Why do people keep saying Jesus is a myth when...?

Question

How can people say Jesus is a myth? I'd like to see proof hje is a myth against my proof. people on answers keep saying He is a myth, and it's so annoying. If He's a myth, why is my sister still alive from her disease? Do you think you'll have a better chance of gettig into heaven if you say this? If you were a dying person, would you still believe He was a myth if you saw an angel? If you were haunted by a spirit and prayed about it and the spirit is gone, do you think He's a myth? Do you have any proof He is? I've experienced all of these things and i'm sure at least one of you out there has. So answer my question, Do you think He is a myth and why?

Answer 1

Last time I got sick, I didn't take any medication. Wouldn't you know it, but my cold went away in four to five days. Should I praise God for that?


No. Humans are fairly good at fighting disease on their own.

Answer 2

>How can people say Jesus is a myth? I'd like to see proof hje is a myth against my proof.

You have no proof, but this should get you started:

What's the origin of the Jesus stories?
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen048.html
http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/jesus.html

> people on answers keep saying He is a myth, and it's so annoying.
It's probably annoying to you because you refuse to think about it.

> If He's a myth, why is my sister still alive from her disease?
Sometimes people make it, sometimes they don't. It doesn't prove the existence of any supernatural entity, and certainly not a specific one.

Do you think you'll have a better chance of gettig into heaven if you say this?>
No; heaven does not exist.

> If you were a dying person, would you still believe He was a myth if you saw an angel?
Oxygen-starved brains tend to manufacture hallucinations.

> If you were haunted by a spirit and prayed about it and the spirit is gone, do you think He's a myth?
There are no spirits; that's a childish belief.

> Do you have any proof He is?
The burden of proof is on the believer. Do you have any proof goblins are a myth? Dragons? Pixies?

> I've experienced all of these things and i'm sure at least one of you out there has.

You haven't experienced angels or spirits; you just think so.

Read The God Delusion, understand religion, and be freed from it forever.

Answer 3

Jesus is a myth because he is a figure in a set of religious scriptures and there is no verifiable evidence that he ever existed. Your sister's survival isn't proof of Jesus, sorry. Proof of faith, proof of the work of doctors, proof of sheer coincidences, maybe, but Jesus himself? Sorry, but no.


>If you were a dying person, would you still believe He was a myth if you saw an angel?

Yes, because, in my faith, there are angels and not Jesus.


>Do you have any proof He is?

A myth? Yes, lots. Here's a definition for the word "myth":
>1. a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, esp. one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
2. stories or matter of this kind: realm of myth.
3. any invented story, idea, or concept: His account of the event is pure myth.
4. an imaginary or fictitious thing or person.
5. an unproved or false collective belief that is used to justify a social institution.Do you have any proof that he isn't a myth?

Jesus, in my opinion, falls into all of the definitions here.


If faith in Jesus brings you spiritual joy, that's a marvelous thing, but for others, he is a myth, just as other gods are myths to you.

Answer 4

I think this is where people of faith can differ from those without it. The notion that Jesus *must* exist because your sister did not die is circular logic. And not at all convincing.

It would be like me saying, my house has never burned down because I have a fire extinguisher in my kitchen. Ok.. that would be reasonable.. if I'd ever had to put out a fire with said fire extinguisher. It simplifies the truth, which is that I've never had a fire in my house because I am careful to prevent one.

Your sister not dying is not proof of Jesus' existence any more than that fire extinguisher has kept my house from burning down.

If I saw an "angel" while dying, and I was lucid enough at the time to contemplate it, I would think that my mind was affected by my illness or medication.

Answer 5

Stop... you need to rethink this. Do you believe Zeus is a myth? I know Pagans who follow him, talk to him and have had life changing experiences just like your sister has.

BTW, I have been on my deathbed once..... I didn't call for Jesus.

I have experienced many things within my own religion... Paganism. In no way does your experience make mine less valid... just as mine does not make yours less valid.

Stop to think about these things from another persons perspective and you might see Why they think these things. Or at least understand it a little better.

I don't think Jesus was a Myth... I do believe that the story of his death and resurrection was something added later (the earliest manuscripts do not have the ressurection in it). Just like walking on water, turning water into wine... Pagan godmen had been doing that for centuries before Jesus was even born.

Answer 6

If I were to guess, I might guess that there was a holy man named Jesus in palestine 2000 years ago. There might not have.

Walking on water, raising the dead, resurection - myth. No extra-scriptual evidence to confirm that anyone has ever been resurected.

There is no contemporeneous acconts of the life of Jesus. The earliest Gospel was written a minimum of 40 years after JC's reported death.

Answer 7

...sweetheart, none of the things you asked about prove anything. I have not experienced any of these things, and I've never seen anything that even seemed to hint at the work of a deity.

I don't believe he was a myth. But I also do not believe he is a deity of any sort. He was a mystic who died 2000 years ago.

Answer 8

I don't know your sister, so I certainly can't say why she's alive. Some suggestions:

Medicine
Dumb luck
Magic
Aliens
Other deities

If I saw an angel, I would believe in angels.
That's like asking if I saw a hippopotamus would I believe that zebras are real.

Answer 9

Hi,

I too have experienced all of these...and something more tooo....

but i dont believe in Jesus.. I just consider him as a prophet..

My point is, such things happen even if you have belief in other systems and other Gods...

Its boring that you people still believe that only Jesus can do such things...

If you have firm belief in God ... any miracle can happen in your life...

By the way am not a Christian.. am some one who has a very different system of belief..

Answer 10

I think if you saw an angel you were going through something tragic and were dillusional. even if it wasn't tragic, you're still dillusional. Your sister is alive maybe not b/c science was able to help her, but we do not know everything about the human body. Something obviously altered in her body and had nothing to do with an imgainary dude up in the puffy clouds.

Answer 11

Is your sister surving her disease without medication or medical intervention, and by prayer alone? Whatever the cause of her survival, I'm glad for her and you. But I bet there are a few other people more directly involved in her healthcare than a long-dead Judean carpenter. You should thank them first.