What would you think of a "bible Christian" who doesn't know ?

Question

What would you think of a "bible Christian" who doesn't know Luke was not one of the first 12 apostles? I have a friend who likes to think he knows more than Catholics about Christianity because he claims to be a "bible believer" yet when I tested him with a naming of the apostles he couldn't and was so proudful that St. Luke was one of the 12 he only apologised to me after finding no gospel list in the NT which contained Luke.

BTW this man is a medical surgeon and prides himself on his educational background by I find he wants respect in fields of study he hasn't been trained for. I've come to understand there are more Catholics who are "bible Christians" than non-Catholics claiming to be.

Deirdre makes a valid point and you'll discover additional names like Nathanel and of course Mathias who replaces Judas Iscarot but you never find Luke when in reference to the 12 apostles as Luke came later as a disciple. Several of the 12 had secondary names but never Luke.

To the person asking if I think Catholics are better people or believers not particularly however I do think many more non-Catholics use the title "bible believer' like a mantra and aren't that secure in what they call "the Word".

Answer 1

so called "bible christians" seemingly miss alot of important things in the bible, for instance a large amount are so concerned with the rapture and they all miss the point of john 6 regarding the eucharist. not that john 6 is the only reason for the eucharist,the bible is laced with references to the eucharist and even the liturgical mass. for the eucharist references try www.scripturecatholic.com

i agree with your point on catholics being bible christians, i mean some need to learn scripture more but this is true in every area of christianity, your friend for example. the catholic mass is rooted in scripture line for line. i am glad our seperated brothers and sisters in christ earnestly seek the word of god but some need to relax on the misconceptions of catholicism and the oft heard declaration that catholics are not "bible christians" or even at times that we are not christian. i pray more of our seperated brothers and sisters in christ find "the journey home". god bless.

having read the other peoples comments i think they failed to see the point you were trying to make, you weren't judging your friend but simply made an observation. i know i don't know scripture all that well either but the friend was being pridefull about it, hopefully your test will have helped him to be more humble and study more.

Answer 2

Due to the fact that these
Christians use the Protestant Old Testament which is lacking 7 entire books 2 (Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus/Sirach, Baruch, I Maccabees, and II Maccabees), 3 chapters of Daniel and 6 chapters of Esther may be one of the reasons they ask catholics so many questions.

For the Sola Scriptura this is too bad .
In the 16th c., Luther removed those books from the canon that lent support to orthodox doctrine, relegating them to an appendix. Removed in this way were books that supported such things as:

prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45),

Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7),

intercession of dead saints (2 Maccabees 15:14),

and intercession of angels as intermediaries (Tobit 12:12-15).

The lesson, though, is this: relying on the "Bible alone" is a bad idea; we are not to rely solely on Sacred Scripture to understand Christ's message. While Scripture is "given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16-17), it is not sufficient for reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness. It is the Church that is the "pillar and ground of Truth" (1 Timothy 3:15)! Jesus did not come to write a book; He came to redeem us, and He founded a Sacramental Church through His apostles to show us the way. It is to them, to the Church Fathers, to the Sacred Deposit of Faith, to the living Church that is guided by the Holy Spirit, and to Scripture that we must prayerfully look.

Answer 3

Most Americans don't remember the 5 freedoms guaranteed by the first amendment either. Do you?

Many times, unless you are regularly using certain information, you can easily forget it. And sometimes the wrong details get stuck in our mind.

But I do feel those who claim to be Christians should know more about the Bible than they know about the NFL or NBA or NASCAR. It depends on which you read more - the Bible or the sports section.

Answer 4

there is not any "unique text cloth of the Bible". each faith commencing with the Roman Catholics began to take particular codices of the be conscious and those monks Canonized them as being the actual be conscious from God. How can that be while guy did the choosing and figuring out on of that have been the 1st rate "be attentive to God" and something grew to become into rubbish. guy won't be able to make that determination and that i do no longer care what sort of "humorous hat" he wears. My philosophy is Kindness

Answer 5

I wouldn't think much of it, as the Gospels don't agree on the entire list, nor do the original manuscripts of the Gospels. They get 11 of them the same, but the last could be Thaddeus or Judas (son or brother of James), not to be confused with Judas Iscariot.

Answer 6

I once knew a Christian who had no clue there was a book called Deuteronomy in the Bible and she claimed to have studied the Bible in college.

But I didn't judge her faith because of it. It's a big book with lots of tiny text. I'm sure it's easy to miss something here and there.

Answer 7

I think the key word here is "prideful."

God does not like is to be overly proud. He prefers us humble.

He may very well have known the answer at one time. But God would remove that memory just to knock him down a peg or two.

Answer 8

That's why you are suppose to read and study your bible,, o that when non-believers ask something about the Bible you should know the answer.. Part two,, you need to do the same so you can know when someone is truly teaching the Bible,, and not just twisting it to suite their needs,,,,

Answer 9

Interesting.
When under pressure, I have a hard time remembering easy to recall, should know this, information.
Probably also due in part to health trouble. My memory has been slipping increasingly, and it is so frustrating.

Answer 10

I don't think Jesus specified that we had to be Biblical scholars to be saved, only that we repented and are born again. Lots of Christians have not studied the word in depth...but we are suppose to hide the word in or hearts.