Jehovah Witnesses - where is the verse in the bible that says Jesus was Michael the angel?

Question

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1 Thessalonians 4:16 - does not say that is the voice of Jesus.

I frequently enter a stage to speak with the voice of the host. To conclude I am the host is illogical.

Tom and Joe enter a room with Joe speaking. Since Tom entered the room with the voice of Joe, is Tom also Joe. Not at all.

Answer 1

Actually there is not a single verse in the Bible that says this.

Try searching with online versions of the Bible and you will see for yourself. Best of luck

Answer 2

Firstly, it should be noted that an "archangel" is not the peer of mere angels.

Christendom has pretended that Gabriel is also an archangel, and that Satan had been; both ideas have no foundation in Scripture. Some religions invent names for four or five additional supposed "archangels"; those invented names have no foundation in Scripture. "Archangel" actually means "Chief of the Angels"; the fact remains that the bible itself speaks of only one single solitary archangel. The Scriptures never use the term "archangel" in the plural, but only in the singular.

Who is a better person than Jesus to be the single "Chief" of all faithful angels? Of whom can it be said that faithful angels belong to him, or are "his"?
2 Thes 1:7 Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels
Rev 12:7 Michael and his angels battled


The bible certainly teaches that the archangel Michael is the same person as Jesus.


Note that Jesus the Lord calls with an archangel's voice:
1 Thes 4:14-16 Jesus died and rose again, so, too... the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice


Do two different persons present themselves during a time of "distress" such as has "not occurred" before?

Dan 12:1 And during that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of your people. And there will certainly occur a time of distress such as has not been made to occur since there came to be a nation until that time.

Matt 24:3-21 Disciples [asked Jesus] what will be the sign of your presence...?" And in answer Jesus said to them: "...All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress. ...for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world's beginning until now


Do two different persons both lead the heavenly armies?

Rev 19:13,14 [Jesus] is The Word of God. Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him

Rev 12:7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled


Once you study it, the bible really teaches that Michael is another name for Jesus. Though the term may confuse some, Jesus can properly be called an "archangel" or an "angel" (though not a mere angel) or a "son of God" or a "morning star" (though not a mere 'morning star'). Interestingly, the Scriptures refer to *ALL* angelic spirit creatures as "morning stars" (not just Jesus or Lucifer). Note that the archangel Jesus is uniquely elevated above mere angels by the title "the BRIGHT morning star".

Job 38:4,7 When [Jehovah] founded the earth... When the morning stars [or "angels"] joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause

Rev 22:16 I, Jesus... I am the root and the offspring of David, and the BRIGHT morning star. [caps added]

Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/20050422/article_01.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/19951101/article_02.htm

Answer 3

Nice try but you are misquoting the verse, by trying to say the archangel is someone else.

Notice, Wescostt & Hort

1 Thess 4:16 Greek word for word

"The same Master in shout of command (Order) in voice of chief messenger (archangel)"

No it is Jesus who is commanding as God's Chief Messenger.

Emphatic Diaglott

"Himself the Lord with a command, with a voice of a chief messenger"


The verse Reads 'The Lord himself . . . with the archangel's voice"

And Jehovah's Witnesses are accused of taking things out of context.

By the way,

Where does Jesus say "I am God"?

Answer 4

It says in no where..It only says that Jesus said "with an archangels voice"..that is the only scripture that they use to back this up with. Makes no sense. I believe that if Jesus were Michael ..God would have mentioned that somewhere. That's pretty important stuff..also, I wonder how they explain the scripture..Hebrews 1:5 For which of the angels did God ever say, "You are my Son; today I have become your father? Or again, "I will be his Father and he will be my Son..and verse 6. And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him..7. In speaking of the angels he says. "He makes his angels winds, his servants flames of fire. 8. But, about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever, and righteousness and hated wickedness, therefore God, your God, has set you about your companions, by anointing you with the oil of Joy..
That entire chapter goes on to talk about Jesus and angels..

Answer 5

Does it ever say trinity?
The truth is, if you really want to know who the only archangel is. (there's only one) Study.

I am not a member the Jehovah Witnesses or any religious group.
Be well

For Lynne44
That's right, he now has aurthority over them.(Arch-angle)
Who was the first born of creation?
And what was his name?
Be well

Answer 6

At 1 Thessalonians 4:16 the voice of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ is described as being that of an archangel, suggesting that he is, in fact, himself the archangel. This text depicts him as descending from heaven with “a commanding call.”

It is only logical, therefore, that the voice expressing this commanding call be described by a word that would not diminish or detract from the great authority that Christ Jesus now has as King of kings and Lord of lords. (Mt 28:18; Re 17:14)

If the designation “archangel” applied, not to Jesus Christ, but to other angels, then the reference to “an archangel's voice” would not be appropriate. In that case it would be describing a voice of lesser authority than that of the Son of God.

There are also other correspondencies establishing that Michael is actually the Son of God. Daniel, after making the first reference to Michael (Da 10:13), recorded a prophecy reaching down to “the time of the end” (Da 11:40) and then stated: “And during that time Michael will stand up, the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of [Daniel's] people.” (Da 12:1) Michael's ‘standing up' was to be associated with “a time of distress such as has not been made to occur since there came to be a nation until that time.” (Da 12:1)

In Daniel's prophecy, ‘standing up' frequently refers to the action of a king, either taking up his royal power or acting effectively in his capacity as king. (Da 11:2-4, 7, 16b, 20, 21) This supports the conclusion that Michael is Jesus Christ, since Jesus is Jehovah's appointed King, commissioned to destroy all the nations at Har–Magedon.—Re 11:15; 16:14-16.

The book of Revelation (12:7, 10, 12) specifically mentions Michael in connection with the establishment of God's Kingdom and links this event with trouble for the earth: “And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled. And I heard a loud voice in heaven say: ‘Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down . . . On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea.'”

Jesus Christ is later depicted as leading the heavenly armies in war against the nations of the earth. (Re 19:11-16) This would mean a period of distress for them, which would logically be included in the “time of distress” that is associated with Michael's standing up. (Da 12:1) Since the Son of God is to fight the nations, it is only reasonable that he was the one who with his angels earlier battled against the superhuman dragon, Satan the Devil, and his angels.