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why do we read so much anti semetic stuff in the gospel of john?

Let me give you the reason,

The hate that Germans had towards jews goes back thousands of years in history , and the Bible was put together mainly by Germans in German monasteries and there is very good proof to support the idea that the gospel of john was altered by jew hating germans who used the name of jesus to insult jews.

Muslims did the same when they wrote the koran by adding terrible anti semetic views that justifies the murder of jews and even christians.

As a result we see how Hitler had over 3 million jews gassed and we still see jews been attacked by muslims.

any comments from my friends?

xmuslim

2007-05-29 01:05:00 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

madbals, i have read so many anti semitic views in the gospel of john, such as jesus calling jews dogs and a whole lot of rubbish

germans used the name of jesus to discredit jews

2007-05-29 01:13:20 · update #1

10 answers

There is more to these events than you might think.

+++Apostle John-Nazarene knew the truth+++

+ John as the last apostle and the only who agreed to work with Paul of Tarsus knew the truth. he knew that Jesus founded the Nazarenes, also known as the gnostics.
See:
http://one-faith-of-god.org/new_testament/apocrypha/nazarenes/nazarenes_0010.htm

+ John also knew that Paul of Tarsus and the High Priests formed christianity to destroy the gnostics.
See:
http://one-faith-of-god.org/new_testament/apocrypha/founders_christianity/founders_christianity_0010.htm

In essence Jesus taught through the gnostic texts:

+ The god of the Old testament, the "jealous god", the "vengeful god" that demanded sacrifices, that demanded blood and war was actually satan pretending to be god.

+ The true God, is the father of all things, a loving universal god who would never display willing hatred towards any of his creations.

+ The Sadducee High Priests, the religious leaders hide behind white robes and words of holiness, but in fact were evil satanists who practiced black magic and human sacrifice.

+ The way to salvation is through self knowledge and the respect of all knowledge, not the promotion of ritual and ignorance of the double speaking satanists.

+++The largest populations of Jews in WWII Europe+++

+ Over 6 million Jews died in concentration camps under the Nazis. Several million more other minorities as well.

+ Most were ethnic Jews.

+ But at the end of WWII there remained some several thousands of Jews who survived Nazi evil, without their businesses being seized, without losing their assets, without being sent to the camps.

+ These jewish families traced their ancestry back not hundreds of years, but many thousands of years to the Sadducee noble families themselves. And the two largest populations were Munich and Berlin!

+++Ethnic Jews didn't die in the gas chambers+++

+ You are wrong to assume that the gas chambers were designed to kill. They were designed to render people unconscious.

+ You are wrong to assume the ovens that contrary to doctored allied reports only ran 24 hours a day from 1943 to 1945 actually ran from 1940 to 1945 were simply for disposing of bodies.

+ Bodies are extremely hard to destroy in fire. Burial with quick lime and unwrapped is a far more effective method to dispose of bodies on mass.

+ The ovens were for burning people alive.

+ There is even a darker history as to whom were behind such supreme evil- an organization with an exclusive knowledge of human sacrifice by fire.

See the Almanac of Evil
:http://one-faith-of-god.org/final_testament/end_of_darkness/evil/evil_0200.htm

Like I said at the beginning, there is more to these events than you may know. Be careful how far you want to dig.

2007-05-29 01:08:37 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

It is true that the first really published Bible was the Gutenberg, in German. And it may well be true that a certain slant was placed on it at that time. But the Bible may well have been pretty anti-Semitic before that time. Remember that not long after Jesus' death, the Apostles went to the rest of the world, including Rome. And they basically took over in Rome. Not so much as a result of the emperor Constantine, but more that Constantine converted on his death bed because Christianity had already become a major force in the empire at that time. The Roman empire was not specifically anti-Semite, but had subjugated the Jews, as it had nearly everyone else at that time. That's what an empire is. So when the Christians basically took over the empire, became the Holy Roman Empire, they carried with them contempt for all the subject peoples. Also, it was probably already established that anyone who did not accept Jesus as the Messiah (which, by the way, is a misunderstanding of the term "Messiah" in the old testament) was a stiff-necked, stubborn old fool, anti-Semitism inevitably became a major part of Christianity. Remember that the Spanish Inquisition was against Jews at least as much as heretics or witches. It was against anyone who was not a Roman Catholic.

2007-05-29 08:14:55 · answer #2 · answered by auntb93 7 · 1 0

Where do you get your information from?
This is yet another claim that the Bible had been altered. Impossible because there are too many manuscripts and fragments that date before that time...how could all be eliminated or altered?
The words in John are inspired by God, and if read in context WITH the other books, a person would come to a clearer understanding that it is NOT anti-semitic. Only those that are not careful in hermeneutic would think it is an anti-semitic writing.

2007-05-29 08:15:30 · answer #3 · answered by Jed 7 · 0 0

Who told you the Germans put together the Bible? That is incorrect.

Most of the old Testament that we go by (with the exception of a few books) was already established by the Jews before Christ ever came on the scene.

