What would you have to talk about in R&S if people didn't do this to you? There would be silence here.
I would like to see folks discuss more particular points and issues from their belief perspectives so we can learn about each other. People speaking from the mind and heart using their holy writings or secular works to support their take on things. What's wrong with that? How long must we wait?
2007-06-05 00:52:54
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answered by jaicee 6
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Please don't lump all Christians into this. My religion does not try to make anyone feel bad about himself nor do they condemn anyone to an eternity in hell. Not our job. We believe that judgment is in God's hands. We do however believe that God has told us what is right and what is wrong and that choosing either will bring specific consequences. Imagine a child. If he touches a hot stove, he gets a bad consequence. If he stays away from the stove, good consequence. So, if our religion gives us the knowledge of an adult in this analogy, then we have the responsibility or at least hope of sparing the child the bad consequence.
However, as you express it, I do believe the behavior is wrong. It is wrong in any situation to assume yourself superior to another or to put down another.
Being truly happy without God? Just an answer - It is human nature to compare one thing against another. I know a lot of people who are wonderful and seem very happy. I can, though, see that they could be happier still if they could feel some of the things I feel. Example: Someone with children understands that their friends without children would find greater joy by having them. They share the joy of having children and encourage their friends to do so, because they want them to be happier still. Religious people feel the same way. We feel a great joy and are certain that it could make you even happier than you are if you experienced it also.
Or, use an analogy of ice cream. Perhaps I have a new flavor I know you would love. Is it wrong of me to encourage you to taste it? I might annoy the heck out of you if I continue to hound you about it if you don't want it - but, is it a "complex" because I want to give you something I'm sure you'll end up liking?
2007-06-05 01:07:21
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answered by Serenity 4
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listen pal the word of God says you will know them (true Christians)by their fruits,i don't understand why people like yourself put every one in the same basket.I'm sorry that's the way some Christians have made you feel.think of it like this ....can you blame someone who wanted to truly save you from a house on fire because you were unable to get out??if you saw the need to get saved from that fire you wouldn't have any problems with that I'm sure.you can keep your belief system as you call it and see for yourself where that will take you some day.yes people do have issues even professing Christians,should that come as a great surprise to you?because they are Christians does that mean they are not allowed to have them?where does that leave you ?stop trying to gauge this Christianity problem you are having with your reluctance to receive inappropriate attempts by Christians that feel they are trying to help you .don't let it get to you.maybe you are wrestling with it and its getting to your conscience and you feel uncomfortable.and this is a natural reaction for you too have.Ive known people who were anti Christians and now they are Christians.go figure!
all the best buddy
2007-06-05 01:13:30
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answered by V man 3
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You are referring to an Ideology of draconian faith, a med evil ideal from the dark ages to the early 20th century. A church that was created to bend man to its will, not to instill the honesty and truth of God itself.
Christian faith and belief is based upon religious text and doctrine, institutionalised for man by man as are all other religions.
God is not an institution, mankind only made it so to control and have power over mankind's weakness and frailty.
God is faith and a spiritual destiny which is a path we must all follow to find not only ourselves but God also.
Our own existence is a not just to be accepted but Questioned in a purpose for fulfilment and enlightenment, to discover the reasoning of why and how we came to be.
I am not referring to creationism but why we where born and who we truly are as a human race.
This cannot be discovered just true religious belief, regardless of its faith, cutlure or creed...
We are all on our own in this world from the moment we are born to the moment we die.
God is the conclusion of everything, he is not defined by a religion but by what we do with our lives and if we are good or evil in our actions and thoughts, how we treat our fellow man and what we feel through the aliments we must face in life itself, the obstacles we overcome and the love we give to others...
Thats why I am a deist...
2007-06-05 01:06:09
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answered by celtic_colieen 4
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Quit generalizing. Here, I'll answer all of your questions, in order:
1. I don't suffer from a "complex."
2. I don't need to, so I don't do it. We're ALL sinners, me included, so I have no right to condemn or judge anyone.
3. I don't tell people they're going to hell. Why would I make that the focus of Christianity when the point is SUPPOSED to be love?
4. No, it doesn't make me feel superior. It humbles me.
5. No, I don't like telling people they're wrong, so I try not to do it. Instead, I address their arguments specifically.
6. Of course I care. But I don't think a person should EVER be happy with the answers they receive. I think we should ALWAYS question, Christians included. We should ALWAYS seek knowledge, even if we think we know it all...because we never WILL know it all.
7. If they can't or won't believe, I just pray for them.
It's not a complex. I could explain it to you, but it sounds like you have your mind made up. I genuinely CARE, and I genuinely LOVE people. Is there something wrong with that? If you think there's something wrong with it, maybe it's YOU that has a complex.
2007-06-05 00:54:33
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answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7
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I agree with you, some Christians do have a bit too much pride in themselves, and entire churches were chastised for this in the Bible. We need to step back sometimes and do some self-examination. Maybe a dose of South Park is good once in a while.
2007-06-06 02:26:18
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answered by ccrider 7
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While many people do suffer from mental health issues and christians certainly suffer too, I don't think that we can blanket them all with suffering the same disorder.
They may be deluding themselves, but perhaps it's that mostly they want to believe in their religion. When they proclaim that something is sinful they're reinforcing this for themselves.
Others may not be believers, but cynics using christian (and pseudo-christian) beliefs as a tool to their own ends - spiritualism is a good example of this.
At the end of the day you shouldn't let them upset you. Pity them, as they're too weak-willed to admit to themselves that they have a responsibility to assess the morality of their actions without the guidance of an out-dated book of rules.
2007-06-05 00:53:02
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answered by Volksmecha 3
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The religion is dangerous because it instills in a person the kind of self-righteous and overwhelming, reprehensible arrogance that you have just described. There is nothing more arrogant than the mindset of a religious believer: "the creator and sustainer of the universe takes interest in me, and loves me, and will reward me after death; my current beliefs, drawn from scripture, will be the best statement of the Truth until the end of the world, and anyone who disagrees with me will spend eternity in hell..."
2007-06-05 00:48:34
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answered by Anonymous
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As Christians we need to expose people to God's law. That way their God given conscience and the Holy Spirit will do it's work and convict people of their sin. Most people out there think they'll go to Heaven simply because they are a good person. That changes though when most people are shown to be liars, people that have committed adultery in their heart with lust and have committed murder in their heart because they hated someone at some point and time. Once a person is humble then they are able to become a Christian. They are then open to repent and come to know Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Without humility one can't become a Christian.
2007-06-05 01:03:37
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answered by Matt 3
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It's a bit of clever psychology built right in.
Paul charges his followers with telling everyone (the movement needed critical mass and money), that they'll be persecuted for it (happened often enough), and that criticism is from Satan.
The end result is that they get to feel better about themselves without having to take any responsibilty for the way they do it.
Absolutely brilliant, that. Fiendishly brilliant.
2007-06-05 01:16:56
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answered by The angels have the phone box. 7
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