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If God already knows everything, learning something new is impossible to God. QED

2007-05-29 20:07:28 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Do yourselves a favor before attempting to answer my question: read my argument.

2007-05-29 20:17:27 · update #1

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Omniscience means that God is all-knowing or that He has unlimited knowledge. His infinite knowledge is what qualifies Him as sovereign ruler and judge over all things. Not only does God know everything that will happen, but He also knows all things that could have possibly happened. Nothing takes God by surprise, ergo, there is nothing "new" to God because He knows ALL.

Omnipotence means that God is all-powerful or that He has unlimited power. It is significant because it establishes God’s ability to carry out His sovereign will. Because God is omnipotent and has infinite power, nothing can stop His decreed will from happening, and nothing can thwart or stop His divine purposes from being fulfilled.

However, omnipotent does not mean that God can do anything. Rather, it describes the AMOUNT of God's power. Power is the ability to effect change - to make something happen. God (being unlimited) has unlimited power. Therefore, God can do whatever is possible to be done. God cannot, however, do that which is actually impossible. This is because true impossibility is not based on the AMOUNT of power but on what is really possible. The truly impossible is not made possible by adding more power. Therefore, impossibility means the same thing whether or not God is involved.

So, the idea that God being almighty means that He can do anything is FALSE. In fact, the Bible itself lists things God cannot do - like lie or deny Himself. The reason He cannot do these things is because of His nature and the nature of reality itself. God cannot do what is not actually possible to be done, like creating a two-sided triangle, or a married bachelor. Just because words can be strung together this way does not make the impossible possible - these things are contradictions, they are truly impossible in reality.

The old "saw" question asking if God is all-powerful, can He create a rock too heavy for Him to lift... A rock would have to be infinitely large to defeat an infinite amount of lifting power. But an infinite rock is a contradiction since material objects cannot be infinite. Only God is infinite. There cannot be two infinites. So the question is actually asking if God can make a contradiction - which He cannot.

So you see... there ARE some things which ARE IMPOSSIBLE to God, but that does NOT make Him "non-omnipotent" or "non-omniscient." But it DOES make Him ... the INFINITE, ALMIGHTY GOD.

2007-05-29 21:28:57 · answer #1 · answered by wyomugs 7 · 2 1

Such metaphysical questions are in many circumstances couched in Aristotelian philosophical words, which basically presumes God's life. plenty greater to the element, how can an incorporeal God in all probability exist interior an purpose fact made from spacetime, count and power? If He does exist, then why is there no detectable info of His presence? i've got concluded that each and one and all gods have continuously been subjective conceptual abstractions which occupy the minds of human beings who're so unsophisticated they presume their own psychological reports are somewhat real. It became into basically approximately 350 years in the past that knowledgeable adult men found out that, opposite to Catholic and Anglican doctrine, the actual realm somewhat does exist and is the muse of purpose fact. approximately that element, human beings additionally began to suspect that each and each individual's self-contained suggestions became into to blame for their psychological reports -- nevertheless it may take until the commencing up of the 20 th century and the invention of the EEG to truly teach it. somewhat, God is an somewhat old cultural meme, which nevertheless persists inspite of a entire redefinition of the character of fact commencing up 3 and a a million/2 centuries in the past.

2016-10-30 04:34:29 · answer #2 · answered by bugayong 4 · 0 0

omnipotence=having unlimited power
omniscience=all-knowing

God can be all powerful AND all knowing...I don't get your question because the terms aren't really directly related but for the prefix 'omni' which means all.

dear, your argument does not make sense. Yes, if you know everything already then it is impossible to learn something new. BUT...omnipotent does not mean you learn something new. It means you can do anything, which yes I suppose it means you could learn something new but because you were all powerful...then you could. By having the power to do ANYTHING...you can do the impossible. One cannot sprout wings and fly because it is just not possible. But if you were omnipotent, then you most certainly could.

2007-05-29 20:11:51 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

Well, this is one of the many, many logical contradictions to the "God" mythology. The short answer is, he CAN'T be both. Therefore: he can't exist.

Interesting to note that according to the God mythology, when he creates a certain proportion of human beings (whatever that proportion is), he does so with the FULL KNOWLEDGE that those human beings are going to end up in hell for all eternity, since he IS omniscient. Isn't that an act of unimaginable cruelty, to create a being that is doomed to suffer for all eternity?

2007-05-29 20:13:40 · answer #4 · answered by Kevin L 2 · 1 4

1. having complete or unlimited knowledge, awareness, or understanding; perceiving all things.
1. almighty or infinite in power, as God.
2. having very great or unlimited authority or power.
God is both all knowing and all powerful.

2007-05-29 20:15:10 · answer #5 · answered by djmantx 7 · 5 0

Because He is also omnipresent and omnificent

God is all-powerful (omnipotent) BECAUSE He is all knowing (omniscient),and because He is all-knowing AND also unlimited in creative power,(omnificent) as well as in all places at the same time,(omnipresent), that makes Him all Powerful!!

2007-05-29 20:28:48 · answer #6 · answered by cas1025 4 · 1 1

As Lorraine said, they're 2 uncontradicting quialities: all powerful & all knowing

2007-05-29 20:40:40 · answer #7 · answered by kilts rock 1 · 2 1

kenyai is saying if God knows all, then he wouldn't be able to "learn" anything new, thereby being less than all-powerful.

2007-05-29 20:22:44 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

OK, you've got me.
How?
When dealing with absolutes, all absolutes eventually transect the same vector point.

K, now I'm just bullsh*tting you.

2007-05-29 20:19:09 · answer #9 · answered by Shinigami 7 · 1 2

I don't quite understand the question. How the two qualities contradict?

2007-05-29 20:11:11 · answer #10 · answered by Sadhaka 2 · 3 1

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