Trinity is fake.God and Jesus (pbuh) Christ are not one and the same person. Proved. Agree?

Question

The same person can be a father, a brother and a businessman at the same time.
But suppose the sister of that man tells him a secret, it is but natural that the father and the businessman also will know about it.
Contrary to this, Jesus (pbuh) has said in the Bible, in the Gospel of Mark, chapter 13 verse 32
"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."
Here the knowledge of the hour is only known to the Father and not to the Son, indicating that God and Jesus (pbuh) Christ are not one and the same person.
A human being can be a father,a brother,and a businessman at the same time, but if the brother dies, even the father
and the businessman will die.Thus, when the Christians say that Jesus (pbuh) died on the cross they will have to agree that
God and the Holy Spirit also died.
Please come 2 the TRUE WORD OF GODcalled Qur'an.
Remember
There is no god but Allah, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the messenger of Allah

Answer 1

Biblical Prophecies on the Advent of Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon Him), The Prophet of ISLAM.

The Biblical prophecies on the advent of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon Him) are evidence of the truth of ISLAM for PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE ON the BIBLE.

In Deuteronomy 18, Moses stated that God told Him: '' I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. If anyone does not listen to my words that the Prophet speaks in my Name, I myself will call him to Account. '' (Deuteronomy 18:18-19)3

From these verses we conclude that the prophet in this prophecy must have the following three characteristics:
1) That He will be like Moses.
2) That He will come from the brothers of the Israelites, i.e. the Ishmaelites.
3) That God will put His words into the mouth of this prophet and that He will declare what God commands him.

Now let us examine these three characteristics in more depth.

1) A Prophet like Moses:
There were hardly any two prophets who aere so much alike as Moses and Muhammad (peace be upon Him). Both were given a comprehensice law and code of life. Both encountered their enemies and were victorious in miraculour ways. Both were accepted as Prophets and statesmen. Both migrated following conspiracies to assassinate them. Analogies between Moses and Jesus overlook not only the above similarities but other crucial ones as well. These include the natural birth, the family life, and the death of Moses and Muhammad (peace be upon Him) but not that of Jesus. Moreover, Jesus was regarded by his followers an the Son of God and not exclusively as a prophet of GOD, as Moses and Muhammad (peace be upon Him) were and as Muslims Believe Jesus was. So, this prophecy refers to Muhammad (peace be upon Him) and not to Jesus, because Muhammad (peace be upon Him) is more like Moses than Jesus.
Also, one notices from the Gospel of John that the Jews were waiting for the fulfillment of three distinct prophecies: 1) The Coming of Christ, (2) The Coming of Elijah, 3) The coming of the Prophet. This is obvious from the three questions that were posed to John and Baphist: '' Now this was John's testimony, when the Jews of jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who her was. He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, 'I am not the Christ.' They asked him, 'Then who are you? Are you Elijah?' He said , 'I am not. ' 'Areyou the Prophet?' He answered, 'No''' (John 1:19-21). If we look in a Bible with corss references, we will find in the marginal notes where the words''the Prophet'' occur in John 1:21, that these words refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18:18.1 We conclude from this that Jesus Christ is not the prophet mentioned in Deuteronomy 18:18.

2) From the brothers of the Israelites:
Abraham had two sons, Ishmael and Issac (Genesis 21). Ishmael became the grandfather of the Arab nation, and Issac became te grandfather of the Jewish nation. The prophet spoken of was not to come from among the Jews themselves, but from among their brothers, i.e. the Ishmaelites. Mohammad (peace be upon Him), a descendant of Ishmael, is indeed this Prophet.
Also, Isaiah 42:1-13 speaks of the servant of God, His''chosen one'' and ''messenger'' who will bring down a law. ''He will not falter or be discouraged till he establishes justice on earth. In his law the islands will put their hope. '' (Isaiah 42:4). Verse 11, connects that awaited messenger with the descendants of Kedar. Who is Kedar? According to Genesis 25:13, Kedar was the second son of Ishmael, the ancestor of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon Him).

3) God will put his words in the mouth of this prophet:
The words of God (The Holy Qur'an) were truly put into Muhammad's (peace be upon Him) mouth. God send the Angel Gabriel to teach Muhammad (peace be upon Him) the exact words of God (The Holy Qur'an) and asked Him to dictate them to the people as He heard them. The words are therefore not His own. The did not come from his own thoughts, but were put into His Mouth by the Angel GAbriel. During the life time of Muhammad (peace be upon Him), and under His supervision, these words were then memorized and written by His Companions.
Note that God has said in the prophecy of Deuteronomy: ''If anyone does not liten to my words that the Prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account. '' (Deuteronomy, 18:19). This means this means that whoever believes inthe Bible Must believe in what this Prophet says, and this Prophet is Muhammad (peace be upon Him).

