How many find this discovery as a cheap way to make fuel for vehicles?

Question

Do you think this will be taken farther and actually find a way to use this for the replacement of gasoline?

Water burns!
Man looking for cancer cure hopes to solve energy crisis


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Posted: May 30, 2007
5:00 p.m. Eastern


By Joe Kovacs
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com
Is the solution to America's energy needs as simple as a trip to the beach?
The idea is a fascinating one as a Florida man searching for a cancer cure may have stumbled onto a virtually limitless source of energy: salt water.
John Kanzius, 63, is a broadcast engineer who formerly owned several TV and radio stations, before retiring in Sanibel Island, Fla.
Five years ago, he was diagnosed with a severe form of leukemia, and began a quest to find a kinder, gentler way to treat the disease compared to harsh chemotherapy.
In October 2003, he had an epiphany: kill cancer with radio waves. He then devised a machine that emits radio waves in an attempt to slay cancerous cells, while leaving healthy cells unharmed.
His experiments in fighting cancer have become so successful, one physician was quoted as saying, "We could be getting close to grabbing the Holy Grail."
But in the midst of his experiments as he was trying to take salt out of water, Kanzius discovered his machine could do what some may have thought was impossible: making water burn.
"On our way to try to do desalinization, we came up with something that burns, and it looks in this case that salt water perhaps could be used as a fuel to replace the carbon footsteps that we've been using all these years, i.e., fossil fuels," Kanzius said.
The possible ramifications of the discovery are almost mind-boggling, as cars could be fueled by salt water instead of gasoline, hydroelectric plants could be built along the shore, and homes could be heated without worrying about supplies of oil.
"It doesn't have to be ocean salt water," Kanzius said. "It burns just as well when we add salt to tap water."
Kanzius has partnered with Charles Rutkowski, general manager of Industrial Sales and Manufacturing, a Millcreek, Pa., company that builds the radio-wave generators.
"I've done this [burning experiment] countless times and it still amazes me," Rutkowski told the Erie Times-News. "Here we are paying $3 a gallon for gas, and this is a device that seems to turn salt water into an alternative fuel."
Kanzius has been told it's actually hydrogen that's burning, as his machine generates enough heat to break down the chemical bond between hydrogen and oxygen that makes up water.
"I have never heard of such a thing," Alice Deckert, Ph.D., chairwoman of Allegheny College's chemistry department, told the Times-News. "There doesn't seem to be enough energy in radio waves to break the chemical bonds and cause that kind of reaction."
Thus far, Kanzius' discovery has not received extensive national publicity, but has been featured on several local television news programs, including WPBF-TV in West Palm Beach, Fla., WSEE-TV in Erie, Pa., and WKYC-TV in Cleveland.
"We discovered that if you use a piece of paper towel as a wick, it lights every single time and you can start it and stop it at will by turning the radio waves on and off," Kanzius told the Times-News as he watched a test tube of salt water burn.
"And look, the paper itself doesn't burn," he added. "Well, it burns but the paper is not consumed."
Kanzius said he hasn't decided whether to share his fuel discovery with government or private business, though he'd prefer a federal grant to develop it.
"I'm afraid that if I join up with some big energy company, they will say it doesn't work and shelve it, even if it does work," Kanzius told the paper.
Video of TV news reports of water burning can be seen from these affiliates:
WPBF-TV in West Palm Beach, Fla.
WSEE-TV in Erie, Pa.
WKYC-TV in Cleveland

Answer 1

It takes energy to break the hydrogen oxygen bond in the water.

It takes electrical energy to make the radio waves that he is using to break the hydrogen bond.

Currently commercially available equipment used to produce hydrogen electrolytically from water operates at 70% efficiency and requires 50 Kilowatt Hours of electricity to produce one kilogram (2.2 pounds) of elemental hydrogen.

This is an amount of hydrogen that has an amount of energy equivalent to one gallon of gasoline.

If the equipment were operating at 100% efficiency the amount of electricity required to produce one kilogram of elemental hydrogen would be approximately 35 Kilowatt Hours.

The best that you can hope for is that the radiowaves are made to operate at a higher efficiency than 70%, but even at maximum 100% efficiency it will still require 35 Kilowatt hours of electricity to produce 1 kilogram of elemental hydrogen.

That is still a lot of of electricity.

Answer 2

It would be interesting to see water "burn", but breaking water into Oxygen and Hydrogen is endothermic (absorbs energy), not exothermic (gives off energy). So it "sounds like" ... pun intended ... the radio waves are supplying the energy to break the bonds in the water and then the H2 + O is burning, but the net energy is coming from the radio waves, not from the water. Though if using salt and radio waves makes cracking water more efficient, it could have value in a future H2 based market.

Answer 3

Alt. fuel is great in theory, and with time may be developed as a supplement (not replacement for gasoline). It all has to do with economy of scale. Making it cost effective. Right now, ethanol made from corn cost more to produce than the current price of gasoline. There is also something else to consider. Currently ethanol is typically mixed with your gasoline as a 10% mixture. Higher percentages of ethanol in your gas (as proposed by some legislators) will work fine in your car, but will make your engine run hotter - thus creating a new market requirement for higher temp. engine oils, and reduced life of certain engine components. Also, it puts a strain on the corn stockpile supplies as many corn contracts to foreign countries are already committed for delivery at a predetermined price. Making corn more expensive as a food supply and ingredient component for many foods.

Answer 4

You people are idiots especially YOU Holden and Mike...

Hydrogen elementally is cracked at 120 percent efficiency according to this guy. ( Yes notice that SHOULDNT be possible in your second Law BS under your misapplied law..Ie its overunity...and proovably so, actually. Elemental hydrogen DOES NOT contain the energy released when 2atom form is created, and it ALSO DOES NOT RETAIN this or require it to split back to elemental Hydrogen... Now IF this is true, someone is LYING their asses of about this fundamental fact, and for good reason... Hmmm )

Check this guy out http://ttzlibrary.yuku.com/topic/531/Ether

Answer 5

Water is a product of combustion.

It takes more energy to break apart the bonds between the H and the O in H2O than you get from burning it once the seperation is made.

It's called the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

Sorry, there is no free ride.

Answer 6

"Burn water as fuel" scams have been around for 50 years.

They don't work. Never have and never will.

It takes more energy to get the hydrogen out of the water than the energy you get by burning the hydrogen.

Perpetual motion is impossible.

Answer 7

i am still skeptical because if it was a really mind boggling discovery then it would have made it to the front page of major news organizations worldwide. i just read it today in the sub-category of green living where the top answerer has only 24 best answers to his credit.

Answer 8

if it works build some plants to use it.
(I'm sure it needs more tests)