How many misled people believe that God would condemn someone to eternal hell?

Question

Acording to the Ancient Vedas, there is a hell, but no one can go there eternally. It is just a place to get ones very bad karma and they take birth again on the earth planet again when their time is up. One must understand karma, reincarnation, and no one goes to hell eternally to understand the unlimited mercy and love of God. Even Jesus taught these things, but Evil King Constantine took them out for his own idea, to controll the citizens. Fact. write me for the site to prove it.

There is no eternal death either. That is a bogus idea also. NO one dies, only the body dies. So many misunderstandings in the so called Bible. Read the original Bible, Then you will understand the Truth and so can others.

So many fanatics. Bla Bla Bla Brainwashed. Can't see truth when it is spoken to you so clearly. You condemn everyone to eternal hell and no one wants your religion any more.

Answer 1

According to Orthodox, traditional Judaism, there is a place we go for no more than 12 months where we burn off our karma if we so choose. Then we can reincarnate or rejoin with Creator, whatever we choose. The burning off of our karma consists of realising and feeling the pain of everything and everyone we hurt during our lives, including ourselves, and this is said to be EXTREMELY painful, yet if one doesn't come out of this experience having learned compassion to the point of tearing one's own flesh before hurting someone else (when back in the body, having retained that memory and the learned - or relearned - compassion).

There is no such thing as an eternal hell in Judaism, never has been. Judaism has always had reincarnation, in fact there are books describing what people Jewish sages have reincarnated as throughout their lifetimes.

Judaism has no idea of Original Sin - this concept is a twisted interpretation by Christianity of the episode in the bible. Jews think the Christian idea of Original Sin is disgusting and an insult to our Creator.

Jews believe that every human being is born with a clean slate as far as being able to choose to walk the path of selfishness OR selfLESSness, whichever they choose according to their own soul's levels of wisdom, understanding, compassion, knowledge, etc.

By the way, there is no historical proof that Jesus ever existed, no writings from that time mentioning him at all.
The majority of Jews at that time lived outside the land of Israel and never heard of him at that time either.

There is one mention in writing by Josephus but it has long ago been proven to have been a fraud inserted later on by someone trying to advance the agenda of proof for Jesus.

There is one other mention by a Roman historian named Tacticus, but he gets it all wrong, and in fact his historical writings are in question not just for that, but he couldn't even get many facts correct about Julius Caeser in his writings.

Other than that, there are NO historical writings from anyone, anywhere in the world at that time, that mention Jesus, not in any language and not by any name he would have been known by in any language.

Interesting, for someone who was supposed to be the Messiah for the entire world, eh?

Anyway, it's said that the ideas of reincarnation, etc., were actually taken to the area where the Vedas were written, by Abraham's other sons (besides Isaac who didn't leave but stayed to give birth to Jacob who then gave birth to the 12 Tribes of Israel).

Abraham sent his other sons he had by Keturah (also known as Hagar, formerly Sarah's handmaiden) with "gifts" to the "East countries", and it is written that these gifts were the knowledge of reincarnation, karma, etc.

The term "Brahmin" originated by this, and is the top social caste in India even today.

If you want to know more about the history of the roots of Christianity which are NOT based in Judaism whatsoever, but are based on ancient paganism such as Mithraism, there is a good site that has put much of the information together, although you can find it anywhere.
http://www.drazin.com

Start with the brown bar across the top where it says "Table of Contents" and then "Introduction" and click on that, and that's actually a menu space that has continuing chapters. When you finish with "Introduction" go on and read the rest, including "The Ancient God-Men". There really is almost nothing in Judaism that is the same as any foundation in Christianity whatsoever, and that's because Christianity doesn't actually get its foundations from Judaism.

The example you cite of reincarnation is just ONE thing - almost NOTHING is the same in Judaism and Christianity, but how many people know any religious Jews who are educated in Judaism to ask them these things? Almost no one. Check it out!

