More Legal Immigration?

Question

In the recent bill, i've read that they're going to impliment a point system that would make immigration based on the benefit you make to the U.S. Economy. What do you think? Personally i think it's an interesting idea. That way we get more engineers, doctors, lawyers, etc.... That way we bring people who are beneficial to the economy instead of those draining services. Although there may be a problem with Americans loosing skilled high paying jobs to foreigners. What do you guys think?

Answer 1

We are doomed! Our government has failed us...both Reps and Dems have sold us down the river in the name of corporate earnings. The US will be much like Mexico. It will be run by a small number of super wealthy oligarchs and the rest of the people will be powerless serfs.

Bedtime for Democracy!

Answer 2

I'm still waiting to see the entire proposal. I don't trust all these little red-herrings that hide the true aspects of the proposal. For example, on the one hand 12-20 million illegal aliens will be given immediate work paper status. Then there are Z visas which will require these people to pay a $5,000 fine over an 8 year period (far too small and vague). It states that anyone who wasn't here on January 1, 2007 would not be eligibe for work visas. It doesn't state how the law would be enforced. Additionally, there is a provision for 400,000 more immigrants to come into the country every year. Where will we put all these people and how will we feed them? That's almost a half a million a year and we still have the others who are here and having babies. We have U.S. Citizens who are very-well qualified to take all of the engineering and high paying jobs and we have U.S. Citizen students who would love the opportunity to go to medical school or college on the taxpayer's dollar. Therefore, we need to fully employ all our U.S. Citizens and give them first opportunity for all these jobs -- regardless of what they are. Also U.S. Citizens should be trained first before we ever bring in a foreigner to do these jobs.

Remember that in 1986 we had 3 million illegal aliens residing and working in the USA. The laws were strengthened at that time but our treasonous government simply failed to have those laws enforced. The result? Today we have 12-20 million illegals and a 600% increase in our illegal immigration problem, not to mention the increased identity theft, the crime, the drugs, the loss of jobs, the inadequate medical care, inadequate education, higher taxes, higher gas prices, tainted food, etc.
We can blame the U.S. Government 100% for this failure and for the attacks of 9/11/01 and all these problems. Additionally, Mr. Chertoff (Homeland Security Director), claimed yesterday that he did not want to go after the maids and cooks and other hard working illegal immigrants. He wants to go after the terrorists and the drug dealers. However, one of the Ft. Dix six terrorists was a PIZZA DELIVERY PERSON and at least one resided in a Sanctuary City.

Until we can be assured that our laws are enforced none of these provisions, good or bad, will mean anything. They are simply words passed into law, put on paper, and then ignored until the problem either doesn't go away or until something else happens -- like, God forbid, another terrorist attack.

Most of us Citizens are not buying this garbage and we will accept nothing less than a show of true intent to enforce the laws by the government, ICE, INS, Homeland Security, et.al. . That intent will be measured by the number of illegal immigrants that are arrested, deported or held in custody pending other disposition. It will further be measured by the arrest, asset seizure and trials and fines for all corporations that hire, harbor and help illegal aliens and by the revocation of the tax exempt status of all churches that harbor illegal immigrant fugitives. The laws that enable the government to do this immediately are Section 8, USC 1324A and 274A of the INA in addition to the Organized crime statutes and other laws governing the actions of businesses and corporations.

Answer 3

More lawyers? Stop ALL immigration immediately! :) Lol

The point system is a charade. It sounds good, but it is a future event. The issue NOW is how do we absorb more than 12 million illegal immigrants already living in our country? Most of these people are poor, uneducated, and have few if any job skills.

Let's face it, our politicians, particularly Democrats, view immigrants, particularly Hispanics, as future voters. So the pols are trying to be heroes to the immigrant community so they will get those votes.

If the pending bill is passed, America is headed for the junk pile of history.

Answer 4

The USA that is standing today was built with blood ,sweat and tears of immigrants. Now the children of immigrants are the ones that do not want immigrants .If you are good you do not lose your job.Do you think you will really enjoy professional baseball if you get rid of all the foreign players.Do you think you would get your tooth fixed or heart checked if there are no foreign doctors.The list goes on.America should not drain the brain from poor countries . You would not stop doctors and likes of them walking into America from poor countries to save you while thousands of their country people are dying.
Besides the American Native Indians the rest of the population are rooted to immigrants

Answer 5

Selective immigration is nothing new and countries like the U.K. and Canada have long had a points-based system targeting skilled wokers in specific industries. The dept of labor keeps track of absorption rates of foreigh skilled workers into job categories listed as having a shortage....makes sure everythign is controled, regulated and is not punitive to competing domestic talent....

Answer 6

Every doctor I visit hasn't been born here but they did the paper work and followed the rules. Those who can't follow the rules and go through the process probably won't honor America anyway so why do they think they should be treated any different than any other immigrant? The following was copied from the application rules for immigration. I thought it was interesting. Instead of us conforming to their rules they need to follow ours. Foreigners have always been here that's why we're the melting pot. I think America needs to pull their head out and stop being so lenient with our laws. If you don't follow the law then you should have no rights, period!

