John baptized with water, but Jesus baptizes with the Holy Ghost. Acts1:5
Acs 2:36-38 Israel had crucified Jesus who is the both the Lord & Messiah. They were convicted and then Peter told them Repent in& be baptized every one of them in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins (Jesus shed His blood for remission of sins & without the shedding of pure blood there is no remission of sins (Jesus said at Last Supper & in Hebrews),, & ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Eph4:4-6 There is One body & One Spirit, even as you are called in the hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, One faith, One Baptism, One God & Father of all, who is above all, & through all & in all.
There are two baptisms, one in water & one of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit would be the baptism Jesus baptizes with. The water baptism is done at the foundation of repentance. It is the act of faith where many are born of God by also verbally confessing Jesus Christ Lord & believing in their heart the resurrection. See, the act of going down is dieing to old sin man (repentance). This is dieing to flesh lusts that rule us. It is Jesus shed blood for the remission of our sins. That is why we are baptized in the Name of the Father, Son & Holy Spirit. We are raised up spiritually quickened. As long as this act was with faith in the resurrection. The quickening is the spiritual birth. The new man in Christ.
One is born of God when quickened in the spiritual birth. The Holy Spirit is with person & will baptize person (fill person). So, since water baptism isn't necessary to be born again (many are born again this way), But the baptism is the baptism of the Holy Spirit. In the New Testament, some Christians were filled with the Holy Spirit before being water baptized at times. The water baptism is a foundational act, but the Holy Spirit is with us forever & renews us in the Spirit as we mature in Christ.
So, back to the first question. There is One Church of Christ that is presently divided up into different denominations. The devils tares in the Churches is what calls the disunity. One Body of Christ is the Church & is everyone who is born of His Spirit in different Churches of Christ. There is one baptism & I believe this is the baptism Jesus baptizes with, the Holy Spirit. Everyone born of God, drinks from the same spirit, One Holy Spirit. Also this is the same spirit & brings unity in Christ, for the Holy Spirit agrees with the Gospel & everything Jesus said.
See, you have the Trinity explained in Eph. The Spiritual baptism in the body of Christ, The Lord who purchased us with a price(His shed blood for remission of our sins), and The Father God who is above all, with all & in all.
Tbone is wrong. Jesus further explained (Jn3) that being born of water is mothers waterbag. Just like to explain that the first person is born flesh, the second man is born of Gods Spirit, a spiritual birth. Tbone is preaching a Mormon doctrine & not a Christian doctrine.
2007-06-13 05:10:53
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answer #1
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answered by LottaLou 7
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The imagery and symbolism of marriage is applied to Christ and the body of believers known as the church. These are those who have trusted in Jesus Christ as their personal savior and have received eternal life. In the New Testament, Christ, the Bridegroom, has sacrificially and lovingly chosen the church to be His bride (Ephesians 5:25-27). Just as there was a betrothal period in biblical times during which the bride and groom were separated until the wedding, so is the bride of Christ separate from her Bridegroom during the church age. Her responsibility during the betrothal period is to be faithful to Him (2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:24). At the Second Coming of Christ, the church will be united with the Bridegroom, the official "wedding ceremony" will take place and, with it, the eternal union of Christ and His bride will be actualized (Revelation 19:7-9; 21:1-2). At that time, all believers will inhabit the heavenly city known as New Jerusalem, also called “the holy city” in Revelation 21:2 and 10. The New Jerusalem is not the church, but it takes on the church’s characteristics. In his vision of the end of the age, the Apostle John sees the city coming down from heaven adorned “as a bride,” meaning that the inhabitants of the city, the redeemed of the Lord, will be holy and pure, wearing white garments of holiness and righteousness. Some have misinterpreted verse 9 to mean the holy city is the bride of Christ, but that cannot be because Christ died for His people, not for a city. The city is called the bride because it encompasses all who are the bride, just as all the students of a school are sometimes called “the school.” As believers in Jesus Christ, we who are the bride of Christ wait with great anticipation for the day when we will be united with our Bridegroom. Until then, we remain faithful to Him and say with all the redeemed of the Lord, “Come, Lord Jesus!” (Revelation 22:20). Recommended Resource: The Church in God's Program by Robert Saucy.