Answer 2

God's wisdom is greater than man's so for you to put limitations on God's ability to be Who He wants to be How He wants to be makes you appear to believe you are wiser than him. I understand the trouble that non-Christians and even Christians have with this concept, but just because human intellect has a difficult time comprehending something regarding God's being doesn't make it untrue. It's hard to imagine a Being that exists outside of time and Who has always existed and never began to exist, but Christians and Muslims alike believe that this is an important attribute of God. I would suggest that before you try to reason the Trinity away you first look at Biblical scripture that describes the relationship between God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, and also how Christians would explain this phenomenon. Also, remember how offended you get when someone tells you that Muhammad was not a prophet and was a child molester? Think before you speak.

Answer 3

You're not really refuting the Trinity here, just a demonstrating that taking an analogy too far will break it. Just like any other analogy.

And Trinitarians don't say that the Father and the Son are the same Person, but that both are God. You're papering over the vast number of prooftexts for the deity of Jesus, such as the Gospel of John's prologue, Thomas' confession of Jesus as his Lord and his God, and so forth.

Answer 4

First of all relax,
Jesus, The Father & The Holy Spirit are one
Jesus Himself admits that so many times in the Bible
"I'm in the Father & and the Father in me"
"Who saw me, saw The Father "
"But you should know something, That Jesus Christ had two
natures! One of a perfect Human and the other of a perfect
God.
So when He said that only the Father knows about the Time
He was talking about his Human Nature or else it is a big
heresie. Do you think you are being smarter that all believer
that spoke to Jesus Christ Himself and even the trinity !! yes
many saints had this spiritual oportunity and we can all have
it! Jesus is still appearing to many people and He will always
until His Second Coming.
And you should know that although the Father the Son and
the Holy Spirit are One True God, they have different
personalities, but they are One.
and it is The Human Nature of Jesus Christ that died in pain
and was resurrected from the dead !!

Qur'an is nothing but an Inverted Bible !! Muhammed and
His men took things from the old and the new testament
and changed it to fit their needs.
Muhammed is just a political leader !
and according to Qur'an, no one can reach God or talk to
Him! But in Christianity, we all have the oportunity to
communicate with our God and even we can make mircales
and be just like Gods !! coz we are on God's Own Image.
He made us His Children !!
and just look at the muslims, u can see how depressed they
are, it is a men political religion for sex and that's it !!
Even Muhammed knew that Jesus Christ is our Savior
and that He's the One Who Will come in the end of time !!

God Bless You,

Read The Bible, and then come and talk to people.

Answer 5

God got it right the first time with the Bible

Jesus Christ Claims to be God
Matt. 4:7; Luke 4:12 - Jesus tells satan, "you shall not tempt the Lord your God" in reference to Himself.

Matt. 5:21-22; 27-28; 31-32; 33-34; 38-39; 43-44 - Jesus makes Himself equal to God when He declares, "You heard it said...but I say to you.."

Matt. 7:21-22; Luke 6:46 - not everyone who says to Jesus, "Lord, Lord." Jesus calls Himself Lord, which is God.

Matt. 9:2; Mark 2:5; Luke 5:20; 7:48 - Jesus forgives sins. Only God can forgive sins.

Matt. 12:8; Mark 2:28; Luke 6:5 - Jesus says that He is "Lord of the Sabbath." He is the Lord of God's law which means He is God.

Matt. 18:20 - Jesus says where two or three are gathered in His name, there He is in the midst of them.

Matt. 21:3; Luke 19:31,34 - Jesus calls himself "Lord." "The Lord has need of them."

Matt. 26:64; Mark 14:62; Luke 22:70 - Jesus acknowledges that He is the Son of God.

Matt. 28:20 - Jesus said He is with us always, even unto the end of the world. Only God is omnipresent.

Mark 14:36 - Jesus calls God "Abba," Aramaic for daddy, which was an absolutely unprecedented address to God and demonstrates Jesus' unique intimacy with the Father.

Luke 8:39 - Luke reports that Jesus said "tell how much God has done for you." And the man declared how much Jesus did.

Luke 17:18 - Jesus asks why the other nine lepers did not come back to give praise to Him, God, except the Samaritan leper.

Luke 19:38,40 - Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord. If these were silent, the very stones would cry out.

John 5:18 - Jesus claimed to be God. The Jews knew this because Jesus called God His Father and made Himself equal to God. This is why Jesus was crucified.