Good Moral Character
Generally, an applicant must show that he or she has been a person of good moral character for the statutory period (typically five years or three years if married to a U.S. citizen or one year for Armed Forces expedite) prior to filing for naturalization. The Service is not limited to the statutory period in determining whether an applicant has established good moral character. An applicant is permanently barred from naturalization if he or she has ever been convicted of murder. An applicant is also permanently barred from naturalization if he or she has been convicted of an aggravated felony as defined in section 101(a)(43) of the Act on or after November 29, 1990. A person also cannot be found to be a person of good moral character if during the last five years he or she: has committed and been convicted of one or more crimes involving moral turpitude (vile, shameful, dishonest) has committed and been convicted of 2 or more offenses for which the total sentence imposed was 5 years or more has committed and been convicted of any controlled substance law, except for a single offense of simple possession of 30 grams or less of marijuana
has been confined to a penal institution during the statutory period, as a result of a conviction, for an aggregate period of 180 days or more has committed and been convicted of two or more gambling offenses is or has earned his or her principal income from illegal gambling is or has been involved in prostitution or commercialized vice is or has been involved in smuggling illegal aliens into the United States
is or has been a habitual drunkard is practicing or has practiced polygamy has willfully failed or refused to support dependents has given false testimony, under oath, in order to receive a benefit under the Immigration and Nationality Act.

An applicant must disclose all relevant facts to the Service, including his or her entire criminal history, regardless of whether the criminal history disqualifies the applicant under the enumerated provisions.

See Also INA 316

Attachment to the Constitution
An applicant must show that he or she is attached to the principles of the Constitution of the United States.

See Also INA 316

Language
Applicants for naturalization must be able to read, write, speak, and understand words in ordinary usage in the English language. Applicants exempt from this requirement are those who on the date of filing: have been residing in the United States subsequent to a lawful admission for permanent residence for periods totaling 15 years or more and are over 55 years of age; have been residing in the United States subsequent to a lawful admission for permanent residence for periods totaling 20 years or more and are over 50 years of age; or have a medically determinable physical or mental impairment, where the impairment affects the applicant’s ability to learn English.

See Also INA 312

United States Government and History Knowledge
An applicant for naturalization must demonstrate a knowledge and understanding of the fundamentals of the history and of the principles and form of government of the United States. Applicants exempt from this requirement are those who, on the date of filing, have a medically determinable physical or mental impairment, where the impairment affects the applicant’s ability to learn U.S. History and Government Applicants who have been residing in the U.S. subsequent to a lawful admission for permanent residence for at least 20 years and are over the age of 65 will be afforded special condsideration in satisfying this requirement.

Answer 7

Unlawful Entry is a CRIME. Zero tolerance for immigration-law violators! No amnesty, no "stealth-amnesty." No "change of status," marriage fraud, "exceptional leave to remain," no "Temporary Protected Status." If you break the law, depart or be deported. Illegal aliens kill more US citizens each year than the war in Iraq has killed in four years. Apologists for illegal immigration like to paint it as a victimless crime. But in fact, illegal immigration causes substantial harm to American citizens and legal immigrants, particularly those in the most vulnerable sectors of our population--the poor, minorities, and children. Additionally, job competition by waves of illegal immigrants willing to work at substandard wages and working conditions depresses the wages of American workers, hitting hardest at minority workers and those without high school degrees. Illegal immigration also contributes to the dramatic population growth overwhelming communities across America--crowding school classrooms, consuming already limited affordable housing, and straining precious natural resources like water, energy, and forestland. Taxpayers are being forced to pay for the free health care, education, and other welfare programs being given to illegal aliens; Those tax dollars could be given back to U.S. taxpayers or used to keep our borders secure; They may be here illegally, but they sure know how to "work the system" to collect "free" medical care, "free" education, "free" food, Section 8 housing vouchers and other housing assistance, and hundreds of other social services. It costs citizens additional hundreds of billions of tax dollars at every level: local, state, and federal. It gobbles up billions of our charitable contributions. And much of that money ends up siphoned out of our economy and into offshore accounts. Illegal aliens, over half of whom work "under the table" with neither job nor income reported (nor taxed), are not counted as employed or unemployed. But some of those day-labor and off-the-books "job-lets" would be "real" jobs - available to American citizen job-seekers - if employment regulations were enforced. Illegal aliens can get away with tax evasion, et al., which citizens cannot. In short, we have too many workforce entrants and too few jobs created. The ratio works out to roughly 7-10 workforce entrants per job created. If all illegal aliens depart or are deported, all legal immigration halted, and all temporary employment visas abolished, we still have a problem with more US-born workforce entrants than new jobs created. Illegal immigration damages our country and our citizens every day at every level. And not even the attacks of 2/26 and 9/11 have awakened many Americans to the vast dangers illegal immigration poses to our selves, our families, our communities, our society, our values, our principles, our civilization. Zero Tolerance for Immigration-Law Violators! We must remember the lessons of 2/26, 9/11, and the costs we bear every single day. God Bless the U S A !

Answer 8

Enforced how???? They can't enforce laws on the books now or secure the border. All the IM suggestions are band aid answers and not secure.

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Answer 9

I'm for it if it can be enforced. There's nothign wrong with a little competition. But yo ucan't compete with lawbreakers.

Answer 10

huge demands in the health care industry