Atheists, since there is considerable more evidence that Jesus lived in our history, why...?

Question

If there is considerable more evidence that Jesus lived in our history than there is evidence for the (big bang theory) how can you logically conclude that Jesus never existed but swear by the big bang theory? After all the big bang is only a Theory not proven fact.
This question is for Athiests who would accept God if He showed
Himself. As for the Atheist who say they would reject God to His face, your issues exceed the scope of this panel.

By the way Edward Witten really did say the "M" in his M Theory stands for Magic. I didn't make that up.

Answer 1

Just for consideration.There is a document from the court of pilate that dictates some of the events that are dictated in the bible concerning the trial of Jesus.My only issue with the big bang theory is where did everything start from.I find it is more probable that Divine intervention is possible than random chains of events that at some point should have some where recreated similiar lifeforms etc...Scientifically it is just too unlikely that things begun by happenstance.
The chances for things to work the way they do is such an incalcuable equation that it is only reasonable for people to feel that their was intelligent design involved.

Answer 2

Now, let start off with some of the things that you would need to know about scientific theories, theories are not used by scientist in the same way they are being used by the public. A science theory usually have strong evidence to back it up, such as the theory of gravity.
In the case of the big bang, the evidences for this are that when we look through a telescope into the sky, we can see that all faraway galaxies are all moving away from us in every direction. This leads us to one logical conclusion, that the universe is expanding. This then brings us to the theory that some time long ago, the universe was very compact and underwent a huge expansion that scientist today refer to as the big bang.

Anyway, another popular misconception is that atheists disagree 100% with any religion. As a matter of fact, a number of atheists thinks that there really is such a person as Jesus in history, just without all the miracles, and virgin birth, and resurrection, since these other aspects of his life never really have conclusive evidence. Jesus to any atheists would just be an ordinary man.

As for whether atheists would accept that there is a God if he would really show up on Earth, the answer for many of us would be surprisingly yes. As long as we can be sure that it is neither a hallucination or an illusion or a hoax, then there isn't much problems with us accepting that. It is just that there are so many religions in the world, what if it is not the Christian God that shows up, but a God of some other religion? But until then, I will still remain an atheist.

Answer 3

Exactly what evidence for the historical existence of Jesus are you referring to? Because, in spite of the fact that the Romans were known to be meticulous record keepers, no good evidence of Jesus' purported existence or crucifixion has yet seen the light of day. Whereas, the evidence for the big bang is available to anyone with a radio capable of tuning the right frequency. It's called the microwave background. Not a proven fact? You people wouldn't know a fact if you were repeatedly pummeled with one, nor do you have any idea what constitutes proof of one.

Answer 4

Boy is this rediculous.

First: there is not more evidence of Jesus than the big bang. You can point a radio telescope anywhere in the sky and hear the microwave radiation echos of the big bang. You can observe all the stars rushing away from each other, etc.

Jesus appears in a religious text and a few contemporary histories.

Almost no atheists believe Jesus did not exist. What you're doing is called a "straw man" argument, because you're assigning a rediculous position to people who do not actually make such a position, then you're beating it. It's pointless to try that, much like beating a straw man.

Atheists do not believe Jesus is the Son of God. That is entirely different than believing that he did not exist at all.

Have fun, kid, and study harder.

Answer 5

You are misinformed.

EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE is moving away from a central point in space just like it would if the had been a BIG BANG.

The existence of Jesus as a person, on the other hand, is under debate.

Now how is everything in the universe pointing to the big bang theory being correct LESS evidence that ONE BOOK written 1930 +/- years ago claiming a magic half man, half god existed?

Answer 6

There is no secular evidence that Jesus existed that dates from the time he would have lived. But it doesn't really matter if he did or not, because existing doesn't mean you're divine.

There is copious evidence for the big bang, but I don't see a connection between a guy maybe or maybe not existing and the beginning of the universe.

Gravity is a theory too, but that doesn't mean you can jump off a building. Electricity is a theory too, but your computer still works. Please look up the scientific definition of theory.

I don't know any atheists who would deny that god existed if he gave us some proof - like showing up. But that wouldn't be enough to make me worship him.

Answer 7

The light and sound from the Big Bang can still be observed.

On the other hand, there is absolutely no direct evidence, either physical or contemporary historical evidence, of any kind that anyone named Jesus or anyone that could have been Jesus ever lived. There is no description of what Jesus might have looked like from anyone who would have been alive to see him at the time Jesus was supposed to have lived. Similarly, there is not one word he might ever have spoken that was written down by anyone who could have been there.