John 5:21-22 - Jesus gives life and says that all judgment has been given to Him by the Father.

John 5:23 - Jesus equates Himself with the Father, "whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him."
Jesus' Miracles Testify that He is God
Matt. 1:23; Mark 1:27,35 - Jesus was conceived in the virginal womb of the Blessed Mother.

Matt. 3:16-17; Mark 1:10-11; John 1:32 - God's Spirit descends upon Jesus and the Father declares Jesus to be His Son.

Matt. 4:23-24; 9:35;15:30; Mark 1:34; 3:10; 6:5; Luke 4:40; 7:10; 13:13; 14:4; John 4:52 - Jesus miraculously cures illness and disease.

Matt. 7:35 - Jesus cures a deaf person with a speech impediment.

Matt. 8:3; Mark 1:41; Luke 5:13; 17:14 - Jesus cures leprosy.

Matt. 9:21-22; Mark 5:27-34; Luke 8:44 - the hem of Jesus' cloak cures the woman with the hemorrhage. See also Matt. 14:36.

Matt. 8:13; 9:7; Mark 2:9; Luke 5:25 - Jesus cures those who are paralyzed.

Matt. 8:15; Mark 1:31; Luke 4:39 - Jesus cures Peter's mother-in-law's fever.

Matt. 8:26; Mark 4:39; Luke 8:24 - Jesus calms the storm. Even the wind and sea obey Him.

Matt. 8:32; 9:33; 12:22; 15:28; 17:18; Mark 1:26,34; 3:11; 5:13; 7:30; 9:26; Luke 4:35,41; 8:33; 9:42; 11:14 - Jesus has power over demons.

Matt. 9:4; 12:25; Luke 6:8; 11:17 - Jesus knows people's thoughts.

Matt. 9:25; Mark 5:24; John 11:44 - Jesus raises people from the dead.

Matt. 9:30; 12:22; 20:34; 21:14; Mark 8:25; 10:52; Luke 7:21; 18:42; John 9:11 - Jesus cures the blind.

Answer 6

If you believe the stuff you posted, fine live your life that way. As an atheist I can shoot all religious beliefs full of holes, but see no reason to do so. I'd like to believe that atheists were all rational people wishing only good things for their fellow humans, but those like Mao & Stalin put the lie to that thought too. Atheist too can be infected with dogmatism & misplaced idealism. Perhaps the most rational of all belief systems is Buddahism... all others are intollerant & barbaric in my view.
Chuckle, but even Buddah had his misplaced ideas.

Answer 7

I'm already confused about my christianity because I'm obsessed with reading about Buddism. Sometimes I think like a Jew. I have the guilt of a chatholic person because I'm a recovering catholic. Now, because this makes total sense and you answered a question I've wondered for years with facts, now I want to read about your faith too. I'm jumping religions faster than Maddonna and Britney Spears put together. Don't get so smart that you go crazy. You're too smart and you've confused me further in my faith. I don't know wether to hate you or thank you. Oh dear God, who and what are you really? And what are we really? I think Tom Cruise might be on to something about us all being aliens. Thats makes this so less complicated. But, I'm not wanting to think that I was or am an alien because then where do we go when we die?

Answer 8

So why was Jesus accused of blasphemy? It can't be because he claimed to be a man, that is not blasphemy:

Mat 26:63 But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. 64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 65 Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy.

To say he is not God is to agree with the pharisees that he was a blasphemer. Which begs the question, can a blasphemer be a prophet in Islam? And if Muhammad believes a blasphemer was a prophet, was he truly a messenger of God?

Answer 9

Muslims (and Islam) say Jesus was a prophet but they reject all His teachings ....that is hypocrisy.

They reject Christ's diety;
they deny his claim to be the Son of God;
they deny his death on the cross...
they deny His resurrection..
They deny Jesus is the Christ/ Messiah...
In fact, the Quran says : "Allah has no son".
Need I say more...?
Don't be deceived. The Islamic god is totally different than the God of Jesus Christ.
The Bible calls Muhammed and those like him false prophets:

"Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is anti-Christ, that denies the Father and the Son. He that denies the Son, the same has not the Father." (I John 2:22)
Muhammed was born almost 600 years after Christ.

Answer 10

You are so sadly deceived by False Prophet Mohahameds(ptui) and his book called Qur'an.
The only part of Jesus that died on that cross is the fleshly body that HE lived in for 33.5 years, so no Father God and Holy Spirit did not die and never will.

Answer 11

Don't try and get your head around it, just believe.
Think of God like this - As a Tree.
There are the leaves, the branches and the trunk - three parts, but it is one tree.

Mathew 18:3
3 And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."