Why are illegal immigrants...?

Question

seen as worse than pedophiles and murderers? I have noticed that a lot of people on here seem happy when an illegal immigrant gets shot or just generally harmed? Why is this attitude being developed towards this group of immigrants? I know they "committed a crime," but even thieves have basic human rights.

Boss Brat, I don't know if to believe in those statistics or not, they sound like they are biased. Plus, does that still condemn them to being shot to death?

Balsabul, I'm not illegal, and using your logic we should exterminate all Americans in Latin America who overstay their permission period, right?

Answer 1

I don't understand the propaganda against illegals either. It seems as if everyone thinks they are all theives, drug dealers, murderers, and rapists. Its sad that they have such a bad rep considering I know alot of illegals and they are really nice people. Not all of them are stealing jobs and lowering wages. Hell most of the ones I have have taken classes to get better at the jobs they do have, know how to speak very good english (some of my illegal friends don't even know spanish or have forgotten alot of it), and will not lower themselves down to taking welfare. Hell, I know more americans on welfare then illegals. And the stereotype of them breeding like "rabbits" is utterly ridiculous. None, and I mean none of the illegals I know have more then 3 kids. How is that breeding like rabbits?

Answer 2

It's racist rhetoric, pure and simple.

I think we can all agree that the act of crossing the border is illegal. That aside, the issue of contention is why they do it in the first place.

US Businesses lure these folks for jobs that pay below minimum wage with no benefits but to them is an economic opportunity of a lifetime.

The crime stats that many put on these boards are full of crap. Go to www.fbi.com and find out the real stats behind crime in american and you'll quickly see that the vast majority of crimes, especially homocides are committed by red, white, and blue americans; not illegals. It's so easy to take a few unfortunate incidents and make it apply to the whole. But most well informed people can see right through that tactic.

Secondly, the reclamation argument is nonsense on its face but makes for good hate mongering. Third, the stats on diseases are trumped up for the same reason. Lastly, the wage suppression argument is flawed because illegals are basically working jobs that are below minimum wage with no benefits to begin with. As I stated before in other posts, if you're so gung ho about these jobs, fire up that resume, get a job picking fruit, cleaning toilets, washing dishes, etc. and see if you're American boss will give you a living wage with benefits, right.

Meanwhile, we turn a blind eye at the government allowing hundreds of thousands of visa's for Indians who come here and take real paying jobs. Where's the outrage? Oh, and if a cuban makes it across the water and hit, land, that's OK too. Just bold-faced hypocricy.

So they wave the Mexican flag, Big F Deal. Many of those that wave the Mexican Flag are AMERICANS; so what, they're not entitled to do that? It's OK for the Irish, or Italians, or other American Immigrants to wave the flags of their country of origin but you can't stand to see the Red, White, and Green. Get real.

Mass deportation and mass incarceration are both unsustainable and unrealistic goals but it's real easy for good old boys and gals to scream that nonsense as if it were possible.

What we need is a practical solution and although the immigration bill as proposed is far from perfect, at least it's an attempt at doing SOMETING, instead of sitting around and whining about it. And the solution has to take into account that these are human beings that do, in fact, deserve human rights, regardless of status or circumstance.

- If they have a job, know English and/or are learing, and have committed no other crime than crossing the border (like the vast majority of them,) they should be given a chance.

- If they have a record, they should be permanently deported, period.

You can cry all day long about "waiting in line," but the fact is they are already here and all the bitching and moaning is not going to change that. And while you continue to ***** and moan, they'll keep coming unless something is done.

It's not rocket science, seal the border and address those that are here. If you want to participate in the debate, offer some serious and practical solutions instead of offering ridiculous, unworkable ideas rooted in fear and racial hatred. I thought we were a Christian nation? It's ironic that a lot of those folks who are self proclaimed Christians don't uphold's Christ's teachings on charity; caring for those in need. Honestly do you really think Christ would be yelling and hollering for mass deportation, or worse because of an illegal border crossing? Dig deep here folks and seriously answer that question.

Oh I already know the response:

"They're criminals, they broke the laws!"

You're all hypocrites! You're choose to be secular or religious when the situation suites you.

Chew on that.