The New Testament came about over the centuries, not by Germans in monasteries.

Hitler had the Jews killed not for racial reasons but because they were the wealthiest .... take their money and kill them off was his plan.

Jews and Muslims are brothers and as such, fight like it.

2007-05-29 08:14:21 · answer #4 · answered by arewethereyet 7 · 1 0

Your history is a bit confused. Early Christianity did an excellent job of putting out anti-Jewish propaganda on its own. The first five hundred years of Christianity were nasty and brutal. Anyone who thought differently was a heretic and target, regardless of how small the theological differences actually were.

The Gospel of John was the last of the Gospels. By 100 CE, Christian leaders had moved away from trying to make their beliefs acceptable to Jews to rapidly distancing themselves from their Jewish origins. (Perhaps siding with the victors in the battles that led to the destruction of the Temple.) All the while attempting to get their followers to abandon Judaism altogether.

The Johanine author had an agenda, based in the politics of his day. He worked within the developing mode of slandering other sects to win converts and mark out his own theological ground. John Chrysostom (349-~407 CE) took it even further. It was his writings that were later dug up and used (out of the context of the heresy wars) to foster and justify European anti-Semitism. Nazi Germany was a very late manifestation of that hate.

2007-05-29 09:48:19 · answer #5 · answered by The angels have the phone box. 7 · 1 0

There have been many translations of the Bible in the last few years. Perhaps you've been reading one of the newer ones. I have KJV and a NKJ and can find no anti-Semitic thread in it - in the Gospel of John or otherwise.

BTW - It is pretty plain to see that John the apostle of Jesus wrote this book - there are copies from about 1900 years ago that have been found and do confirm the KJV as accurate.

What passages do you find to be anti-Semitic?

2007-05-29 08:18:31 · answer #6 · answered by teran_realtor 7 · 0 1

Your muslim views on Judeo-Christian scripture are simply wrong, and the facts speak for themselves.

No one needed to custom tailor the scriptures as an excuse for persecuting Jews, and the gospel of John is without doubt, authentic.

The Jews and Romans of that time were in fact, the minions of Satan, and many of those in power at the time were totally corrupt and willfully complicit in the death of Jesus Christ, a sinless man, and the only begotten son of God.

God knew exactly what they would do.

That's why God sent his son into the world at that specific time and place, in order to lay down his life, bring an end to Satan's evil dominion, and redeem mankind.

St. John knew all of this, through practical experience and divine revelation, and he was exactly right.

Satan's judgment for his crimes followed immediatey. It was definitive and complete, and all that he had earlier gained from Adam's sin was immediately forfeit.

The Jews subsequently experienced divine judgment for their crimes in 70 AD, at the hands of their former Roman "partners" ... but only after most of an entire generation adamantly refused to accept the message of Christ.

The Romans met their end in the late 5th century, but only after brutal persecuitions of Christians resulted in the bulk of the Roman world first being converted to Christ.

Hitler was a maniac who though the was god, and he was also an authentic type of anti-christ ... indiscrimanately killing millions ... Jews and Gentiles alike.

He didn't need phony scripture to back him up. He had real, consolidated political power, and he knew how to use it, for his own purposes.

2007-05-29 09:46:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I don't see any of that in the Gospel of John. Even in the Martin Luther made Bible. Jesus and John himself was a Jew.
You didn't give any examples.
It doesn't say that all the Jews killed Christ. It was a group of them who did it for a certain reason. They couldn't concieve of a spiritual Messiah. They were looking for one who would get rid of or conquer the Romans. Where is the Vatican again?
He called them a stiff-necked people... not dogs. At that time since they thought of themselves as the chosen people, which they were, they would not consider that God could make non-Jews children of God. Jesus said that God could make 'these stones cry out to God' if He so wanted. And BTW we're taught in Christian Church that He was talking to a certain group of Jews. Not all of them. The 'pit of Vipers' were the Saducees who no longer exist. Since Hitler and his comrads weren't really that smart, they took things out of context like someone else I know.

2007-05-29 08:10:30 · answer #8 · answered by madbaldscotsman 6 · 2 1

Jesus didn't call Jews dogs,he refered to the Gentiles as dogs.

Matthew 15

21Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon.
22A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, "Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession."

23Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."


24He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."

25The woman came and knelt before him. "Lord, help me!" she said.

26He replied, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."

27"Yes, Lord," she said, "but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table."

28Then Jesus answered, "Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted." And her daughter was healed from that very hour.


Jesus' ministry started with the Jews.

2007-05-29 09:23:25 · answer #9 · answered by Spoken4 5 · 0 0

Please give scripture references when you start perverting
God Word and Truth . Otherwise you must have seen truth
and , are in Fear of it !! and , now you try to change the true
meaning of it and are on the run .... Just Accept Jesus
as your Saviour , you will be Forgiven and will stop running ,
stumbling and , will have balance in you life .

2007-05-29 08:39:08 · answer #10 · answered by S.O.T.C. 3 · 0 1

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