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what is an extreme? is there a time when he/she can be told no? what is the difference between a discipline and humiliation?

2007-06-13 06:18:33 · 9 answers · asked by Maryalice9 1 in Politics & Government Military

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"It's clear, under military law, that military members can be held accountable for crimes committed under the guise of "obeying orders," and there is no requirement to obey orders which are unlawful. However, here's the rub: A military member disobeys such orders at his/her own peril. Ultimately, it's not whether or not the military member thinks the order is illegal or unlawful, it's whether military superiors (and courts) think the order was illegal or unlawful."

If you receive an order that is not illegal but you think may be inappropriate, (1) request the order in writing, (2) elevate your concerns up your chain of command. If there isn't time to do (2), obey the order and then elevate your concerns up the chain of command.

2007-06-13 06:35:04 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

If you are an enlisted person in the Navy, any Naval officer can give you a direct order. If you are also a Naval officer, the officer giving the order must be superior in rank to you. The officer does not have to be in your chain of command to be able to give you an order, and you have a duty to obey all LAWFUL orders given by your superior officers. The key here is the word LAWFUL. A Naval officer cannot order you to surrender or commit any UCMJ punishable offense, and he/she cannot order you to perform tasks that would be for his/her personal benefit (e.g., cleaning his/her house, picking up his/her dry cleaning, etc.). If you ever have any question as to whether an order is lawful, speak with the JAG officer. As for discipline vs. humiliation, that's really hard to define without knowing specifics. Taking you to the mast is discipline, but making you walk around the post with your pants down around your ankles and your thumb in your mouth (like Pvt. Leonard "Gomer Pyle" Lawrence in Full Metal Jacket) is humiliation. If you think you have a case for humiliation, talk it over with the JAG officer -- cruelty and maltreatment by officers is a UCMJ punishable offense (Article 93, UCMJ, as found in Part IV, Manual for Courts-Martial United States 2005 Edition).

2007-06-13 06:29:41 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

A subordinate is required to obey legal orders. If the order is illegal ("Shoot those prisoners and let's go"), then there is an obligation to disobey them.

A discipline is to correct behavior that is substandard.

Dan: Being put in harms way is part of the game. An officer (or NCO, or whoever is above you) CAN order you into a situation where you are in extreme danger to life or limb. If the order is legal, such as being ordered to take your gas mask off to see if a chemical agent has been cleared, soldiers/sailors/airmen/marines MUST obey it.

2007-06-13 06:28:12 · answer #3 · answered by BDZot 6 · 2 1

The only time you can question a direct order from an officer is if you feel you are in harms way. Other then that, just do what you are ordered or you can be brought up on charges of disobeying an officer. If they really want to push the situation.

2007-06-13 06:27:55 · answer #4 · answered by DanKohner 4 · 0 2

Yeah, form of. you may want to be sensible no longer to piss off the draw close chief. He knows better than you, and has the seniority and respect of the crew. As I realize it, he's basically the captain of the enlisted adult adult males. i'm no longer contained in the army, so my answer might want to nicely be way off base. yet as a rule officials outrank enlisted, besides the very incontrovertible truth that the army is slightly extraordinary the way it handles that stuff. The Captian of the boat, for instance, can overrule an admiral on concerns of his own boat, yet he is going to capture vast hell for doing so. This got here about in WWII, i have self belief, even as the Captain of a seriously damaged airplane provider threw an admiral off his boat for ordering the adult adult males to desert deliver. The captain ordered his adult adult males to proceed struggling with the fireplace and ultimately kept the vessel that limped its long in the past to port for upkeep. Had he no longer kept the provider, his occupation might want to probably were over. be conscious the following, who the adult adult males easily followed. so a methods because the unique question is in contact. even as the ensign does outrank the draw close chief, the draw close chief can make the existence of the ensign a living hell extraordinarily truly. And the crew, extraordinarily the enlisted, will probably keep on with the draw close chief if he right away contradicts the order of an ensign because the draw close chief has been round a lot longer and has "earned his stripes" with the objective to speak. respect is earned, no longer given.

2016-11-23 17:45:39 · answer #5 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

a Naval Officer can give you any legal order at any time they darn well please. even if you are not in their direct chain of command.

Yopu of course have the option to disobey, as long as you are willing to accept the consequnces of doing so.

2007-06-13 11:23:49 · answer #6 · answered by Mrsjvb 7 · 1 0

You are required to follow all lawful orders. If you do not think it is a lawful order go to your direct chain of command.

Semper Fi!!!

2007-06-13 08:27:13 · answer #7 · answered by Russ H 2 · 1 0

you need to start following orders and stop questioning them

2007-06-13 06:22:26 · answer #8 · answered by LAVADOG 5 · 0 1

WHENEVER I GODDAMN PLEASE, MAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

2007-06-13 06:28:12 · answer #9 · answered by dohcraw 2 · 0 3

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