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Since you all say that Jesus is the most High God...and in the bible it says that God cannot die. How did Jesus die for 3 days. And please don't say it was his human half. Just admit that the trinity is false.

There is no way possible that Jesus can be God....

- Jesus died God cannot die
- Jesus was created God was always here
- Jesus says repeatedly i am the son
- Jesus says repeatedly all praise to Jehovah
- Jesus says repeatedly me and the father are NOT 1
Yet we have these false beliefs going around that they are one.

2007-06-05 15:18:47 · 45 answers · asked by PW 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Some of yall need to watch the attitude level...because I do not believe in the trinity and I know jesus is Gods son....Im a JW...so im trying to find out why people believe in this MAN MADE belief.

2007-06-06 02:56:51 · update #1

People... there is no word trinity in the bible.
Jesus says that he is the son of God...Jehovah was never a man, jesus was.

And i can sit here and say that me and my dad are one in a sense because i am from him....but physically we are not. same w/ God. Physically they are not one.

2007-06-07 06:50:46 · update #2

45 answers

Trinitarians tend to respond erratically to questions regarding the shaky foundations of their philosophy. Typically, trinitarians pretend that the only alternative (if Jesus is not Almighty God the Father) must be that the belief that Jesus was a mere human prophet.

Yet to the true Christian (such as a Jehovah's Witness) mindset, Jesus is so glorious and highly exalted that it actually sounds odd to even HEAR Jesus called "a prophet" as though that were the first (or tenth) most important part of Christ's role in the Divine Purpose (of course, Jesus was and is a prophet, in addition to being the agent who created the entire universe!).


No Jehovah's Witness would EVER pretend that Jesus was a mere human prophet. Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians who teach that Jesus Christ was and is divine and of the same nature as God.

Jehovah's Witnesses teach that no salvation occurs without Christ, that accepting Christ's sacrifice is a requirement for true worship, that every prayer must acknowledge Christ, that Christ is the King of God's Kingdom, that Christ is the head of the Christian congregation, that Christ is immortal and above every creature, even that Christ was the 'master worker' in creating the universe!

Jehovah's Witnesses love and respect and honor Christ. But Jehovah's Witnesses recognize the bible truth that Jesus the Son is distinct from and not equal to God the Father (see Scriptures below).

As mentioned above, Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the Scriptures quite plainly demonstrate that Jesus and the Almighty are separate distinct persons, and the Almighty created Jesus as His firstborn son.

(Colossians 1:15) the firstborn of all creation

(Mark 10:18) Jesus said to him: 'Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.

(Revelation 3:14) the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God

(Philippians 2:5-6) Christ Jesus, who, although he was existing in God's form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God

(John 8:42) Neither have I come of my own initiative at all, but that One sent me forth

(John 12:49) I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak

(John 14:28) I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am

(1 Corinthians 15:28) But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him

(Matthew 20:23) this sitting down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father

(1 Corinthians 11:3) I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; ...in turn the head of the Christ is God

(John 20:17) I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.

(Deuteronomy 6:4) Jehovah our God is one Jehovah

(1 Corinthians 8:4-6) There is no God but one. For even though there are those who are called "gods," whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many "gods" and many "lords," there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him

Thanks again for an opportunity to share what the bible actually says about the distinct persons of Jesus Christ the Son and Jehovah God the Father!

Learn more!
http://watchtower.org/e/ti/
http://watchtower.org/e/20050422/
http://watchtower.org/e/20020515/
http://watchtower.org/e/pr/index.htm?article=article_04.htm

2007-06-06 06:36:05 · answer #1 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 0 0

first of all Jesus is not the most high God. He is the son of God and there lies the difference. God all powerful all knowing created a son, sent him here in the flesh so he can show and lead us by example. When he died on the cross for our sins, he died in the flesh but arose in 3 days. It was God's will to let it happen and it was God's will to never let it happen again, not even death could hold him. What bible did you read that mentions the word trinity? It seems to me people do a lot of repeating of what others say, but if they truley opened up the bible, they would not say half of the things they say. The bible states for those who read it that the father and I are one which means if a husbnd and wife share the same thinking they also would be considered one, not the same person, but the same thinking.Thus becomes one in thinking.

