How much more sugary stuff do I have to eat before I finally get diabetes? I need it so I can have Byetta.?

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I _need_ to have diabetes because my doctor won't let me have Byetta just for weight loss. Now I know everyone who answers this is going to say, stupid fat person should just eat right and exercise. But it doesn't matter how perfectly I eat, or how much I exercise. I've already tried more diets than you can imagine. No, really. I've tried that one too. Yup, and that one, so don't bother telling me how I just haven't done enough of your version of eating right and exercizing. I just need to know how much longer I have to keep shovelling sugary crap into my gullet before they will let me have the Byetta.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say I think deliberately giving myself diabetes in order to have access to a drug that will peel 30 lbs a month off this disgusting THING THAT I HAVE BEEN FORcED TO LIVE IN is way saner and healthier than building a guillotine to shove all the fat through and chop off. Every day that my doctors refuse to let me have Byetta is a day they are forcing me to fantasize about cutting it all off. And just because the fda hasn't approved Byetta for weight loss, doesn't mean they never will. There are human trials being done on that very topic, but 1. I'm too fat too qualify for the study (go figure); and 2. live at least a thousand miles from hospital they are doing the study out of. So in order for me to get Byetta as a weight loss drug, I'll have to wait a few years. Easier and faster to eat myself into diabetes and get it that way.

That's right. I keep forgetting. The stupid fat person can't possibly know what she's talking about. Otherwise she wouldn't still be so disgustingly fat. No, really, you stupid fat person, you were just imagining all those diets you were on. All that physical activity you participated was only in your dreams. If you had actually ridden your bike three thousand miles in a year while taking tai chi lessons and working at a non-sedantary job and following a Overeaters Anonymous eating plan, you wouldn't still be fat.

there's that definition of insanity that reads "doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results is crazy." I know you all can't believe that what I say about having already tried all kinds of diets and lots of exercise, over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. But it would be insane to try diet and exercise ever again, because it isn't going to make me skinny. It will only make me a little bit less fat. If it is extremely offensive of me to seek a route out of this hideous, horrible disgusting life of obesity (yeah, you go ahead and imagine being TOO FAT for a weight loss drug study) via an unconventional means, I find it even more offensive that you refuse to believe me. Stop preaching at me for not knowing what I'm talking about and give me an answer. OR DON'T ANSWER.

as for the doctors, they run tests. and the tests show I'm mildly hypothyroid, so they prescribe me some synthroid. and then they re-test, and the new results show, oh, so scientifically, how what they have given me is the right dosage for me, and there's nothing else really wrong.

can't argue with the test results, not when they are so consistent.

Why can't they just up the dose of the synthroid just because? Because overdosing on it might cause brittle bones.

Answer 1

Sorry, another preacher for the choir here. I'm thinking everything thats just been said.
Unless you are trying to kill yourself?

OK Here is a FOOLPROOF way to lose weight. I know you have said you have tried everything BUT I swear to you this WILL WORK and QUICKLY. There will be a lot of naysayers here, but its certainly a lot safer than what you want. ATKINS DIET. Mercilessly restrict your carbs - NO Bread, rice, cereal, pasta, wheat, flour, fruit, only some veggies (onion, brocolli, cauliflower, zucchini, some pumpkin, some tomato, cucumber, lettuce, cabbage, etc.) plenty of meat, proteins, eggs cheese, cream, even fatty chicken skin is ok lol.
If it is done properly, Your body will burn fat like its going out of business. This is because you won't have any carbs to convert to sugars. When you get to a suitable weight which won't take long at all,THEN you gradually reintroduce your carb foods beginning with fruits and later your low GI breads and cereals until you are maintaining your weight and not losing or gaining. Look up the information online, after a day or two restricting carbs you stop craving them, which helps. And again, you don't give up food forever, just long enough to whip your body into shape and then reintroduce the HEALTHY carbs. Don't worry about cholesterol on this diet - your body burns fats and this naturally will diminish your cholesterol levels.
It is better to see a doctor before you embark on this diet (have your kidneys checked first), but if you are at the point where you are grasping at extreme options, just go for it.

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Answer 3

Been there. Now that I have diabetes, I'd love to not have it. But, here's the thing. Insulin resistance can make it very hard to lose weight, and you don't have to have diabetes to have an insulin resistance problem.

Suggestion -- log everything you eat for a week, and eat sensibly. Then take that log to your doctor and ask to be tested for insulin resistance and other metabolic disorders. Weight issues are also often related to thyroid problems. If your doctor won't listen and help you, it's time for a new doctor. It's your doctor's job to listen to you and do something to help you.

Eating sugary stuff may never give you diabetes, but it's going to pack on the weight. Another very good possibility is that even if you develop diabetes, Byetta may not be what's prescribed for you. It's usually prescribed when oral diabetes meds aren't working well enough. Then it's taken in combination with an oral med such as metformin (Glucophage).

Good luck.