No one knows who actually wrote any of Gospels, and whoever they were, even they never claim to have met the earthly Jesus, and the original manuscripts do not even exist. The earliest is probably Mark (70 C.E.), although no one knows who wrote it, where they wrote it, or exactly when they wrote it.

Paul's biblical letters are the oldest surviving Christian texts (60 C.E.). However, there occurs not a single instance in all of Paul's writings that he ever meets or sees an earthly Jesus, nor does he give any reference to Jesus' life on earth. The Gospel of John disagrees with events described in Mark, Matthew, and Luke; and it was written in Greek around A.D. 90-100.

Here is a question: Many of the statements attributed to Jesus claim to have come from him when he was alone – how do you figure that?

What about the ever-popular Jesus?

The Gospels claim that Jesus was well and widely known, not only by his many followers, but also Priests, Pontius Pilate, and Herod, knew "of the fame of Jesus" (Matt 14:1)" and that the multitude of people thought of Jesus as a prophet as well as a teacher, healer, and miracle worker (Matt:14:5).

(Matt: 4:25) states that "there followed him [Jesus] great multitudes of people from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judea, and from beyond Jordon." (Luke 12:1) speaks of, "innumerable multitude of people... trod one upon another" and, "fame abroad of him… and great multitudes came together to hear..." (Luke 5:15).

The persecution of Jesus in Jerusalem was such a big deal that the Prefect Pontius Pilate and the High Priest Joseph Caiaphas not only knew about it, but were part of it (Matt 21:15-23, 26:3, Luke 19:47, 23:13).

If this is all true, why is Jesus NEVER MENTIONED by any of these people? And, why are there NO RECORDS about any of this or even of ANYONE (Jesus or otherwise) having great multitudes of followers or going around performing miracles?

There is no record of a city, town or village called Nazareth until the 1st century A.D. It is not even mentioned in the detailed list of all the in towns in Galilee compiled by the historian Flavius Josephus; nor is such as place ever mentioned in the Old Testament.

There is no mention of Jesus, or anyone like him, in the records of Jerusalem or of the personal or official papers of Pontius Pilate (or any other Roman official). Similarly, there is no record of a crucifixion that could have been that of Jesus. The supposed darkness that fell upon the earth at the time he died was not mentioned by anyone anywhere on the planet, including Jerusalem itself.

If Jesus did live, no one at the time thought his live worth noting or documenting. If he was crucified in Jerusalem, no one seems to have cared, or even noticed.

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hey --

There were not any eyewitnesses. No one who has written about the Jesus character ever actually saw or talked to him.

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launicayoly --

So, Jesus told you all this stuff but he didn't mention anything about letting the rest of humanity in on it?

You didn't 'really' see him, did you? That's OK, no one ever has and no one ever will.

Answer 8

Jesus grew to become right into a pretty user-friendly call, so i pass to anticipate you propose the Jesus defined in the Bible. The Bible provides us some biographical archives. If a number of that archives could be shown to be fake, then the Jesus defined in the Bible did no longer exist. There could have been greater than a number of human beings whom the character grew to become into consistent with, however the Biblical character itself might in no way have lived. Jesus grew to become into born in the time of the reign of Herod the great, in accordance to Matthew financial ruin 2. Herod the great died in 4 BCE. He grew to become into additionally born mutually as Quirinius grew to become into governor of Syria, which did no longer initiate till 6 CE, in accordance to Luke (who additionally places the form in the time of the reign of Herod the great). it extremely is impossible for a actual existence guy or woman to have been born in the time of the reign of Herod the great and governorship of Quirinius. The conspicuous loss of information of the somewhat noteworthy activities that supposedly handed off in Jesus' existence point out that the thoughts approximately him are generally or completely fabricated. in case you do no longer propose the Jesus defined by utilizing the Bible, yet some derivation thereof, then the pertinent question is, "how little of the Jesus tale might could be precise for a historic guy or woman which you will think approximately the declare 'Jesus existed' actual?"

Answer 9

Who is saying that Jesus never existed. The origins of the Universe do not depend on the existence or otherwise of one man. Because some people choose to deify one ancient jew it doesn't mean that everybody else has to join in.

Answer 10

Evidence? Just because a lot of people have a cross or crucifix on their walls or around their necks and believe in the book, it does not constitute evidence, only belief.