You Christians say we are ruining your way of life?

Question

I am an atheist and I am polish. I was told by someone whose family has been here since the Europeans came that I have no right to change things. He told me that all my people came here to this country looking for a better life and now we are taking advantage of his people by trying to change the way this country works. He claims that this country was founded on the Bible and should stay that way. He asked, “Why don't you just fix things in your country.” He must have forgotten that this country was actually founded by Native Americans. His ancestors came to America from Europe looking for a better life, just as my ancestors did, and they took big time advantage of the Indians, the same way my people are taking advantage of his people. Couldn't I ask him the same question, why didn't your European ancestors just fix their country? Could it be karma????

Answer 1

Trying to justify bad behavior by pointing out someone else's bad behavior is pointless and solves nothing.

In regard to our country's Biblical, Christian heritage-just consider that the vast majority of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were either Christians or deists. Many were deacons or elders in their churches, and many others were Sunday school superintendents and/or Sunday school teachers.
Even Thomas Jefferson, who is probably the most famous of all of our non-Christian founding fathers, himself advocated the teaching of the Bible and Biblical morality in schools.

I think the main concern many Christians have is that many atheists and secularists are trying to remove God and traditional morality from the public square, or at least make the subject of God and religion off limits or irrelevant.

By the way...I'm 1/4 Sierra Miwok from Central California.

Answer 2

we are all animals, and nature teaches us survival of the fittest. Christians coming here was exactly the same as Jews going to Canaan land. The heathens were here worshiping the sun, the moon, and the stars. They also worshipped nature and the beast of the field as gods, now do not get me wrong all that is proably better than what religions are doing today destroying our country, but we are not the same people that founded our nation. My people are from Mexico and proably lived here longer than most Americans also.
But prejudice means ignorance most of the time, and white people as a race have always done a better job of destroying the planet than any other race.
Your friend is right in a way though that the reason our country was blessed above all others is because we were a Christian Nation but you did not change that, people are changing because they see so much hypocracy in religions of this Nation. I can sum it all up in one sentence. The Love of Money. From the Bbile it says; 1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
You can see from the statement it was not you that corrupted this Nation but the Love of Money, and our politicians selling our country out for the weath of the Nation. Abraham Lincoln predicted a long time ago this Nation would never fall by foreigners forcing themselves upon us but from within, we would do it to our selves.

Answer 3

None has. I wasn't an alter boy or anything... Also wasn't born to a different religion at the wrong place or time... Pretty lucky that way. Actually, my father was a Christian, and he was kind of a douche... but I'm doing ok, so I can't say my life has been 'ruined' by him or anyone else. He's dead now, so you could say his life was ruined by liver cancer... Is cancer a Christian (or is it the other way around?)

Answer 4

The indigenous people who lived on the land now called America did not found the country. They lived on the land, but I suspect that they had their own name or names for it.

America was not founded as a christian nation, or on the christian bible, so this guy obviously doesn't know squat about American history. (I suspect he learned American "history" from his church, not history books, and he's probably never read the Constitution).

If what you want is for America to remain a secular nation, then you're not trying to change anything. It's the christians who want to make America a theocracy who do.

This guy should learn American history, because it's embarrasing for the rest of us when guys like him mouth off.

Could it be karma? No. I'm not superstitious.

Answer 5

Due to the fact that these
Christians use the Protestant Old Testament which is lacking 7 entire books 2 (Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus/Sirach, Baruch, I Maccabees, and II Maccabees), 3 chapters of Daniel and 6 chapters of Esther may be one of the reasons they ask catholics so many questions.

For the Sola Scriptura this is too bad .
In the 16th c., Luther removed those books from the canon that lent support to orthodox doctrine, relegating them to an appendix. Removed in this way were books that supported such things as:

prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45),

Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7),

intercession of dead saints (2 Maccabees 15:14),

and intercession of angels as intermediaries (Tobit 12:12-15).

The lesson, though, is this: relying on the "Bible alone" is a bad idea; we are not to rely solely on Sacred Scripture to understand Christ's message. While Scripture is "given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16-17), it is not sufficient for reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness. It is the Church that is the "pillar and ground of Truth" (1 Timothy 3:15)! Jesus did not come to write a book; He came to redeem us, and He founded a Sacramental Church through His apostles to show us the way. It is to them, to the Church Fathers, to the Sacred Deposit of Faith, to the living Church that is guided by the Holy Spirit, and to Scripture that we must prayerfully look.

Answer 6

You have moved to a country where ignorance, denial, and insularity are an integral part of it's identity.

You will likely meet religious fruitcakes at every turn, who only know ignorance, racism, denial and bigotry as a solution to any problem, or answer to any question..

Even those who aren't so religious are barely aware that there is a world oustide of their own insulated bubble of existance, however Sept 11 might've made the penny drop for some of them.

The whole world just hates Americans, largely due to the religious fundies and their antics..
Good luck, you'll need it..

Answer 7

America was founded by deists, NOT christians. Anyone who says otherwise is lying or was brainwashed by their pastor.

I am sorry you have encountered so many christian morons in this country. Please don't leave. We need more atheists.

Christian America, do you ever want a cure for cancer? Do you want to colonize other planets? Do you want to keep electricity and flushing toilets? Keep it up, screwing with our education system, putting in your worthless "creationism," and we will be the dumbest country on earth. What are you going to do when your rapture never happens? You will be stuck on a polluted ignorant planet that YOU made. Then YOU will be in hell.

Answer 8

america is not the only country with christians. i am from Singapore, and there are christians here too. in the middleeast too, in europe, in australia, in Asia.

christians are often persecuted and our way of lives disrupted in these countries: Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Myanmmar, Laos, Vietnam, China, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Yemen, Syria, Egypt, Somalia, France, Britain, America, and lots more.

Answer 9

the body of your message does not prove the question topic. You are speaking of one person of European descent and lumping him in to a group--'you Christians'.

Answer 10

this world is corrupted





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