ADDED: You might not lose any weight with Byetta even if you get it. 30 pounds in a month? My doctor did prescribe Byetta for me. I've been using it for three weeks. No more than 1,200 calories per day, exercising every day. I've lost 6 pounds in three weeks.

I know how frustrated you are. But focusing on a drug that MIGHT cause weight loss as a side effect isn't even a logical answer. You know you have real health issues here. Why haven't you fired the doctors who won't listen, understand, and help and found a new doctor?

Please take care of yourself. I hope you find your solutions soon.

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I believe you totally, but the truth is the truth. Planning to get diabetes is not the way to go. It could take YEARS to become diabetic, IF you ever do. In the meantime, stuffing yourself with sugar is going to pack on even more pounds. You NEED a doctor who will help you find out WHY you can't lose weight.

Surely you know that the actual question you started out with about "how much more sugary stuff" is a question that has no answer. So why did you post it?

You have two choices:
1) You can keep this up and put yourself in even worse shape, or
2) You can stop this temper tantrum and find a good doctor who can and will help you.

I've been where you are, and I've been posting here tonight trying to help you. You don't want to hear it. Cut the temper tantrum or just look in a mirror and tell yourself what you want to hear.

Good luck.

Answer 4

I am a type 2 diabetic, and I use Byetta. Yes it is helping me loose weight, but not 30 lbs a month. Its more in the 5- 10 range.

Also one of the causes of diabetes is hereditary. If no one in your family has never had diabetes of any type you may not get it just by eating sugar. All you would be doing is adding more weight.

One more thing I think you need to go see a head doctor. Just reading your question and add. comments you seem to have some unresolved issues.

Answer 5

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Answer 7

You know you're making yourself sound crazy right? Diabetes is a serious illness.

I understand your frustration about not being able to lose weight, but have you really tried everything? Watching what you eat? Exercising?
You really need to consult your doctor and ask him to set you up with a weight loss plan, then set you up with a dietician so you can both work on figuring out why you can't lose weight. Drugs, no matter what they are for, should be a last resort, just like gastric bypass is a last resort.

And scarfing sugary sweets into your mouth in trying to force yourself to become a diabetic won't help the issue at all. What if you don't ever become diabetic? You'll spend your whole life trying to force yourself into the disease when you won't get it. Plus, all that sugar will just add more insult to injury, and will only add more weight to you, thus, making it even harder for you to lose the weight you want to lose so badly.

Answer 8

I have been diabetic for 45 years. Type 1. No one would ever want to be diabetic.

Go on a diet. You CAN lose weight. You just have to make the effort. You may have tried lots of diets, but you have not stuck to them.

I have to take insulin every time I eat and before bed. Would you really want that for yourself?

Just because you are diabetic does not mean you will get the medication you want. You get what your doctor prescribes. If you are terribly over weight that could well be insulin. I know may type 2's on insulin.

Eating the way you say you are may not even make you diabetic. It may just give you a heart attack and kill you!

If you really are as huge as you say see your doctor about gastric bypass surgery. My friend had it and lost over 250lbs.

Please I'm begging you take care of yourself and most of all have more faith in yourself. Nothing is impossible unless you kill yourself. Then it's too late to do anything.

Answer 9

I can't believe you think this is the only way to lose weight. That's just lazy and as a person with [Type 1] diabetes, this is one of the most uneducated reasonings for wanting some weight loss medicine. Once you get diabetes [though different from my type] you run the risk of serious complications, more serious than you just wanting to lose weight.
Second, even if you cram sweets down your throat you may NEVER get Type 2 diabetes. This is a possibility, you run the risk of gaining extreme amounts of weight, becoming obese and still never getting your little medication you wanted because you are lazy and ill-minded. For example my great grandfather weighed over 300 lbs and NEVER had diabetes or any serious health problems until he was 91 years old. He was just incredibly fat, which is what you are bound to end up as.
I can't imagine any person wanting to get type 2. It is less difficult than type 1 but you need to reevaluate your priorities because it's extremely offensive.

Answer 10

I hate to break it to you, but sugar does not cause diabetes. Check out this link: http://chinese-school.netfirms.com/diabetes-causes.html.

It lists the causes of diabetes and also what things do not cause diabetes (including sugar).

I know you've said you've tried every diet in the world, and I know you probably don't want any more advice in that area, but I know a lot of people have had success through a free Web site called SparkPeople (www.sparkpeople.com). The SparkPeople method is about changing your lifestyle, not fad diets. It's a community of people who all need to lose different amounts of weights, from 10 pounds to more than 300 pounds. They have free meal and exercise plans. It's hard work; there's no denying that. But if you're serious enough about losing weight to try to give yourself diabetes, maybe you could put that determination toward a Spark plan for a year and see how you do.

I know being overweight is tough, and I know it's easier to look for that miracle drug or miracle diet than to put in the time and effort to lose weight the healthy way. But you can do it. There are some amazing stories of people who have lost hundreds of pounds on SparkPeople. I wish you luck and health.