2007-06-05 15:56:15 · answer #2 · answered by the voice of truth 2 · 0 0

Jesus and God are two seperate beings. God is the Creator of all living things and Jesus is the Son of God, the only perfect human. He could die beause he was human. I think the Trinity is, well, absurd. Those who believe it do not read the Bible properly. As you said, Jesus said "I am the son," "All praise to Jehovah," and when Jesus repeatedly prayed to His Father. Was he talking to himself?

2007-06-05 15:26:21 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Colossians 2:9
"For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form."

John 1:1
"In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God."

John 1:14
"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father full of grace and truth."

John 1:18
"No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known."

1John2:23
"No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also."

John 8:58
"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"

John 14:9
Jesus Answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, "Show us the Father?'"

Revelation 1:8
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

Revelation 1:17
When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: "Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever!" And I hold the keys of death and Hades."

Revelation 4:8
...
"Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God almightty, who was, and is, and is to come."

Isa 9:6
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders, and he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

Wow, why would they call the born son the exact same names as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?

Because of an awesome truth. Refer again to the top verse...Col 2:9.

Jesus is Lord of All.

2007-06-05 16:00:49 · answer #4 · answered by Just David 5 · 0 1

Jesus died because he was human and was born without the original sin. Jesus can't be God because he's not a god but the "Son of God". God ressurected Jesus and brought him back to Heaven. Oh, did you noticed that "God" is more like a title than a name? How can you know a person if you don't know his name? This includes God(whose name is Jehovah). God could be references to other mythical gods. You should be careful of which god you mean.

2007-06-05 15:30:52 · answer #5 · answered by MGSLover 2 · 1 0

Jesus is part of the trinity, therefore he is God but not the head of the three. Father God put Jesus on earth to die for all our sins and the only way he could do that was to have him die. But he didn't actually stay dead, he rose again! And now he's in heaven with God, sitting at the right hand.

2007-06-05 15:23:55 · answer #6 · answered by Catherine 3 · 1 2

i don't believe in the trinity and i don't believe that the father son and the holy ghost are all separate and co equal. they are all jesus at the same time. jesus tells the disciples if you have seen me you have seen the father. the bible tells us that god robed himself in flesh and came to dwell among us. there are many more scriptures but i know you will get tired of such a lengthy answer and stop reading.

2007-06-06 06:45:57 · answer #7 · answered by carly sue 5 · 0 0

"Jesus says repeatedly me and the father are not 1"???

That is incorrect. Jn 10:30: "I and my Father are one" Also Jn 17:21.

These scripture clearly shows Jesus is God:
John 1:1,14 "The Word was God""The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us"

Titus 2:13: "Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and Savior, Jesus Christ."

God cannot die because He is a spirit. Spirits can't die. Death simply means separation. When you die your spirit is separated from your body. Eternal death is simply separation from God in Hell. Death isn't termination, just separation.

Jesus is Emmanuel (God with us - more proof that Jesus is God). The Bible says He was made flesh. His death was a separation of His spirit from His body. Since death could not hold him down(being that He was sinless), God raised him from the dead. He picked up His body out of the grave, appeared to Mary, and ascended into Heaven (In His body, which is now glorified - like all of us will have one day). He then later appeared to the disciples and many others.

Not hard to understand now, is it?

2007-06-05 15:40:37 · answer #8 · answered by Hal_Chaffee 1 · 1 1

Jesus was God manifested in the flesh. His human side HAD to die in order for pure blood to be shed for the sins of all mankind for all time! The Bible says "I and my Father are ONE" meaning that God, being omnipotent can send Himself down to flesh to redeem flesh, resurrect in a GLORIFIED body and return to the Father and be as whole as He ever was!

2007-06-06 06:51:05 · answer #9 · answered by bigvol662004 6 · 0 0

God became Man to die. If were called to worship Jesus and God says to have no other gods before Him we can conclude God and Jesus are equal.

JOHN 10:30 -I and the Father are one.

2007-06-05 15:27:31 · answer #10 · answered by Dawn-Marie 5 · 0 1

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