JCC of course, De La Hoya hand picked known name fighters who were past their primes and the fighters who still were in their primes he lost to. B Hop is a close second only because there really wasn't much competition during his prime, most the best middleweights didn't come til after he hit his mid-30's and as for Morales, well he did have a heck of a trilogy with Barrera but he's nowhere in the same league with Chavez.
2007-05-29 14:29:34
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answered by G.O.A.T. 6
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Julio Ceaser Chavez has to be number one (108-6-2) It was 14 years into his career before there was anyone who could get a victory over him and the first one to do it Frankie Randall he came back and avenged his loss and then late in his career beat him again. De La Hoya and Kostya Tszu were the only ones to knock him out and the only two he wasn't able to avenge the loss to (besides his final bout) but they were in their primes while Chavez was "old" for a boxer.
Number 2 Erik Morales was the man. I'd say he was the best boxer pre-Zahir Raheem. Somehow he just got old over night due to the many wars he has had. If he had retired before that fight he would have beaten every opponent he had ever faced but he is a warrior and will continue as long as he can like many of the other greats have....Roberto Duran, Julio Ceaser Chavez...ect. Say what you want about him but he has never ducked anyone.
Three has to be Bernard Hopkins who I have never seen beaten decisively even at 42. His losses to Jermaine Taylor were close bouts and I never saw him hit the canvas his whole career though he may have I'm not sure.
Hard to believe I am putting Oscar 4th as I have the utmost respect for him and other than in his fight with Hopkins I don't think he has decisively lost and his last bout with Floyd Mayweather though I think he did lose a close decision I thought he fought well. Some people may argue that Oscar should be higherand they may have a good point but his two losses to Shane Mosely will haunt him as well as his fading toward the end of his bout with Trinidad.
2007-05-29 21:36:55
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answered by mrraraavis 6
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Chavez, the man's a legend. Hopkins is a close second, his win over Oscar was one of the fights that made me truly appreciate his skills as a boxer(I had bet on de la hoya). Besides, I've always preferred experience over other considerations when it comes to picking a fighter, and Julio had lots of those, hard ones too.
2007-06-06 06:23:16
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answered by Shienaran 7
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This is a tough question (somewhat), because I'd say JCC and ODLH in their prime were both outstanding boxers. JCC's body attack was unmatched in the divisions he fought if not the entire sport. He was also a Master at Cutting Off the Ring which was one of the reasons he was so successful at the lighter weights, speedy guys couldn't get away from him (Pernell excluded). Julio also possessed an excellent defense which made him one of the most complete fighters in the last 30+ years.
ODLH was on par with Julio in many of the categories mentioned, however, his ability to Cut the Ring Off was lacking a bit in comparison. He did, however, have one of the most vicious Left Hooks I've seen in many years. Even the jab, which he is often criticized today for not using enough, in his prime was well utilized.
In Short, I'd have to say the two were equal. No disrespect to the Great Skills that B-Hop and Erik possess, but in this group they both fall short. Great Question.
2007-05-29 23:04:36
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answered by Cage Master 2
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I say Hopkins. He beat Trinidad and De La Hoya. He was underrated until beating Trinidad, and was skilled in defense, footwork and had power while keeping his arms short and contained. He did not swing wildly, but still KO's De La Hoya and
Trinidad. B - Hop was underrated probably because he was not superflashy, or when he tried to be his advertisements were weird. "X" and the mask looked, well, odd. I say B - Hop is behind only Roy Jones Jr. in these weightclasses when all stars were in their prime. But of course, the overtraining and age makes some of them lose after a stellar period of greatness. I always liked Hopkins because of his ability to box - KO -defend - have good footwork - and stay disciplined and orthodox. He was great at defense without displaying the Roy Jones Jr. arrogant " defenseless showmanship."
'Hopkins worked hard, and won on almost every card.'
2007-06-03 22:39:04
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answered by Bjorn K 1
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Julio Cesar Chavez, 87-0, you cant beat that, he fought 6 times a year, de la hoya fights once, B-hop is a close second 20 title defenses, erik morales daddy is marco antonio barrera.........sorry morales fans its true.
2007-05-29 21:42:21
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answered by casillasj2002 2
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It's got to be Chavez. He's got great skills and was very methodical as a fighter. He was very patient but worked with the precision of a surgeon. When fighting, Chavez wouldn't try to go for an early KO though he had pretty decent power. Instead, he'd work the body and try to wear down his opponent before going for the kill. He was very precise with his shots and all his punches were thrown correctly.
2007-05-29 21:48:16
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answered by bundini 7
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The blogbaba ranks them as follows:
1. Julio Cesar Chavez clearly already an all time great, his record speaks for itself, and his victory over Meldrick Taylor pushed him into the upper most of the elite.
2. Bernard Hopkins, destined to be an in the top five middleweights of all time, and a lock to be an all time great, his victory over Tarver was career defining and serves as a stamp of elite status that all must respect..
3. Erik Morales, a career that displayed as much heart as Evander Holyfield's, his victories over Manny Pacquio and Marco Antonio Bararra gained him all time elite status.
4. Oscar DeLa Hoya, will be remembered as much for Golden Boy promotions as his storied hall of fame career, but somehow lacking the status of the previous three. Oscar lost his biggest fights (Tito, Hopkins & Mayweather). Historic "greatness" is defined as overcoming adversity and winning the biggest fights, not losing them. Chavez's KO of Meldrick Taylor, Bernard's victory over Tarver and Morales's victories over Barrara & Pacquaio all qualify as great career defining victories. DeLa Hoya lack's this type of creditability.
2007-05-30 01:05:38
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answered by blogbaba 6
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Chavez, he fought and beat everyone, ODLH has lost to all the REALLY top level fighters he ever faced. ODLH may yet save boxing if he puts on other shows (produces, not fights in) as good as the PBF fight night. The undercard was great even though all you non-Filipinos and Mexicans never heard of those fighters. I'm neither but I've watched boxing for 50 years and all the fights/fighters were good. Boxing is alive and well in The Philippines and Mexico. I would like to see JCC against Manny Pacquiao in both their primes & I don't think the Pacman has reached his yet.
2007-05-30 02:21:53
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answered by Gerald L 3
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Julio Cesar Chavez he was a great fighter.
2007-06-01 10:56:30
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answered by Kurupti0n 2
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