If god created everything?

Question

Then where did god come/what created him/her/it?

And, after you give me the wonderfully inadequate "god was always there," please answer the following as well. If it makes sense for god to have always been there, then why does it not make sense for the universe to have always been there? In other words, if god doesn't need a creator, why should the universe? Or, could one perhaps say that the universe is god?

(Note: If you can provide a less woefully inadequate answer to the first question, the others may not apply to you. Though, seeing the kinds of questions I pose, you may be able to anticipate a few that I might respond with and answer those as well.)

When I speak of the universe, I do not necessarily mean in its current state. Obviously it had other states before its current ordering, and will have others after this one. Whether these states follow the same rules as the current is inconsequential to my question.

Answer 1

God created the universe and humans so that he could love them and be loved in return. Creation is a way of showing the beauty of who he is. Those who have trouble getting the whole aspect of God and Jesus are thinking with a human mind. Humans aren't meant to get it all now. We don't know the ways of God and aren't meant to until the end times when all will be revealed. God is not a natural being. He is supernatural. Most humans can't grasp the concept of the supernatural.

Answer 2

Since people keep asking the same questions all of the time, then I know that no one is actually reading these answers, but I will attempt to answer anyway.

It does not make sense for the universe to "always been there" because of the Second Law of Thermodynamics that dictates that all physical systems move from order to disorder. Since the universe is falling apart, so to speak, then it must have had an initial cause to create the initial order. The universe cannot be "timeless" because if it was, then it would have lost all of its order due to entropy by now, and we wouldn't be here, since the stars and planets all decay and fall apart eventually.

By-the-way, if you say that entropy works only on "closed" systems, that doesn't solve the problem; it simply implies that the universe itself must be part of a larger system. So, what is this larger system, and why does physical laws (such as entropy) not apply there as well as here?

Since God is not a physical being, then he himself is not subject to physical laws, like entropy.

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...The idea that God can be eternal leads us to the idea that maybe the universe is eternal, and, therefore, God doesn't need to exist at all. Actually, this was the prevalent belief of atheists before the observational data of the 20th century strongly refuted the idea that the universe was eternal. This fact presented a big dilemma for atheists, since a non-eternal universe implied that it must have been caused. Maybe Genesis 1:1 was correct! Not to be dismayed by the facts, atheists have invented some metaphysical "science" that attempt to explain away the existence of God. Hence, most atheistic cosmologists believe that we see only the visible part of a much larger "multiverse" that randomly spews out universes with different physical parameters.1 Since there is no evidence supporting this idea (nor can there be, according to the laws of the universe), it is really just a substitute "god" for atheists. And, since this "god" is non-intelligent by definition, it requires a complex hypothesis, which would be ruled out if we use Occam's razor, which states that one should use the simplest logical explanation for any phenomenon. Purposeful intelligent design of the universe makes much more sense, especially based upon what we know about the design of the universe....


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"Obviously [the universe] had other states before its current ordering, and will have others after this one. "

That is actually a statement of faith, since there is no physical proof of either past states, or future states, of the physical universe.

If you can assume on faith alone that the universe is timeless, and can pass through multiple states, then why can't you just assume the same about God?

Answer 3

God is called called God for a reason. He's all powerful and has always been there. He doesn't need a creator as you said. It goes beyond our mind on how God was created. See it this way, It's like a circle, it doesn't have a begining or an end, and it always keeps on going.
I would rather believe God was always there and created the universe and us than to believe that NOTHING exploded and created EVERYTHING, and soon things evolved and you came from a monkey. There is more glory and pride thinking that you are created by an almighty powerful God than evolving from monkeys.
So answering your question, the human mind can not fathom God's creation. This is one of those questions that will only be answered when we get to heaven, if you get to heaven. So until then we will be killing ourselves trying to find the answer.

Answer 4

Your problem is this: the physical universe is subject to the law of cause and effect. There is no effect without a preceding cause. God is outside the law of cause and effect, and not subject to it. That it is why the 'God was always there' makes more sense than the 'the universe was always there' argument.

You, sir, are left with an explanation for the existence of the universe which is just as absurd as the old 'turtles all the way down' hypothesis.

Answer 5

In the first place, it's God with a capital "G". And yes he has always been there, since the beginning of time. The universe has not always been there cuz the universe is a thing. All things are created from a superior being. Therefore, since no one has been here other than God, it was God who created the universe.

Answer 6

Great question. It is almost impossible for us to conceive infinity, because we are conditioned to being subjected to time.

"Everything" is all-inclusive. This means that there is nothing outside of God. If you continually expand your mind to include every, everything continually, then God IS everything. There is nothing we can conceive of that isn't within God. God must therefore be the summum bonum of all that is, was, or ever will be. When you get to the boundary of your imagination, the very edge of the possible expansions of space, time, and void, that is also God. Where did space come from? We can reply, "Space just IS". God just IS, and everything else is the product of God.

And yet, that is but ONE aspect of God. God also has a personal form, an identity, a name, a personality. In the Srimad Bhagavatam, a great sage asked God, "Where did you come from"? God replied, "From my mother and father". Of course, God Himself created His own mother and father, as a pastime, for His own pleasure.

I recommend reading the vedas, the ancient sanskrit texts of India. They are remarkable in their explanation of God.

Answer 7

You're asking creationists right? Becuase we believe in God? I don't understand..what kind of answer are you looking for? That's what creationists believe...that God was always there...so..uhm...what do you want to hear then? So I'm gonna go ahead and give the "woefully inadequate" answer of....drum roll...God was always there.

Answer 8

God transcends time itself so he can exist at all times and does not involve a cause and effect relationship requiring a creator

Science shows that the universe didn't used to exist. (Big Bang remember) The universe does exist in a temporal reality so the rules of cause and effect apply to it.

If it now exists, then something had to cause it to exist.

We call the something God.

The real question you should be asking is " Is God an active part of our lives today ? "

Answer 9

Wait just one minute..

You cannot ask this question hoping the creationists won't regurgitate their "He is the Alpha and Omega" canned answers. Seriously, have you seen their illogical answers? "He has always existed." I think they type this stuff before their brains even realize what's happening.

If you make them think outside the box, their heads will explode. And who's going to clean that up? Not I!

Answer 10

It is not god that created the universe.. It is God..