True Torah teachings...why are we being disobedient?

Question

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

Should we not follow the Rabbi's teachings? Have we been doing wrong?

I am not alone, you just don't answer the questions of people who agree with me, I think you are just doing this because I am new here, and I will be outcast for being outspoken even though I am not afraid to stand alone. I am a good person, I stand up for what I think is right, and I say something when I see an injustice.

Answer 1

Look it's true that there were and are big Rabbis and Torah-scholars who are against the Zionism because it's establishers were anti-torah, and anti-religion. That they (the establishers of Zionism)didn't exactly practice Judiasm everybody agrees. The Charedim are anti-zionists, and they have a Torah basis to lean on. BUT that link seems to me like Neturei-Karta who are a bunch of radical anti-zionists who go meet with terrorists and wave the flag of the Palestinian authority. Believe me, no Rabbi, not even Reb Yoel of Satmer (he was a great Torah scholar and Rav, and VERY anti-zionist) says to join the enemy. And even those who are anti-zionism sit in the Knesset and take some sort of part in the state affairs.
Also on the other hand I can show you writings of great Rabbis who are for Zionism (unless it comes instead of keeping the torah and mitzvot) and say that we must take part in the building of a Jewish state because it's the beggining of the Jewish people's redemption (אתחלתא דגאולה). Rav Avraham Yitzchak Hacohen Kook is the establisher of religious zionism and everybody (including Charedi rabbis) agrees that he was a great person.
So in the end it's up to you to read the writing of Rabbis on both sides and decide for yourself with who you sympathize more. It's a מחלוקת לשם שמים. And go straight to the original texts, .Read the books of R' Yoel from Satmer, read the books of R' Kook, ask Rabbis on both sides about the two ways, and learn from them, and LEARN. Don't base your outlook on what you saw in an internet site, for heaven's sake.
Good Luck to you and remember that כל ישראל אחים.

Answer 2

Ba'al tosif is also a True Torah teaching. Or how bout "עדיף להקל מלהחמיר על האחרים"? Try following the Rabbi's teachings.

Answer 3

We should follow God's teachings. Start by reading the Torah.

Answer 4

Hi.
You obviously know that Judaism is a whole complex of beliefs, traditions and cultures. Two Jews, three opinions, so they say.
You have your list of sources that say that settling Israel delays the Messiah, but I have a list of sources that says the exact opposite. You have your belief and views, and it is fine. I have my own. It doesn't mean that either of us is wrong or a "bad Jew", it simply means that we come from different Jewish attitudes towards Zionism.

Answer 5

This guy is an Arab sympathiser posing as a Jew and spouting nonsense.

He knows how to cut and paste, but he has no understanding of the content. He does not show any of the signs of being Jewish, and I am not going to clue him in.

The Neturei Qarta group, which numbers under 20 Orthodox Jews, does indeed object to the State of Israel. The other 99.999999999 percent of Jews throughout the world support Israel as the Jewish homeland--the only Jewish state in the whole wide world.

The Jewish community considers these supporters of Islamic terror as the lunatic fringe.

The are 22 Arab states, and over 60 Muslim states.


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Answer 6

I wonder if the "Rabbi" knows that it is against Halacha to give property in Israel to non-Jews.

So by dissolving the state you would be in gross violation of Jewish law.

Answer 7

Look at all the racists coming out of hiding in the sand. Just like cho-cho, murderers.

Answer 8

You're such a bad liar, George. You're definitely not Jewish. Perhaps you are Lebanese or Syrian or Palestinian, but not Jewish (certainly, not mainstream Jewish).