Answer 2

Well, the fact that you don't believe much of what the Bible says makes me wonder why you're effectively writing your own ending, but here goes anyway. The reason Biblically that people can miss out on paradise despite morality is because no matter how good we act, we're not perfect. That is not to say that Christians who do accept everything in the Bible are, not by a long shot, but it does mean that Jesus payed the price for their sins (a perfect being dying for every imperfect one). True, you might be a good person, but let's put that into perspective. Let's say morality could be measured by something visible, say height. In this theoretical world, if you were really moral, you'd be like 7 feet tall. Pretty big difference compared to someone who's 4'9, huh? What if the two of you were compared to the heigh of mount Everest? Suddenly a 2'3" difference doesn't seem so great, huh? That's the idea here. Even the most moral person is so far from perfect it's not funny. They're only "good" in relation to those around them, and God, as a perfect being, can't accept anything less then perfect (if He did, He'd be less then perfect himself). So it's not really about being good, it's about being forgiven. Good deeds are great, but they're still particularly clean rags next to the perfection of, say, a pile of gold (I LOVE analogies XD). Nothing we can do on our own is enough to counter the sins we've committed, compounded with the inherited corruption (Original sin) and the nature to commit sins. Again, forgiveness is what's needed, not a feeble attempt to pay back a debt we can't even comprehend fully. You have the right to choose whether or not to believe. If you didn't, there would be no free will. There'd just be a bunch of robots worshiping God, and that doesn't mean anything. However, just because you have that choice does not necessarily mean that you won't regret it at a later point.

Answer 3

Depending on who you chose to believe, there are different types of afterlife. Take me for example. I don't believe in a soul or that there is any conscious part in living creatures that carries on beyond death. If I decided to write a book and assemble a following, there would be others who believe that way too. Just because it is written somewhere doesn't make it true. I'm not saying you are wrong, or that the Bible is wrong, or that the ones you claim misquoted the Bible are wrong, but I am saying that anyone could be right.

Ironically, only one group can be right. Who is right we'll find out after death. And if I'm right, then no one would find out they were right. They wouldn't even find out they were wrong. But I take refuge in my view because I don't think that we would ever be in a position to go "Haha, I told you so," when it comes to the subject of afterlife. And the only way that could happen is if there isn't one. Such are my reasons.

There is no point in telling me I'm wrong or misguided because it is what I believe. And believing something means that you support it, even if you may be wrong. You just don't care. :P

Answer 4

Depends on your concept of Hell.

"Heaven and hell are conditions within our own beings."


"In the final analysis, heaven can be seen
partly as a state of nearness to God; hell is a
state of remoteness from God. Each state follows as
a natural consequence of individual efforts, or the
lack thereof, to develop spiritually. The key to
spiritual progress is to follow the path outlined
by the Manifestations of God."

Answer 5

According to scripture, we by our own choices and actions condemn our selves to Hell. Jesus gave the ultimate sacrifice that all mankind might be saved from Hell. The only thing required of us is to believe in that Sacrifice and the Saviors redemption of us. Sadly, you'd be amazed how many refuse to believe. There for sending them selves to that eternal Hell.

Answer 6

The New Testament Tells us. Check it out. It is for real.I do not believe in Karma or reincarnation. Just plain old Bible.

Answer 7

You are correct... hellfire is designed for destruction not eternal torment. Of course, the end result is eternal death. Which means the cessation of life not ETERNAL LIFE IN HELL.

Read Ezekiel 28:19 ,Obadiah 16, Zephaniah 3:8, Malachi 4:1

Answer 8

You are right to say that hell as eternal suffering is fictitious. Hell, or 'gehenna' is a place of destruction, not eternal existence. This is found in the Bible and there is no need to refer to other sources.

Answer 9

CARLOYN_T . i have to agree with on this as well hell is a very real place many think it.s just made up but god dont lie as well read in proverbs as well revelation.21. vs. 7 my opion ? ref<. gods word. bible?

Answer 10

God doesnt condemn peoples souls its the persons fault for not choosing the life God chose for them to live and its their fault for wickedly sinning.