Do all catholics slam the blasphemy of trinity. Catholic Encyclopedia declares trinity is stupidity?

Question

The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

Answer 1

Catholicism just about amounts to the world's biggest cult.

Answer 2

Wow, you're taking this very far out of context. Re-read the passage you posted. It's talking about the history of the development of the Trinitarian Doctrine, not disagreeing with it or decrying or "slam"ming the doctrine.

Quite the contrary, God is seen as a Trinity, a Triune deity, in the Catholic Faith. The Trinitarian Dogma has been accepted since the 4th Century, if not earlier. In fact, I think that more recent scholarship (translation of earlier texts by the disciples of the Apostles, etc) has shown that a belief in the Trinity has been documented since the beginning of the second century.

In other words, your question is entirely off-base. No Catholic who understands his or her faith would "slam" the Trinity. There is one God, in three persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Answer 3

"The doctrine of the Holy Trinity is not taught in the OT. In the NT the oldest evidence is in the Pauline epistles, especially 2 Cor 13.13, and I Cor 12.4-6. In the Gospels evidence of the Trinity is found explicitly only in the baptismal formula of Mt 28.19. In the Old Testament. The mystery of the Holy Trinity was not revealed to the Chosen People of the OT. On account of the polytheistic religions of Israel's pagan neighbors it was necessary for the teachers of Israel to stress the oneness of God. In many places of the OT, however, expressions are used in which some of the Fathers of the Church saw references or foreshadowings of the Trinity. The personified use of such terms as the *Word of God [Ps 32(33).6] and the *Spirit of God (Is 63.14) is merely by way of poetic license, though it shows that the minds of God's people were being prepared for the concepts that would be involved in the forthcoming revelation of the doctrine of the Trinity. In the New Testament. The revelation of the truth of the triune life of God was first made in the NT, where the earliest references to it are in the Pauline epistles. The doctrine is most easily seen in St. Paul's recurrent use of the terms God, Lord, and Spirit. What makes his use of these terms so significant is that they appear against a strictly monotheistic background." (New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1965, "Trinity, in the Bible", p306)

Answer 4

The New Catholic Encyclopedia also says that the Trinity "is not . . . directly and immediately [the] word of God."

The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.

A Protestant publication states: "The word Trinity is not found in the Bible . . . It did not find a place formally in the theology of the church till the 4th century." (The Illustrated Bible Dictionary)

The New Encyclopædia Britannica observes: "Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament."

So other reference sources agree with the New Catholic Encyclopedia that the trinity is a false doctrine.

Answer 5

i've got no longer the slightest concept what the 1967 version of the hot Catholic Encyclopedia has to declare. this is no longer the respected Catechism of the Catholic Church. The Bible does no longer comprise the observe Trinity. although, the Holy Trinity is hinted at returned and returned in the two the previous and New Testaments. decrease than the impression of the Holy Spirit, the early Christians prayed and struggled over those tricks for a pair of centuries. the belief of the Holy Trinity (3 persons in one God) exchange into mainstream Christianity in 325 A.D. on the Council of Nicaea and our concept is expressed contained in the Nicene Creed from that council: We have confidence in one God, the father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all this is seen and unseen. We have confidence in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, perpetually begotten of the father, God from God, mild from mild, real God from real God, begotten, no longer made, one in being with the father. ... We have confidence contained in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of existence, who proceeds from the father and the Son. With the father and the Son, he's worshiped and glorified. ... With love in Christ.

Answer 6

I do not know the accuracy of the article in the encyclopedia.

But the concept of the Holy Trinity is not completely biblical. The growth of the doctrine of the Holy Trinity is another example of Holy Tradition.

The Bible does not contain the word Trinity. However, the Holy Trinity is hinted at repeatedly in both the Old and New Testaments.

Under the influence of the Holy Spirit, the early Christians prayed and struggled over these hints for a couple of centuries. The concept of the Holy Trinity (three persons in one God) was mainstream Christianity in 325 A.D. at the Council of Nicaea and our belief is expressed in the Nicene Creed from that council:

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in being with the Father. Through Him, all things were made. For us and our salvation, He came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit, He was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man. For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate; He suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day, He rose again in fulfillment of the scriptures: He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son, He is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

With love in Christ.

Answer 7

The Catholic Encyclopedia looks to explain the historical development of the dogma of the Trinity and does not look to say that Christians before the 300's didn't believe in the divinity of Jesus or in the Holy Spirit.

It is one thing to say... there was a development of theological thought and that the current understanding of the Trinity wasn't present from the get go, and quite another to say... there was no belief in the divinity of Jesus or in the divinity of the Holy Spirit (ie the idea of Trinity is completely unsupported by what early Christians believed). To see the difference takes reason and logic.

By the way, have you studied the apostolic fathers to understand what their beliefs regarding the divinity of Jesus and the Holy Spirit were? Please do so.

Answer 8

of course, you are using a 40 year old source- one that cannot be verified.

Catholics believe in the Trinity. It is one of the requirements of belief to BE Catholic.

It was the Catholic Church that DEFINED the Trinity.

Answer 9

That version of the Catholic Encyclopedia is not known for its orthodoxy. If you want to learn what the Church teaches about the Trinity, read the Catechism.

Answer 10

Why are you even pertaining yourself to Catholicism? Don't you know they teach a false doctrine? If false in part, false in all. Did you know they are still apologizing frequently for atrocities committed even presently? Why Hitler still has never been ex-communicated. Did you know that? ---not to mention all the pedophiles and murderers who "reign as priests"?? They even teach purgatory---this is not even in the Bible...Where do they get this garbage? Did Christ ever teach purgatory...makes one wonder; doesn't take a rocket scientist. Blah..

Further, the trinity is like trying to figure this out: A little boy is on the beach scooping up spoonfulls of the ocean one spoon at a time, then putting the spoonfulls into his bucket 15 feet away. When a man passes by and asks: "Why are you doin that", the little boy replies: "I am trying to take the ocean from out there and put it over here". The man remained puzzled and walked away. Make sense?

Answer 11

That doesn't say it is a stupidity and what difference does it make when it was solidly established. Do you think religion just quit developing the moment the bible was complete. Religion continues on. BB