And if so, does this not mean that God will have robots in heaven serving him?
For if sin and free will are wiped out, there will be nothing left but automatons who have no choice but to obey God.
And this is the very thing God hoped to avoid by causing so much sin and suffering?
Without sin, free will does not exist!!!
2007-05-18 14:42:39 · 25 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
No, it isn't correct. Adam and Eve had freewill before eating the forbidden fruit. Sin came out of freewill, not the other way around.
2007-05-18 14:45:35 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yes, sin is the cause of free will. Theologically speaking, free will has to do with the ability to look to God for salvation, and Adam and Eve did not need to look to God for salvation before the fall. They had perfect fellowship with God and the full capability to obey him.
However, they did not, and thus they lost fellowship with him, dragging the entire human race down with them in a federal representation of sin that separated everyone from God. All the free will you want, with a final destination of Hell save for direct intervention by God.
So, with your "yes" answer, we do have a bunch of robots -- slaves to Satan and the ways of the world. Salvation from this servitude comes from the quickening of the Holy Spirit, as a result of a decree of God from before the foundations of the world. Automatons for God? You're saying hell is a good thing, and a choice the Christian would want instead of a life in Christ? Once our eyes are opened, the true Christian does not want to go back, and neither will the Lord abandon them.
2007-05-19 00:14:48 · answer #2 · answered by ccrider 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No. Actually, it's the opposite...Free will is the cause of sin.
Ohkay, look, Adam and Eve, the reason we have sin. The BOTH had free will. God was not controlling them. God told them not to eat the fruit from THAT TREE. They can eat it from any other tree, exept that. BUT they sinned...they ate the fruit from the tree.
If we didn't have Free Will, everyone would be perfect because God would control us.
So without free will, sin wouldn't exist.
...It was kinda hard to explain this, hope you understood...lol.
2007-05-18 21:50:54 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Friend, your logic breaks down with your first assumption of "Sin is the cause of free will."
Free will is not caused by sin - free will is a gift from God. Without free will man cannot love, obey, be noble.
Likewise, without free will man cannot sin. So your conclusion is backwards: it should be "Without free will, sin does not exist!!!!"
From what I read, God has no intention to wipe out free will. Instead I think the plan is to release our free wills from our own carnal, wordly selfishness that continually leads us back into sin.
Hope this clarifies it a bit.
2007-05-18 21:50:26 · answer #4 · answered by Richard of Fort Bend 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes, to the first question. Free will begets sin. Free will exists because it goes against the only true Will. Your free will dissipates if you approach the true will.
No. There's no robot serving Him. There's only the "I", the possessor of the true will which you are part of it.
Yes, without sin, free will does not exist. Amazing, how you messed up something which you already know with something you don't.
2007-05-18 21:58:19 · answer #5 · answered by Frontal Lobe 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Free will existed before man sinned. It is because we have free will that man sinned in the first place. Free will will never be "wiped out". God's intention was not to have thoughtless robots walking around but intelligent creatures made in his own image to for him to love and to love him.
2007-05-18 21:48:42 · answer #6 · answered by mindfullmom 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No -
free will involves the ability to make ANY choice - not just choices between right and wrong.
The choice about what to eat
what to wear
which route to take to work
whether to get up at 8:00 or 8:30 in the morning.
Those are choices. Without free will we would not decide even the mundane aspects of life.
2007-05-18 21:47:33 · answer #7 · answered by eliz_esc 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
There will be no sin in heaven, but there will be free will. Only those who, with their own free will, desire to obey God will be there in the first place. After you die, your soul will be in whatever state it was in at the point of death. If you have desired to obey and love God, you will be in that state in heaven. You couldn't go there without that frame of mind.
Sin enslaves the mind. If we trust Jesus to free of our sins, He will do so. Free will also entails responsibility to accept the consequences of our decisions or how we freely choose to live.
No one in heaven will want to sin; one is saved by Jesus before death.
I hope this makes sense.
2007-05-18 21:50:09 · answer #8 · answered by Prof Fruitcake 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No the angels are not robots
The Devil and his demons are all fallen angels
if they didn't have a choice then they couldn'y have fallen
And no, sin is the cause of free will
If there was no free will we wouldn't have the choice to sin
2007-05-18 21:47:19 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
Angels were created to serve God, they aren't robots though.
I don't think sin is the cause of free will, I think sin is the result of exercising free will.
2007-05-18 21:46:56 · answer #10 · answered by Squirrley Temple 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