boxing and martial arts?

Question

people seem to think boxing is a joke i have never seen a boxer been beaten by a martial artest and every time i put comment in about boxing i seem to get **** as if its crap what is wrong with you people have you ever been in a real fight?

Answer 1

never been to a real fight..

Answer 2

The only reason boxing is a joke is because of Don King. He's ruined the sport and boxing has no superstars. Well they might have a couple middleweights but no one cares about them. They need some big time heavyweights if they're going to try to stay afloat against the UFC. And as far as a MMA fighter against a boxer theres no doubt that the MMA fighter would win 90% of the time. I mean take Liddel for example He could probally win the majority of his boxing matches and then when the fight came up in the octagon the boxer wouldn't have a chance. In a real fight (street fight) it would come down to who's the dirtiest player plain and simple.

Answer 3

Boxing has it's advantages and disadvantages just like most Martial arts. The advantages are that boxers are trained to receive blows and throw them in full contact. Most martial arts due to the diversity of techniques available limit contact for safety and this becomes a liability in a real fight. Since Boxing is limited to punches only, boxers can fully concentrate on a few techniques and therefore master them faster and better. While the diversity of the martial arts' techniques tend to confuse because of too many moves in the arsenal and this limits the time spent on one particular technique. Ideally, the martial artist ought to have the advantage over the boxer, but the time spent to master a martial art is longer than the time spent by a boxer to become proficient in the ring, so the boxer usually ends up more ready to fight than a martial artist. As for boxing being a joke, it's been around for millenia dating back to ancient Greece, I don't think it would've lasted so long if it was a joke. Most people who do think it is a joke probably have never been clocked in the jaw by a hard left hook before. I guess you can blame it on the movies, since most martial arts movies show the hero doing multiple acrobatic combos to beat his opponent senseless when in real life a simple right hook to the jaw would probably have sufficed.

Answer 4

In the past, the competition between Boxers and Martial Artists have been contested under rules that favored the boxer. The most that the Martial Artist was allowed to do was to kick the Boxer. Now in the era of Mixed Martial Arts, with takedowns, ground and pound, choke outs, submission techniques, elbow and knee strikes, I think the power has shifted. As of yet, we have not seen this type of match-up, but let's talk after June 16th and see how we both feel after the Ray Mercer, Kimbo Slice fight.

Answer 5

actually every single boxing match you have ever seen is a classic example of a "boxer" bieng beaten by a martial artist.

BOXING IS A MARTIAL ART.

(ok, I'm jerking off with logic here but its still valid)

Realistically boxing is one of the best martial arts you can learn.

Quite frankly because of the realism involved in training. Will a boxer without any other fighting arts or skills (or defence to them) defeat a Muai Thai boxer or BJJ, sambo, or Pankration fighter?

Highly unlikely as the boxer doesn't have defences for legs, grappling, throws or ground game.

I'm talking of course about the modern version of boxing that is more sportative than "traditional" boxing which actually historically incorporated grapples, throws, etc. but doesn't get the same "spotlight" as the "ancient" and "mysterious" history of the asian systems.

People who talk down to boxing, are likely those that don't train realistically. Meaning thier sparring and resistance training is not conducted in a manner that is similar to a "real fight" where there are unrestricted target areas, full resistance, etc.

Actually this kind of statement against "boxing" was old hat, today its against competitors in the UFC and pride which is even a bigger straw-man argument that is on its face bogus.

True, boxing and UFC and Pride (formerly pride), and MMA competitions have and have to have rules for safety sake, and a good Non-competition based school will teach you to exploit that, and a good school that does compete, but teaches generally (not solely for competition) will teach you to defend against that.

If a martial art other than boxing, trains realistically then they have a clear advantage over the boxer most of the time due to the variance of techniques and different ranges which you can use against a pure "hand specialist".

However the simple truth and reality is that MOST DO NOT TRAIN LIKE THIS.

EDIT: I personally feel that training in a sportative martial art before training in any other art will increase what you expect from any other art you train in. Thus you will easily discern between what is real and what might be a poor understanting or interpretation of an art or poor training techniques and methods. IMO most martial arts tend to "dumben" you with concepts like "chambering" and "square chest" punching only with your arm rather than your body weight and leg, like boxing teaches.

EDIT 2: I have been in a number of fights and I also cross-train with other styles for the record. I have not however seen you on the board bieng attacked as a boxer before or else you would likely have gotten my thesis sized answer I put here.

EDIT 3: (the guy below me). It is not "straight punching" that gives it the power, it is the mechanics behind it up to the arm, the same full body mechanics can be applied to most ofther types of strikes many with even more power. You can apply the same power generation concepts to hooks, uppercuts reverse punches, overheads, etc. Also to throws, kicks (some) elbows, knees, etc. That is one of the main problems with many teachers is that they don't teach you to do this.

Answer 6

I've been in a real fight and I've found most of the technical training I've received goes out the window and I brawl. I've never seen a martial arts expert fight against a boxer in a staged event. I think most people give the martial arts more credit because it is a more complete method of attacking an opponent than boxing which is strictly striking with your fists. But like most things, it doesn't matter how much you know, it's how well you know it and how well you can perform it.

Answer 7

I was into boxing, (not as a pro) just for fun, and I beat a couple of guys that were into martial arts one of them was a black belt. And yes I know a boxer can kick the crap out of a martilal arts guy I did it and I have seen it a few times.

I had been in quite a few fights (street fights) and trust me when it comes to kick but, boxing helps a lot and I don't use my hands only, i use my feet elbows knees, anything, but it's all about how you can use what you have and what you know.

Answer 8

Boxing is a martial art, stupid. There were pro boxers in the original UFC's and they always lost, and if you go to Youtube you can watch boxers getting beaten by other martial arts like muay thai and kickboxing. It is just fact. Boxing is the best until you get kicked in the head or choked out. Trust me, you would rather get punched in the head then kicked in the head anyday.

Answer 9

Me, I'm a karateka and a boxing fan, but don't like the "point" boxers in the mold of Evander Holyfield. I loved Tyson when he was young, and other good "knock-out" guys. (Mostly from the past now, a "point" boxing has ruined the sport)
I would put any of the great knock-out boxer up against the best karate and kung fu masters of all time, and I'm sure they would hold their own. The boxing "straight" punch is scientifically and martially powerful.

Answer 10

In a street fight I would take a boxer anyday. But if one that knows martial arts trains themself to be a good puncher, than that would tip the scales in their favor. And I would say a boxer would beat the crap out of a MMA fighter on the street. Because fully clothed and surrounded by pavement, it is not going to be their first instict to try and wrestle someone to the ground and try to submit them! Lol

It really does come down to what you know and how good you are at executing it using speed, strength, reflexes, etc

Answer 11

What about K1 Kickboxing? or Thaiboxing? depending where you live in the world