Why do bad christians always excuse themselves with the 'they killed jesus' excuse like I was even alive then?

Question

Why don’t you just admit all of you that you are trying to make a class distinction and you need someone to blame for all of YOUR shortcomings? Jesus just wasn’t enough, you need someone here right now that you can see to blame and let be the scapegoat. You can’t believe that this other guy took the blame for everything you do wrong either, can you? That’s why you repeatedly blame others for things which you all do wrong. And if there’s a Jew handy, even better. And let’s not forget Israel. I don’t know how many emails I get from anti-Semitic haters wanting me to ‘convert’ to their way of thinking. Basically all of their emails fit into this box: Israel is always sneaking around blowing up our ships and our buildings and they are responsible for all of the wars, even though they were out of action for about 2,000 years and have only been back in action for 60 years.

I know that Jesus isn’t the Messiah for the following reasons:

1. When the Messiah comes, every knee shall bend and every heart shall know, INSTANTLY over the whole planet. (christian missionaries should be unnecessary if jesus was the messiah)
2. Isaiah 53 states that the true Messiah is without form that people may not look upon him. (original Hebrew in the TaNaKh)
3. When the Messiah comes, all of the animals will stop struggling against each other. The hunters will no longer eat the grazers. War shall cease. The temple will be restored, instantaneously. (When jesus lived, Roman hatred and restrictions were worse! Jews weren’t allowed in their own temple. Even the priests were Roman appointees and were not true Levites. When jesus died, Israel was razed to the ground. There is only the western wall remaining.)
4. The last supper and the christian sacrament based on it are blatant disobedience to the commandments to not partake of blood and to not eat human flesh. Even symbolically. Especially symbolically. ‘Avoid the very appearance of evil’. Jesus told his disciples to ‘Eat ……this is my body. Drink…….this is my blood.’
5. The paschal lamb was worshipped by the Egyptians as a god. That is why YHVH, the only real God in existence, chose a lamb to use as an object of sacrifice. That is why the Egyptians considered shepherds to be ‘filthy’ – because they would eat the Egyptian’s ‘gods’! The entire exodus episode was God reprimanding the Egyptians for their foolish worship of animals, stars, forces of nature and their own king. In fact, the Israelites eating the lamb symbolized how impotent the paschal lamb was which the Egyptians worshipped. To them ‘passover’ meant, don’t eat. To the Israelites, Passover came to mean they were excused from the punishment of Egypt and the loss of their firstborn because they didn’t worship the lamb. Christians frequently refer to jesus as the lamb of god.
6. God is all powerful and is not bound by anything. He will never cease to be God. He doesn’t need assistance from a trinity. He doesn’t take counsel from jesus or a holy spirit. He gives counsel. He alone decides if we will be forgiven because he alone can tell if we are sincere. It is possible to receive forgiveness without having anyone take any blame besides ourselves. It is possible to make restitution, and the steps to repentance are not arduous. They just require an honest effort.
7. The Messiah who comes will not be sacrificing himself. He will not be coming to be worshipped. He will be coming to save our lives during time of great war. He will only need one try to succeed. Jesus supposedly has to come back a second time to accomplish most of the things prophesied.

These are only some of the reasons I have decided not to agree with christianity. In my opinion it was an attempt to make a religion that was somewhere halfway between worship of God and paganism. There is a lot of paganism intertwined in christianity.

Answer 1

I agree with you on this one to a point. The bible is a good book and thats all it is. there are so many different things in it that are quite hard to swallow. I know there is someone up there watching down on us. And when my day comes to meet my maker I have a lot of questions that will hoefully be answered. After my first tour in the sand box I have a hard time believing.

Answer 2

Whoa! Not all Christians hated Jews (only the dumb ones do that) in fact many Christians respect Jews. Most Evangelicals help them anyway possible. Whenever I hear a fellow Christian say "Jews killed Jesus!" I turn to that person and say "Really? Well, what the f*k do you think Jesus was?!"
Roman Catholics believe when a Jewish person dies he or she will learn about Jesus so for them its only a matter of when (sooner or later). I am a Christian but have recently come to the conclusion that there will always be Jews as long as there will be an earth, because even though we Christians believe we're right I also believe that Jews even to this day are still God's chosen people like in the Torah. There is an old saying ' you don't know where you're going until you know where you've been.' I believe Jews & Christians are like the "before & after effect."

God Bless

P.S.-What do you think about this?
http://www.allaboutreligion.org/messianic-jew.htm

Answer 3

Typical. Instead of saying, oh, this Jew knows why she believes what she does, you're getting a bunch of challengers and criticism to continue to defend their opinion. Finally a Jew speaks up and tells us why they don't feel comfortable with the christian message and what happens? The only people responding are christians and the only response is anger or people correcting you.

I agree with you. It is not justice to blame others for our own shortcomings. I mean, who thinks it's fair to have someone else go to jail for Paris Hilton? Shouldn't she be responsible for her own mistakes? Same with jesus. God did not require that.

I don't think God required any human to be sacrificed. That is why he STOPPED Abraham. He only wanted to see if he would obey. And God, knowing everything, knew that the christians in the future would also try to use that story. Notice that God is SUBSTITUTING a lamb again for a human, just like he did for passover.

