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‘Christ according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the holy Ghost the third. Each of these three persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son. The Holy Ghost proceeded form the Father and Son, but was an equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.’

2007-05-29 00:37:03 · 19 answers · asked by Punter 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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2007-05-29 00:41:05 · answer #1 · answered by t_bassalay 1 · 1 0

Christ is NOT the Father. Christ is the Son. There are three distinct persons in the Trinity: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus) and God the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is neither the Father nor the Son at all. Check out the links below for a clarification of what the Bible teaches about God's triune nature and the three distinct persons in the Trinity.

2007-05-29 07:50:37 · answer #2 · answered by Pastor Chad from JesusFreak.com 6 · 1 0

What you have there is someone who is trying to use the concept of the Trinity to describe God. He or she probably totally believes that the "Trinity" is accurate. I wouldn't agree , I believe in the trinity, but I wouldn't say that it was something to attempt to describe in faith that it was accurate.

As I understand it, the "Trinity" was an attempt to describe God as he is revealed in the Bible. It was also meant to be poetic about it, as I have been told. But what I see in the Bible is that there is a father who is God, and a Son who is God ( God calls him God) and the revelation that God is a Spirit. How can he be all of those things? he is, but I can't quite put my finger on it, and neither could more learned people than I ever even hoped to become.

I don't need the word 'trinity' in order to trust God. It doesn't mean that I am a heretic, it only means that I can accept the concept of the trinity to a certain point, and then leave it alone. Jesus never told us to trust in the Trinity. He said to trust in God. And that's what I do, whether the word trinity is around or not.

2007-05-29 07:54:57 · answer #3 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 0 0

Maybe if you attempted to study this doctrine instead of scoff at it you may understand a little better. Its difficult at best. But,.....we are talking about GOD, not some arbitrary opinion.
Assuming the Bible is true-what term would you use to describe the reference to the father, son, and holy spirit found throughout scripture? The best descriptive term so far that man has been able to come up with is that God is a "triune being". The word "trinity" does not appear in the Bible. It is the term applied to this reference of "the father , the son, and the holy spirit". What would you call it?

2007-05-29 07:51:32 · answer #4 · answered by Janet H 24 2 · 0 0

John 17:3,5,24;
Col.1:15-17;
Rev.3:12,14;
Matt.3:16,17;
Matt.16:16,17;
John 14:13-15,26,28; 16:23,26;
Gen.1:26; Adam and Jesus are created in the image of God. WHAT TRINITY?
Adam and eve were created souls, the offsprings of Adam and Eve are born souls that die. the life of the soul is the spirit of God, Eccl.3:19-21; 12:7; Psm,104:29,30; For the resurrection Eze.37:12-14; The spirit that returned to God at the death of the person Luke 8:50,52,54,55; Luke 23:46; returned to
resurrect the soul Rev.6:9-11; 1Cor.15:22-28,51-53; The heavenly John 6:39,40,44; Rev.3:12; for the new heavens 2 pet.3:13; and the earthly for the new earth. 1Thes.4:15-17; the caught up to be with Jesus at his second coming, Heb.12:22-24; Mark 13:27; Rev.20:1-6,12,13; The heavenly for the new heavens and the earthly for the new earth Rev.21:1-5;
John 20:17; My Father and your Father, my God and your God, WHAT TRINITY?
Gen.1:1,2 [ all exist ]; Job 38:30-32; Job 38:4-7; Heaven is inhabited with
angels called morning stars and sons of God to see ages old earth prepared ages Gen.1:3-35; [ 2 pet.3:13; Isa.65:17; 66:1,22,23; there has got to be a new heavens and a new earth ]; Rev.3:12; Jesus takes a new name,
and when the kingdom of the heavens are handed over to be the kingdom of God Rev.2:7; as Luke 23:43; says, the son Jesus Rev.22:16; As the bright and morning star and the first before all else is a son with all other sons in the family of God. Rev.20:1-6,12,13; He makes all as perfect as God meant it to be in the beginning and hands it all back over to God.

2007-05-29 08:02:13 · answer #5 · answered by jeni 7 · 1 0

Can you please show some respect? God forbid someone here stated "nothing can be more perfectly idiotic than Islam", and you would immediately condemn him or her to eternal damnation.

You have repeatedly asked questions on the Trinity, and on the Bible, and despite some honest answers, your questions (which are actually statements), show no evolution of thought or progressive understanding of Christian doctrine.

Christians do NOT worship three different Gods. The holy trinity is one God with three distinct essences. If you don't believe in it, fine. If you are genuinely interested in understanding it, fine. This is the place to do it. But if you're just interested in berating it incessantly, then please find a more appropriate forum.

2007-05-29 07:47:04 · answer #6 · answered by LeilaK 2 · 1 1

Still going on about the Trinity, huh?
I am afraid you just never will truly try to understand. But about your very last statement, yes, I can think of something more perfectly idiotic and absurd, and it isn't Christianity or its doctrines.

2007-05-29 08:00:49 · answer #7 · answered by Jed 7 · 0 0

Father, son and Ghost r the words used to share it to wordly people who donot have the capacity to understand it in its true sense.

Father is the sea of all prevading light. Son is the light within with no difference. Holy Ghost is an entity of void within and outside body. However all thee r one. Its simple but cannot be explained with words.

I m not christian. But spirituality is same everywhere and at all times.

Keep smiling, Sad and serious faces can never know it

With Love

2007-05-29 07:57:07 · answer #8 · answered by dd 6 · 0 1

hi i guess you've got the trinity right n ya the thing tat u call ''idiotic n absurd'' i'd call marvellous n wonderful n a reason y God is God n humans r humans n a reason too complex 4 us 2 fathom

2007-05-29 08:46:40 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You are taking an entirely human perspective and trying to reason something with your mind, when it is actually higher then our intellect can grasp.

God is not boxed in by our human limitations...in mind or body. He does not suffer the consequences of the flesh. Just because you cannot grasp it, does not make it idiotic.

An infant cannot grasp all that it's parents understand. Because the baby doesn't get it...doesn't make it idiotic. It just means that the baby has not matured to the point of understanding. So it is with our spiritual growth as well. You will never understand as long as you remain a spiritual infant.

2007-05-29 07:47:16 · answer #10 · answered by Misty 7 · 1 2

I prefer the ''absurdity'' of God than that of the absurdity of big bang and Evolution. It takes more faith to believe in evolution and big bang than the God ''absurdity''.
Note: I don't reproach theistic evolutionists because it at least takes little faith to believe God did all these things.

2007-05-29 07:47:22 · answer #11 · answered by talleymark 3 · 0 0

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