John 10:30 --"I and the Father are one."
John 17:21-23--"that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one: I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me." (Jesus was speaking about his disciples in this prayer)
2007-06-05 04:47:57 · 6 answers · asked by Micah 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
The churches often cite John 10:30 to try to support the Trinity, although no mention is made of any third person in that verse. There Jesus said: “I and the Father are one.” But did Jesus mean that he was God Almighty himself, just in a different form? No, that could not be since Jesus always said that he was God’s Son, inferior to Him and in subjection to Him. What, then, did Jesus mean at John 10:30?
Jesus meant that he was one in thought and purpose with his Father. This can be seen at John 17:21, 22, where Jesus prayed to God that his disciples “may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us . . . that they may be one just as we are one.” Was Jesus praying that all his disciples would become one person? No, he was praying that they would be in unity, of the same mind and purpose, just as Jesus and God were.
The same idea is expressed at 1 Corinthians 1:10, where Paul states that Christians ‘should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among them, but that they should be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.’ So when Jesus said that he and his Father were one, he did not mean that they were the same person, just as when he said that his disciples should become one he did not mean that they were the same person.
2007-06-05 05:12:33 · answer #1 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Argument from silence. The Personhood of the Holy Spirit is established in verses like Acts 13:2, 10:19-20 (where the Holy Spirit not only speaks, but also uses the personal pronoun), John 15:26 (where the Holy Spirit testifies), and John 16:13-14 (where the Holy Spirit also guides, hears, discloses the future, and glorifies Jesus).
2007-06-05 05:04:52 · answer #2 · answered by Deof Movestofca 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Holy Spirit is the Father and the Son, because it is the love of the Father and the Son. The Holy Spirit is what comes forth from them. He (Holy Spirit) is the active working of the Father and the Son in the hearts of believers.
2007-06-05 04:55:29 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
God the one who sent Jesus, spoke to Moses and sent Muhammad is the only one to be worshiped.
2007-06-05 05:07:12 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
The Holy Spirit is part of God not a separate entity, Like most false teachers are trying to tell you.. Read the bible more carefully and you will see that.......................... And also remember that what the Catholic Church and it Popes did to the bible was a criminal act and that is why the world stand so confused when reading the bible.............................................
2007-06-05 04:57:14 · answer #5 · answered by kilroymaster 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
there was no need.
2007-06-05 04:53:03 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