2016-05-19 01:34:10
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answered by ? 3
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OK, the first question first -- I believe that "one church, one body, one baptism" has the same connotations as circumcision would be in the Old Testament -- and that of circumcision/baptism of the heart, not of the formula.
The role of baptism is tied very closely to salvation, sometimes indistinguishable from it as in the verses you've quoted. In the Old Testament, circumcision was the mark of being one of God's people. In the New Testament, baptism is a mark of being one of God's people. No difference, only the administration of the covenant is changed. This makes the rite one that is owned by God, not us. Yes, it is a profession of faith, but that aspect of it is merely a byproduct of an ingrafting into Christ that points to his atoning work for us.
2007-06-15 15:05:54
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answered by ccrider 7
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Due to the fact that these
Christians use the Protestant Old Testament which is lacking 7 entire books 2 (Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus/Sirach, Baruch, I Maccabees, and II Maccabees), 3 chapters of Daniel and 6 chapters of Esther may be one of the reasons they ask catholics so many questions.
For the Sola Scriptura this is too bad .
In the 16th c., Luther removed those books from the canon that lent support to orthodox doctrine, relegating them to an appendix. Removed in this way were books that supported such things as:
prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45),
Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7),
intercession of dead saints (2 Maccabees 15:14),
and intercession of angels as intermediaries (Tobit 12:12-15).
The lesson, though, is this: relying on the "Bible alone" is a bad idea; we are not to rely solely on Sacred Scripture to understand Christ's message. While Scripture is "given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16-17), it is not sufficient for reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness. It is the Church that is the "pillar and ground of Truth" (1 Timothy 3:15)! Jesus did not come to write a book; He came to redeem us, and He founded a Sacramental Church through His apostles to show us the way. It is to them, to the Church Fathers, to the Sacred Deposit of Faith, to the living Church that is guided by the Holy Spirit, and to Scripture that we must prayerfully look.
2007-06-14 15:46:50
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answered by cashelmara 7
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The verse means the exact opposite as what is happening today. I don't think God, or early Christians, ever envisioned this many separate denominations. They wanted the church to be unified, but we're anything but that. We all hate each other from different religions.
I think Baptism is just the simple act of accepting your sin and acknowledging you want to repent of it and turn away. But, that's what my separate denomination teaches me. Many others don't think that.
2007-06-13 04:42:14
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answered by Anonymous
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There are two baptisms - one of water and one of the Spirit. John the Baptist said, " I baptize with water, but the one who comes after me baptizes with water and the Spirit." He was talking about Jesus Christ. Jesus said the world will know we are Christians by our love for one another. He also said, Other sheep have I who are not of this fold."
2007-06-13 04:42:20
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answered by Anonymous
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As believers, we have been "baptised" into this faith.
Baptism is not a requirement for salvation...it is the outward sign of the inward change.
We are to be one body of believers...with Christ as the head.
Salvation come right at the point that we believe (Ephesians 1:13-14)...we were sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise at that moment.....it is not a process.
2007-06-13 04:40:18
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answered by primoa1970 7
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John 3
1There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
In the water-and-Spirit rebirth that takes place at baptism, the repentant sinner is transformed from a state of sin to the state of grace. Peter mentioned this transformation from sin to grace when he exhorted people to "be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:38).
The context of Jesus’ statements in John 3 makes it clear that he was referring to water baptism. Shortly before Jesus teaches Nicodemus about the necessity and regenerating effect of baptism, he himself was baptized by John the Baptist, and the circumstances are striking: Jesus goes down into the water, and as he is baptized, the heavens open, the Holy Spirit descends upon him in the form of a dove, and the voice of God the Father speaks from heaven, saying, "This is my beloved Son" (cf. Matt. 3:13–17; Mark 1:9–11; Luke 3:21–22; John 1:30–34). This scene gives us a graphic depiction of what happens at baptism: We are baptized with water, symbolizing our dying with Christ (Rom. 6:3) and our rising with Christ to the newness of life (Rom. 6:4–5); we receive the gift of sanctifying grace and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 12:13; Gal. 3:27); and we are adopted as God’s sons (Rom. 8:15–17).
After our Lord’s teaching that it is necessary for salvation to be born from above by water and the Spirit (John 3:1–21), "Jesus and his disciples went into the land of Judea; there he remained with them and baptized" (John 3:22).
