Are you concerned that fundamentalist Christians do not value human life...are they really pro-life?

Question

Read their postings regarding pessimism, moral decay and their general attitude on the state of the world. It is very depressing and quite creepy. Most are all doom and gloom. They for some reason, do not want to look at the beauty of God's creation in the world, but want to focus on man's failures in the world....they have their sight on man, not on God.

These people say they are Christians, but where is the joy that is supposed to be exuding from them?

From their postings, it appears that most are very depressed individuals...could fundies, possibly be in need of psychological counseling?

If they truly valued human life, wouldn't they have a more positive outlook on it?

If the world is truly as bad as they say it is, why do they claim to be pro-life? Wouldn't the child be better off in heaven?

I am truly perplexed by the negative/bad attitudes of these people? Are they truly Christians at all?

Your thoughts?

Answer 1

Fundies have a "fundamental" need to rally around something to keep their beliefs in check. If they don't have any real crises around which to rally, they invent some.

Answer 2

"Read their postings regarding pessimism, moral decay and their general attitude on the state of the world."

You are confusing matters a bit. Knowing that the world is in a state of sin and acknowledging that does not equate to pessimism. In fact a Christian is the ultimate optimist. We know that all of this will have a good ending. As for moral decay and the state of the world. These are Biblical facts which you can see all around you. You don't even have to be religious to acknowledge the sinful state of the world.

"These people say they are Christians, but where is the joy that is supposed to be exuding from them?"

Reading someones response to specific questions on this website does not give you a picture of their 'joyfullness'. Yes, a Christian should be a joyful person. But that does not mean they walk around with a botox grin on their face and just tell you happy things that you want to hear. Jesus preached plenty of warning along with the exhortation. The truth is often not pleasant to hear.

"If they truly valued human life, wouldn't they have a more positive outlook on it?"

People are born in sin. We are all sinful. This is a fact. Having said that nothing is more important than human life. "Hate the sin not the sinner". Jesus was anti-sin, not anti-life.

"If the world is truly as bad as they say it is, why do they claim to be pro-life? Wouldn't the child be better off in heaven?"

We would all be better off in heaven. That is the point of showing God's love to each other while we are here, *and* preaching the truth. To help one another get to heaven.

"I am truly perplexed by the negative/bad attitudes of these people? Are they truly Christians at all?"

You are trying to reject the truth by rejecting those who preach it. As for whether any individual is a true Christian or not. Judgment is up to God.

Answer 3

oh, you bring up some valid points here.

First, let's take the key issue here - their salvation. As a fundamentalist, I've read the Bible, and from what Jesus says and the other apostles, I believe that salvation comes not only from accepting Christ as your savior, but also having a relationship with Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. That means that if you specifically choose to walk away from God, he loves you enough not to force you to go to heaven. However, you don't lose your salvation just because you make a mistake - losing your salvation is a deliberate choice (such as a person who later becomes an atheist).

However, some of my fellow fundamentalists are hung up on the once saved always saved theology and think that if they have said the right prayer, they are saved and that's all that matters. No, take a look at Revelations 21 and look at who will enter heaven - it says nothing about those who have accepted Christ as savior, but it talks about the morals. That, and so many other scriptures show me that salvation is more than saying a prayer - it's about walking a righteous life.

But living a righteous life is where so many Christians misunderstand what God wants for us. Salvation and our relationship with God involves walking in the fruit of the spirit (love, joy, peace, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance). So, I believe that God wants us to have a positive outlook. Philippians 4:7-9 says that best.

As far as the pro-life stance. We value all human life. The philosophy of well, if the baby won't have a good quality of life, we should abort it, is downright dangerous. Think about what you are saying there and the slippery slope that leads to. If someone doesn't have a good quality of life, let's treat it like we do our pets - let's put it to sleep. If we say that any baby that won't have a life in a good home should be aborted, how do we know that the baby cannot have a good life? That mindset allows no potential for that child to ever have a life - because we abort it.

The slippery slope, if it continues, would state that a baby after birth should be aborted if it is severely malformed. What then, if the baby after birth has no quality of life, we destroy it. Do we then destroy children, older adults, and others who are not of a certain quality of life - who should decide that???

That is why many of us are opposed to abortion and to euthanasia - because it means that we allow others to choose the value of other's human life. If another person feels that their life is of sufficient quality - we can terminate that life.

While you say, no, that won't happen and you're taking this mindset to extremes. Realize that our morals are changing faster and faster all the time. What happens when a person becomes elderly and their quality of life means that they are a burden on others. Do we terminate their life? What if it is your life who now is a burden to others, and who defines what the burden is? That's a value judgment and one person's version of a burden may be very different from another. And it can lead to someone being terminated for very minor reasons because another person doesn't want to be burdened with caring for them.

That's why we value all life and why we do not believe in deciding who has the right to live or die.

Answer 4

I am a fundamentalist Christian and I value human life. I am very much against abortion. The Lord is returning to renew the heavens and the earth. This is a world without end folks.

Christ will rule and reign and the Lord will live among us. Why a joyful time it will be.

The attitudes that you are seeing is against the ungodly and those with the spirit of the antichrist which are trying to remove every aspect of our Lord Jesus Christ from the USA.
Let me remind you of a Scripture verse 2 Timothy 3:16
"All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

You would like, as Hitler wanted, all the ones unlike you, be put away. You've suggested psychological counseling and I have Christian counseling.

I have life and I have life more abundantly than you know.

If you cannot see moral decay my friend, then you are blind and cannot see.

Answer 5

In addition to that, why do Christians claim to be pro-life when most are ok with death penalty and war? If you're TRULY going to follow the "thou shall not kill" commandment, then the other two should also go hand in hand with that. There are no disclaimers on the commandments.

I am not a Christian but I'm sick of Christians molding the bible and their religion to whatever they feel fit.

In addition, I've also thought (regardless of WHAT your take is on abortion, whether you're pro-choice or "pro-life") why would they care? The embryo will never experience the pain of life and if they would simply "go to heaven" what's the big deal? If an unwanted pregnancy goes to completion and the child grows up, that child could possibly be damned to hell someday depending on their choices whereas, if the pregnancy was aborted early on, there is no chance of hell.

(I'm not pushing a for/against abortion agenda, just helping to make a point. I'm agnostic so, I don't believe in hell but, again, just making a point)

Answer 6

I'm not saying I'm for abortion at this time but I did consider it when I was a teen. To say that a person who would abort a child doesn't value life is ludicrous. Every situation is different and to try to put them all in one box is wrong. Do not judge a situation unless you've been through it. I knew a thirteen year old who was gang raped and her mother forced her to have the child. How could you force that on someone so young who didn't ask for it. Now she has all kinds of female problems. I believe life is sacred but I also believe that you should never try to force your beliefs on someone else.

Answer 7

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Answer 8

We are ALL sinners in NEED of the Savior (Romans 3:23 & Romans 6:23)

I didn't decide that the world was bad.....God did.

Where do you see a bad attitude in us trying to get people to turn to Christ for salvation?

Answer 9

I am concerned that most humans are not pro human life at all.

Answer 10

I completely agree with you. This topic has been done to death and my general conclusion is that fundies have the inability to think outside of black and white concepts.