals. There parents are Mexican so the children should be to. The kids could go back with mom to the homeland then.

Answer 7

It is aimed at getting a tear-jerk response.
Basically, though, since the father was here legally, they knew how to enter the US legally.
Obviously, they knew they were breaking the law with the mother's status.
They made a bad decision and broke the law.
Deport her. Parents who commit crimes and go to prison are separated from their children as well.
Repeal the laws allowing anchor babies.

Answer 8

Totally agree with you. Being a criminal ( in the USA illegally ) and having children KNOWING you could get deported and put your children without a source of food and shelter should be consider criminal negligence.

Answer 9

It's funny when I hear the liberals say "yes, they use stolen social security cards but that means they pay taxes" and other ridiculous things. NO AMNESTY!

Answer 10

"...pregnant mother of 3..."

OMG. That says it all, right there. I don't give a flip is she hasn't accepted a single penny in welfare, she is obviously here to give birth to citizens in the hope that she won't be deported. Too bad, so sad. She has been here at least 12 years. Don't tell me she didn't have time to fill out some paperwork or get a green card.

This is what separates we law-abiding citizens from criminals of all kinds. We EXPECT to get caught and judged for our crimes. They act all shocked when they get busted and then cry foul.