Question regarding the conflict between Science and Religion...?

Question

Isn't the only real conflict between science and religion seen in the fact that the multitude of scientists fail to comprehend the true depth of science, while the vast majority of religious people in the world fail to comprehend the true depth of their own religion?

And, for purely political reasons, isn't this prevailing junk-science taught to our children in schools, while spiritually disenfranchised dogma is preached to the people in the churches?

Aren't the truly enlightened people, the few who know that once the depth of both science and religion is revealed to the mind, that all Creation becomes One Unified Thought and Expression?

Ideas, Thoughts, Opinions...?

Answer 1

A thought comes to mind in reading your question . . . Quantum Physics.

Is that the harmonious place of Science and " Religion " (Spiritual comprehension) ?

My view is that Thought is Energy. Energy is Science. Thought being expression of the soul. Thought...Energy...Soul . . . Revealing of that would be the blend of Science and " Religion " (Spiritual comprehension).

Can Thought be scientifically measured by the Science community to their satisfaction ? It is moving more and more in that direction that it can in fact be measured.

What a revelation to " see " what has been known by many yet to that point couldn't be seen ! !
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Answer 2

Yes- The Truth is One, it can not be changed by science or any religious organization. One thing that all religions accept, is that there was creation. The Vedas have the most information on how creation takes place. God is One, with many names and He explains in full detail the cosmic manifestation, as well as the science of the Soul. Ayurveda is the original science of Medicine given by God. Jotish(Astrolology) is the science of Light and the stars and ones karma, which originally comes from God. Every aspect and science of life originally was given in the Vedas. Though other religions have some understanding of this as do some scientist have some small understanding of all this, but the fact is, real science can not be altered or changed. Actual Science is factual. The so called scientists just don't accept the authority of God, also known as Krishna, Allah, Jehovah, Vishnu, etc.- So they go on speculating eternally, what has already been stated by God and His pure representatives. For info on the Vedas go to harekrishnatemple.com Read Bhagavad Gita As it is and Srimad Bhagavatam-tells all sciences and paths.

Answer 3

The problem seems to start with the religious side. Religion sees Science's ability to construct itself on observation, hypothesis and test and becomes envious of Science's visible, verifiable process. So it tries to imitate the process, recasting its arguments as theories, sweeping the necessary gaps of faith out of sight, and tacking on whatever material "evidence" appears to fit. It is dishonest, both to the world and to its true purpose.

Religion is about faith, about looking beyond the obvious and seeking something greater. It requires constant recommitment. It is anything but certain. Those who seek "certainty" have lost their faith.

Science, on the other hand, is all about certainty. It rejects pat explanations and tests assumptions, looking for errors and inconsistencies, with the ultimate goal of getting the explanation right. This limits science to the observable world, but a world that is still too deep to completely comprehend. Every well-established theory must be able to modify itself to account for new, contradictory data until it no longer can and yields to a newer, better theory. A scientist who has invested so much into a theory that he can no longer consider a demonstrable but radical new interpretation stumbles into the realm of faith and loses scientific objectivity.

Scientists and theologians may indeed, ultimately, be seeking the same thing, an underlying HOW that is indistinguishable from the ultimate WHY. But their disciplines are incompatible. If Science does not maintain objectivity, it no longer learns. If Faith doesn't continue to probe for deeper meaning, its pronouncements become esoteric trivia. They must each maintain their distance and their own integrity, while respecting the others' jurisdiction. Otherwise we have a medieval muddle of meaningless mystery. I can do without the rage, but I insist on a clear separation between reason and intuition.

Answer 4

I agree. Sooner or later science and religion will come to realize the magnitude of the Unified manifestation of the One ingenious Creator of all.
In a vision, long time ago, I became aware that the universe is the body of God wherein all things exist.
The universe is a vast pool of awareness waiting to be revealed to those seeking conscious knowledge. Honest scientists are increasingly amazed by their own discoveries. The more they try to discredit creation the more evidence come forth supporting the existence of an ingenious creator. Quantum physics became the gospel of the new era and a glorious validation to the creator of all.
On the other hand, religion by persisting on the old obsolete ways, preaching heaven and hell, a god of wrath and punishment manage to blind people to the grandeur of the true Creator and empty their churches. By joining forces with the various political systems they seek to exert power and maintain control with excessive exploitation of fear.
In the country I live in (Greece), organized religion and politics go hand-to-hand condescending developments to their mutual benefits while people’s rights are violated on a daily basis. Economical scandals and corruption devastate the state with the blessing of the Orthodox Church turning the blind eye to all but their own dominance. Recently the archbishop issued a decree that no services will be made available to people without a religious certificate!!! So if you are not a declared, certified orthodox you cannot get married or buried!!!