If one is not baptized how do they receive that state of grace? Baptism is necessary for salvation
2007-06-13 04:50:50
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answered by tebone0315 7
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Sectarian in nature.Not denominational.
2007-06-13 07:36:15
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answered by Trish 6
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"One body there is, and one spirit, even as YOU were called in the one hope to which YOU were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all [persons], who is over all and through all and in all." (Eph. 4:4-5)
Baptism: The word “baptize” comes from the Greek ba·pti′zein, meaning “to dip, to plunge.” (A Greek-English Lexicon, by Liddell and Scott) Christian water baptism is an outward symbol that the one being baptized has made a complete, unreserved, and unconditional dedication through Jesus Christ to do the will of Jehovah God. The Scriptures also refer to John’s baptism, baptism with holy spirit, and baptism with fire, among others.
Do persons who really believe God’s Word hold back from being baptized? Matt. 28:19, 20: “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you.” Acts 2:41: “Those who embraced his word heartily were baptized.” Acts 8:12: “When they believed Philip, who was declaring the good news of the kingdom of God and of the name of Jesus Christ, they proceeded to be baptized, both men and women.” Acts 8:36-38: “Now as they were going over the road, they came to a certain body of water, and the [Ethiopian] eunuch said: ‘Look! A body of water; what prevents me from getting baptized?’ With that he commanded the chariot to halt, and . . . [Philip] baptized him.”
Christian water baptism—is it by sprinkling or by complete immersion? Mark 1:9, 10: “Jesus . . . was baptized [“immersed,” ED, Ro] in the Jordan [River] by John. And immediately on coming up out of the water he saw the heavens being parted.” Acts 8:38: “They both went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized [“immersed,” ED, Ro] him.”
Does Christian water baptism result in forgiveness of sins?
1 John 1:7: “If we are walking in the light as he himself is in the light, . . . the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.” (Thus, not baptismal water but the blood of Jesus cleanses us from sin.) Matt. 3:11: “I [John the Baptist] . . . baptize you with water because of your repentance; but the one coming after me [Jesus Christ] is stronger than I am, whose sandals I am not fit to take off.” (Verses 5, 6, also Acts 13:24, show that what John did was directed, not to all people, but to the Jews. Why? Because of the sins of the Jews against the Law covenant and to prepare them for Christ.) Acts 2:38: “Repent, and let each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins.” (Did the baptism itself bring forgiveness to them? Consider: This was stated to Jews who shared responsibility for the death of Christ. [See verses 22, 23.] Their baptism would give evidence of something. Of what? That they now put faith in Jesus as the Messiah, the Christ. Only by their doing this could their sins be forgiven. [Acts 4:12; 5:30, 31])
Acts 22:16: “Rise, get baptized and wash your sins away by your calling upon his name.” (Also Acts 10:43)
Who is baptized with holy spirit? 1 Cor. 1:2; 12:13, 27: “To you who have been sanctified in union with Christ Jesus, called to be holy ones . . . For truly by one spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink one spirit. Now you are Christ’s body.” (As Daniel 7:13, 14, 27 shows, such “holy ones” share in the Kingdom with the Son of man, Jesus Christ.) John 3:5: “Unless anyone is born from water and spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” (A person is ‘born from spirit’ at the time of his baptism with that spirit. Luke 12:32 shows that only a “little flock” have that privilege. See also Revelation 14:1-3.)
Jehovah’s Witnesses have strong convictions about religious doctrines, and they manifest solid values in the matter of morals. Like the apostle Paul, they are convinced that there is only “one Lord, one faith, one baptism.” (Ephesians 4:5) They are also aware of Jesus’ words: “Narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.” (Matthew 7:13, 14) Still, they do not try to force others to follow their beliefs. Rather, they imitate Paul and “beg” all those who so desire to “become reconciled to God.” (2 Corinthians 5:20) This is the better way. It is God’s way.
While we cannot change the world, we can as individuals cultivate godly values even today. Thus, we can try to be the kind of people that God will want as his worshipers in that new world. We will then be among the meek referred to by the psalmist: “The meek ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.” (Psalm 37:11) God supports and blesses those who do his will, and he promises wonderful things for their future. The apostle John said: “The world is passing away and so is its desire, but he that does the will of God remains forever.”—1 John 2:17.
2007-06-13 05:31:21
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answered by Anonymous
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