I agree. It's time to stop being quiet about this.

We have a right to what we believe too.

Christians do not have a right to monopolize religious freedoms, not in this country. If they can speak out, so can we.

If they can level philosophies on peoples heads, we can counter with our own.

We pay taxes too. We fight for freedom for this country too and always have. We came on the Mayflower too. I have direct ancestors, and they weren't protestant, and they weren't witches, they were jewesses, and they were accussed as witches for lighting the sabbath candles and praying in Hebrew. By the people who came here for religious freedom, isn't that ironic.

Stay loud and proud friend.

If everybody has to see long verbose christian messages in here, then the same people should have to see long verbose Jewish counter messages. There are two sides to every coin.

There is more than one system of belief. They should really wonder if they might be wrong instead.

Answer 4

I will try to answer your question as best I can- well, tell you my beliefs.
1. There will be a second coming of Christ, and that is when I believe this shall take place.
2. Jesus was wholly God and wholly Human- whollly God for in fact He could only be that if His sacrifice could be accepted as blemishless for all who believe, and wholly human because a sacrifice was necessary for any human to be cleansed of their sins; Jesus was the once-for-all sacrifice.
3. I believe this shall be true in Heaven- the Bible says there will be a new Heaven and a new Earth after His second coming.
4. There is no commandment saying not to drink blood and eat flesh. Jesus was not doing this as a form of cannibalism, but as a symbol of His power and His sacrifice.
5. You're rambling and I don't quite understand the point you're trying to make with this.
6. God isn't "assisted" by a Trinity- it is Him. This is incomprehensible by our human minds, but it's what He is- then again, if he was comprehendable, could be considered God or just a mere human?
7. Jesus came the first time providing the ultimate sacrifice for Christians so that they could get rid of the constant sacrificing they were having to do as atonement for their sins. People ask why Jesus didn't do everything in one time- but think about it. If Jesus came only once and didn't give us a chance to be forgiven, we'd be caught in our sins and sentenced to eternal damnation. Jesus did not "have" to come back a second time, He chose to, to give us a second chance.

Answer 5

I am a Christian !! ........ When I say " I am a Christian " , I`m not shouting " I`m saved " , I`m whispering " I`m lost " , That is why I chose this way ..... When I say " I am a Christian ", I`m not trying to be strong , I`m professing I`m weak , and pray to carry on ...... When I say " I am a Christian ", I don`t speak of it because of pride , I`m confessing I stumble , and need someone to be my guild ......When I say " I am a Christian ", I`m not bragging of success , I`m admitting I have failed , and cannot ever pay the debt .... When I say " I am a Christian " , I`m not claiming to be perfect , my flaws are too visible , but God believes I`m worth it .... When I say " I am a Christian ", I still feel the sting of pain , I have my share of heartaches, which is why I seek His name .... When I say " I am a Christain " , I do not wish to judge , I have no authority , I only know God loves me ...

Answer 6

Well I disagree with you about Jesus not being the Messiah, the NT explains numerous prophecies that he fulfilled (I won't bother listing them since obviously you won't change your mind). That said, Jesus said no man took his life (John 10:17-18), so since he didn't blame Jews no one else has any business doing so. And I think you'll find most actual Christians don't, it's pseudo-christian cultists like aryan churches, "christian" identity, kkk and others (who actually agree with you that Jesus isn't God) who try to blame Jews for Jesus's death (and of course every other problem on earth). Most true Christians support Israel's right to exist, i.e.:

Deputy Mayor Yigal Amedi and Knesset Member (MK) Dr. Yuri Shtern joined religious leaders in recognizing nearly 100 Christians gathered at the Wall, for their dedication and support for the nation of Israel. Many of those recognized were also commissioned - under the sanctioning of the city of Jerusalem - as official "Watchmen on the Wall."

"These watchmen are a new breed of Christians," Robert Stearns said from the ceremonies in Jerusalem last week. "With the full weight of the government of the city of Jerusalem behind us, we are witnessing the fulfillment, in a new dimension, of ancient biblical prophecies."

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This past Sunday was the International Day of Prayer for the Peace of Jerusalem and 100,000 churches worldwide joined together in intercession for the Holy Land.

A report by ANS states that "tens of millions" of people around the world "stood in the gap" on Sunday, praying in solidarity for Israel, on the Day of Prayer for the Peace of Jerusalem (DPPJ).

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CWNews reports on a two-day summit named Asia II, which was held in Seoul, South Korea, with almost 500 pastors from Korean churches in attendance, as well as Jewish political leaders from Jerusalem. The gathering was the second meeting held to foster better communication between the two faiths.

Two of the goals of the Korean Christian members of the National Assembly were to gain a greater understanding of what Israel is going through with the pullout in Gaza and the West Bank and to better understand a joint resolution, which would be declared.

By the end of the conference, the Koreans were in full support of the resolution that commits them to take a stronger stance in backing the Jewish state, as well as, promoting trade, tourism and also spiritual ties to Israel.

More summits are being planned in Asia for next year, and they may also be extended to South Africa and Europe.

Shalom...

Answer 7

Jesus was a Jew too.

Answer 8

Fellow Christians this one needs prayer. Enough said.