Best weapon for 1000 yard shots? .308, 7mm, or 30.06?

Question

This debate has been going on for a long time between me and some friends. I want to throw it out on a larger table to be picked apart.

Answer 1

I agree with you 100% that this has been going on for way to long !

To everyone who said the .308 or 30.06, I would wonder if they were still driving around in those Willy's Jeeps that are so tried and true. M1 = 30.06, yes was a great round for a long time and still is. .308 = Most kills for the sniper world, but had they had the 7mm RM, I assure you those records would have been from that round.

To get better you must adapt and advance. Thats what the 7mm Remington Mag is, an advancement. It holds better groupings at 1000yrds than the .308, 30.06, .300win, .338 Lapua Mag and so many more including the .50 BMG which everyone thinks is creame of the crop !

Heres a link showing some of the calibers compared in long range.

http://demigodllc.com/articles/practical-long-range-rifle-shooting-equipment/

The 7mm Remington Mag is the 1000 yard conventional caliber period. If you are looking for the best at 1000 yards then the 7mm is your choice. If your looking for what used to be, then by all means go with the .308 or 30.06.

Good Luck & Happy Shooting !!!!!

Answer 2

That is a lot of information to digest. I do believe the 7mm has been available to the military for some time now, yet it has still not been utilized as the caliber of choice for long range shooting when it really counts. The 7mm may group better than the .06 and the .308, and it is true that the 30.06 has long since been replaced by the .308 caliber. The M24 however does not offer the 7mm as a an option, .300 Win-Mag or the old Willey's style .308 are the preferred choices. I don't see too many 7mm-Mag's in the winners circle at 1000 yard events, and it is somewhat of a mystery unless it is more difficult to manage recoil and maintain consistency by manipulating the charge. I can only guess that the military still believes that the .30 cal. is more stable in flight under unpredictable conditions, and therefor stick to old school. Although it appears the evidence indicates that a 7mm outperforms both the 30.06 and the .308 when fired from a vice; it is apparent the military and BR shooters do not have that luxury. So, the question being, "what is the best weapon for 1000 yard shots" could be answered with questions; what are you shooting at and will the environmental conditions be ideal or variable. The 7mm is a ballistic monster, and I cannot explain why it is not a preferred caliber for military or BR applications, so one can only speculate the reasoning and wait patiently for someone to discover the reasoning. Until then, shoot what you like and be happy you can still see 1000 yards.

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Best weapon for 1000 yard shots? .308, 7mm, or 30.06?
This debate has been going on for a long time between me and some friends. I want to throw it out on a larger table to be picked apart.

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To the best of my knowledge, the 7mm RemMag does not hold any long range records. The .398 Winchester has many 1000 yard records to it's credit. The .308 caliber bullets will drift less in crosswindes than the 7mm RemMag bullets will. Another plus for the .308 is in powder use. With most powders, and similar bullet weights, the 7mm RemMag will take from one to three grains more powder to reach the same velocity as the .308. That means less powder burned, less pressure stress, less recoil, and longer life for rifle and barrel, and more comfort for the shooter. Doc Hudson

Answer 5

@quietlovableman Oh you were making head shots at 1000 yards with the M40A1 and it was basic and fairly easy? You can hold at half inch group at 600 yards and it was second nature to you? So youre saying that the Marine corps had a rifle in 1982 capable of a tenth of a MOA? I guess my actual time in the Marines and working with snipers has all been a lie. I guess the fact that at best an M40 will hold a half of a minute of angle is a lie. Little did we know that at 1000 yards you aim for the head. Quit watching so many movies. At that distance you aim for center mass. If you were even in the Marine Corps you sure as hell weren't a sniper and even if you were, you're telling the biggest lie any sniper has ever told. Stop missleading the general public who don't know any better.

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Answer 7

My brother use a .308 for 1000 yard competitions.

Answer 8

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Answer 9

I don't really take 1,000 Yard Shots that often, but I believe that the .308 would be the most accurate for the distance, but the 30.06 definately has more Knock-down Power, but I am not furmiliar with the 7mm.

Answer 10

Consistant 1000 yard or meter shooting; go with the 30/06. The scoped 06 Garand is still in use as a 1000 yard sniper rifle in various places around the world; when you have a small group of targets you can nail three or four before they know what is hitting them. Love that Garand.