Is Baghdad an example of the effects of Christian 'Faith'?

Question

The Christians, most it seems, believed Bush when he said there were newly created WMD. None have been found, just some old junk from the 1980s that was no longer dangerous.

We were to be greeted as 'liberators', but aside from some staged photo-ops and the gratitude of the Kurds, who were working with Al Qaeda, we haven't gotten many flowers.

It was supposed to take a few months, or a year or so, and we'd leave, but we're still there.

The oil industry was supposed to pay for it all, but Congress just approved a few hundred billion more.

Bush dismissed the Civil War warnings of the Generals in order to sell the idea to the American public, but there are few who refuse to call it a Civil War these days.

Is this what 'Faith Based' decision making is all about?

Answer 1

1) The "Christians, most" did not believe Bush. The American public did, as well as many nations around the world, which included Christian & non-christian alike. Almost everyone who watched Colonel Powell at the UN believed him. And Bush was ringing it into the ears of the public on a daily basis. I dont know what survey u found or did that suggested that it was mostly christians that believed him.

2) Baghdad is NOT an example of christian "faith". It is an example of a country that is invaded & is torn apart by war.

3) This is NOT what "faith based" decision making is all about. It is what a politician who uses the bible for his own purposes, & who misleads the public & the UN to fulfill his agenda, is all about.

I really dont know why when politicians quote bible verses to attain support for their agendas, people always read so much more into it. Anyone can say that he is a christian & what they are doing is for God. Al Quaeda & Iraqis murder innocent people every day & say that it is done in the name of Allah. Yeah, right!! Please do not judge God & his people by the political garbage that comes out of the mouths of politicians.

Answer 2

No, it is caused by the effect of people to busy whining on message boards, asking questions like yours and to busy bashing Christian "Faith", to take the time to vote for leaders of the free world that would not have allowed the United States to become so deeply involved in a war that was based on manufactured evidence that Iraq was producing WMDs. Did you vote in the last presidential election (assumming you are a U.S. citizen) or did were you to busy on your computer to vote. Because it is a fact that to gain the support of the U.S. population, the Busch admin held an important news conference before sedning our troops off to the middle east. A new conference full of false intel. I support our troops because they are serving our country and now it is such a mess in Iraq they are stuck there until somebody in the middle east takes responsibility enough to stablize the region. Vote don't B*tch and I don't know were you get your so called "faith based" tie in to it all, but you must have access to some type of poll broken down into religious beliefs as to who supported the actions of our government and who didn't. Oh Oracle please share your intel with us, that is if you have any.

No Baghdad is an example of a small percentage of the people in the U.S. exercising their right to vote. A right that millions shed their blood for us to have in WWI, WWII and many other battles. Your question is not in the correct category, this is a political question and as far as R&S, you only use it to bash Christians. How big of a Christian Hate Group have you built?

I know I will get reported, but your not the only one who is upset over the lies that sent our men in women to Iraq in harms way. Christians realize the government lied and if you would stop your hating for a minute and listen you might realize it's not you against the Christians.

Answer 3

The Iraq War was a colossal mistake...okay. That is a legitimate argument that has been made by many people, and far more eloquently. George W. Bush is an idiot, and stupidity has no bounds. But is Baghdad an example of the effects of Christian faith? No. I would argue that the suicide bombings in Baghdad, and the burgeoning civil war between rival factions, are more accurately examples of the effects of the Islamic faith. As fun as it may be for you, you can't actually blame all the world's problems on Christianity.

Answer 4

In a long and wearisome march involving innumerable strategies at survival, Mankind has undergone varied experience. Ignorance and fear of what we now call natural events, led him to be surprised and awed ... He invented " devils/ gods ". A number of beliefs and practises to appease these " devils/ gods " accumulated in course of time bringing about a priestly class. Religion was thus born. All religions are based on a set of beliefs which have to believed and obeyed. They smack of selfishness, fear, ignorance and superstition. Even Buddha's teachings, based on atheism, compassion for fellow humans and equality and born exclusively to challenge and drive away Hinduism with its "caste" and "untouchability", were later corrupted by all kinds of blind beliefs and ornate ceremonies to be reduced into nothing more than a religion.In Srilanka, it has assumed monstrous proportions of racism and genocidal fanatism murdering thousands of innocent Tamils - including hapless aged, sick , women and tender children... ! ! All religions depend upon the implicit and explicit unquestioning faith and loyalty of its adherents. Therefore, all religions are egoistic and sectarian. They also abound with unfounded, fixed and archaic notions. Thus they pose a serious threat to questioning spirit, scientific outlook and free thought and Christianity is no exception. Shedding and casting away our national and religious prejudices and becoming members of an international community involved in supporting and assisting the vulnerable and exploited sections of the world, fighting to save Earth from pollution and degradation and also preventing aggression, domination and war is the need of the hour. It is time we realise that, despite the superficial differences of "nationality' and tint of the skin, we are members of one and the same family - Homo Sapiens.

Answer 5

I don't think you are being fair here. Whatever you think about the War and the reasons for doing it, don't get Bush's decision to go to war mixed with his religion. Why would you call this "Faith Based" decision making? It's not like he's claiming that God told him to do it. This is just an opportunity for people like you to blame religion for what you feel are bad decisions on the part of people who are religious.

Answer 6

I think the gang is missing your point, that there are similarities in the way GWB puts all of his faith in his religion and the way he accepts what some advisors tell him, while ignoring solid analysis. Like the report that was just released last week which explained what would happen if we invaded. GWB had it when he made his decision, ignored and by golly, didn't it turn out just like the analysts predicted. That is what they're paid for after all.

Answer 7

sorry, it was an example of misguided nationalism, not religion. Essentially none of the politicians, regardless of their position on the political and religious spectrum dared to talk against it because it would have been seen as unpatriotic, not because it would have been seen as a godless or irreligious act. I remember having heard on "Voice of America" but also other "news" programs that the rest of the world went to the streets in protest just because they were envious of the US, not because they are all heathens...

Answer 8

I really don't think it had much to do with Christian faith, except to the extent of being a city with very few Christians in it.

I don't know, maybe Bush is really naive enough to think he can do some major conversion work in the Arab world this way. And as you know, Christians are generally taught that they are duty-bound to bring the rest of the world around to their religion. It is a little hard to imagine, but then lots of things about Christians are hard to imagine.

Answer 9

Whose faith are you asking about?

I don't think God factored into Bush's decisions at all.

But, yeah, there seem to be a lot of Christians who have faith in Bush because he said the right words to them.

Answer 10

To support your argument and prove David L wrong I'd like to provide this link showing Bush did indeed claim God told him to do it.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article317805.ece

"I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, 'George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.' And I did, and then God would tell me, 'George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,' and I did."

Scary stuff indeed.