Answer 5

I think many people believe the two can be reconciled, or given their own "non-overlapping" fields, because in our society we are taught to look for compromise. Conflict or seeing a subject as mutually exclusive is seen as a failure - not being broad minded enough, being stubborn. I think that view is incorrect in this instance. We must consider, using no preconceived "correct" attitude, which of the two holds up as having the right answer. A survey of worldviews/beliefs will show that religion believes its worldview encompasses science. That science is a creation of man, who is a creation of God. This is how mainstream religions accept evolution, as the main example. A purely scientific worldview thinks it encompasses religion. Religion is a product of man's consciousness, which is a product of evolution. So religion is just one of many (all) things that are explained by a scientific worldview. After a lot of reading and thought, I have concluded that the second worldview is correct. I do not concede religion is a special case, set apart from all other forms of thought, given a special exception from the rules of evidence.

Answer 6

Yeah, I think you said that well. It's human nature to seek satisfaction rather than Truth, not realizing that they are ultimately the same. The superficial aspect of religion seeks comfort in it's beliefs and there is a point at which the Truth becomes increasingly uncomfy, since it displaces the volition of the individual.

Science follows an established process based on objectivity, and so it resists the exploration of Consciousness as the subjective Source of the objects it studies.

The religious exploration of Truth would arrive at the exact same place that the exploration of science would lead, to the singular Consciousness/Awareness as the Source of every-thing, including our own Being.

It would, however, be the end of both science and religion as we know it, and so it seems unlikely in the near future.

Answer 7

I would say that science is fasifiable and religion is not. You can prove a theory in science wrong but it is impossible to prove something to which there can be no evidence, or hard data on. For instance, christians beleive that the world was created in six days . Now geologists have dated the earth to be around 4.5 billion years old. and the universe to be something like 14.5 billion years old. This is plus/minus a few years of course. But, with the evidence in their face they say it is an attack against god. What about the fossil record that shows man evolving over a long period of time. Nope do not believe that one either. So if you can not prove something wrong it can not be taken seriously. And if you do prove something wrong they still will not believe it. They will say the devil put this there to weaken the faith of the weak ones. The will say when a tornado hits it is an act of god instead of a warm moist air meeting cold dry air. They would rather believe in the fantastic magical world of make believe than in the reality of this world which is we are alone, nothing made us, we evolved from tiny little things called atoms and billions and billions of years later we have Disney world.

Answer 8

There is no conflict. Both are diffrent subjects altogether, and it depends upon you to take it in the right manner and not create a conflict.
Science is something that we have created, discovered and you have a solid evidence to proove you discovery, creation.

Where as religion is something that you are made to belive so many things. Now it depends whether you belive it or not as there is no proof for the many things that are mentioned in religion.
But because of this you cannot say there is conflict between these two, as hardcores belive that both are correct whether there is proof or not.
So, let things go on as it has been going on. We can go on arguing and debating about this for a 100 years and ultimately there will be no winner or looser and when there are no winners or loosers there is no conflict.

Answer 9

I think the "Truth" lies in a largely unexplored region between science and religion. No one religion has all the answers, nor does science. The difference is that science is looking. Religions are largely stagnant. Rather than continue the search for truth, they cling vehemently to so-called revelations from ancient books, rumors and stories handed down through millenia. I think the day will come when science finally uncovers the true nature of god. And I bet that none of the major religions will have had it right all along. They can't possibly all be right, but they can very easily all be wrong.

Answer 10

Very compelling statements/questions. Religion is like history; both texts were written by those who hold the power. Both are a means of control. Spirituality is boundless. It has no limits. I feel we are spiritual beings. We are products of a scientific process. These two are directly related. I don't believe we came from apes because if we did, there would be no more apes. Religion is interesting. Science is interesting. The answers to our existence may lie with both.