Answer 3

Like one of the guys said about1.2 million immigrants legally enter the country on visas & permits every year, more than pretty much the rest of the nations in the world combine, well then MOST illegal Immigrants, about 50% according to ICE, overstayed their permits becoming illegal the other half of all ilegal immigrants sneak into our country not just the MEX/USA also CANADA/USA and sea ports, the only way to end this is to REFORM our immigration system. Why some immigrants don't apply for a permit and just sneak in, well thats BECAUSE the process to enter the USA is much to long and expensive & sometimes they don't qualify to enter the USA. Thats why and amnesty is not an answer we need a REFORMATION of our system to take those who can't live in the USA for many reasons out of here, and to let those who overstayed their visas to integrate into our system, so they can all of their taxes not just the ones from GOODS and SERVICES. Take France and Spain for example they ended with their illegal immigrant, problem in just one year, HOW?? They actually sat down and worked toguether to create a new immigration system, no border around their shores was need it to keep the Africans aways just a reform.

Answer 4

Almost every decade the American people need to find a new scapegoat. They fail to realize or conveniently ignore that illegal entry into the United States is NOT a crime but a "misdemeanor" but yet a deportable offense if caught. Just this week in my city some 23 year old American man was charged with murdering his girlfriends 23 month old child and another American man was supposed to be reporting for his sentencing for crimes against young females and he is yet to be found. This is just this week alone, Americans and not illegals did those crimes! There is no guessing who is bound to commit a crime by where they came from or by the color of their skin. Bigotry and racism is encouraged by some of the false reports being shown in forums and talked about on television and some radio programs. No matter what, everyone is entitled to basic human rights.

Answer 5

a) Not long ago Yahoo! had message boards to comment the news. In those places, the bottom of the barrel of the whole Internet congregated. The Yahoo! News Message Boards became famous as a haven for trolls.

b) Such trolls were the worst among the worst, celebrating when children died, debating ways to exterminate other races, attacking women, making merry over tragic accidents, etc.

c) On Dec. 19, 2006 the boards were finally closed after many people threatened a class action lawsuit against Yahoo! over slander, defamation of character and making available a forum so vile to children (there were no safeties).

d) Since then, the mentally ill trolls which infected those boards have moved on to other places, notably Slashdot. Many others have stayed in Yahoo! and have moved on to Yahoo Answers, where they have found a haven in the Immigration and Society and Culture sections.

e) These trolls are IRRELEVANT and represent no one but themselves. Even if they appear as many, in fact it's about 50 people organized in "crews" (Dana Crew, Edna Brambick Crew, Cindy Bin Crew, etc.) who have over a dozen of identities each, thus they appear to be many more people because they are posting 24/7 (as a rule, none of them is employed).

f) A characteristic of these trolls is to assume female names even though they are overwhelmingly male. They do so in order to create the illusion that there are women who share their views. Also, many seem to have gender-related fantasies, and a couple are known to be transgendered.

Answer 6

Illegal aliens are not seen as worse individuals than pedophiles or murderers (unless, of course, they are also pedophiles or murderers.

As a whole, though, they may be seen as a bigger problem, because there are just so many of them. If there were 12 million murders committed last year, murderers would be seen as a much bigger problem.

Answer 7

I don't think that they are even in the same category as a pedophile. Those people need to just be set free in a general population situation while in prison.

But illegals did break the law. They need to follow the path like every legal immigrant did.

No worries for your side though, looks like our politicians are still flip flopping and going to give amnesty but swear up and down it is not.

Answer 8

Many Americans view illegal aliens as criminal invaders bent on La Reconquista, naturally, they think of the illegals as the enemy. I mean if you are being invaded, aren't the invaders the enemy? We are angry that our govt does nothing to stop the invasion, and that are leaders are trying to pass an amnesty bill that betrays the American people, so that anger gets expressed towards the illegals.

We know that most of the illegals are good people, but they should go back to their country and apply for citizenship there. Also, when the illegals and their supporters waved Mexican and Guatemalan flags in the first demonstration last year, it really annoyed loyal Americans, and when they put a Mexican flag on a flagpole above an upside down American flag that got many Americans blood boiling!

Answer 9

I AM CONVINCED THAT PEOPLE (TROLLS,SCOLLS ETC)

ARE IN NEED OF ANOTHER METHOD OF REALITY FIRST HAND. WHETHER IT BE JAIL,INSTITUTIONS,OR DEATH IN ORDER TO GET OFF OF THEIR CINDERELLA, SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN TEE TEE TEES, MENTAL FRAME OF MIND.

And the only reason I personally have been putting up with this is to prove a point that I am correct about a breed of educated fools that do not have the sense to understand anything outside their front doors,other than what they read or are told! Like that Sponge Bob,Santa Clause,and Dr. Suess,Mickey Meows,really exist. And that they are untouchable!

Answer 10

There are 2 known racists on this forum, which I'm sure you had the "pleasure" of knowing, and others on this site are right behind them. If they only knew that the law to consider people who cross illegally criminals was shot down last year, they'd do a little more research before claiming they know what the heck they're talking about.