I wasnt going to post an answer to this question. I'm still not going to. But I am going to respond to something that Achtung above says. So, if you rate my "answer" keep in mind that I am responding to Him and not the overall question itself.
Achtung says something so incredibley naive that I cant believe he actually put it "in print".
To Quote: "Jehovahs Witnesses believe that Jesus, the Apostles, and other Christian Bible Writers must have used the Divine Name in their speech and in their writings. Sadly, the original greek manuscripts of the Christian Greek Scriptures (the so-called New Testament) have never been found."
I have never seen a more clear statement from a Jehovah Witness that goes to prove the point that they follow an Organization, rather than follow Almighty God.
The idea of Jesus, the Diciples, and the early Christians going around and causally using the "name" of God in conversation and writings, betrays a shocking ignorance of first century Judaism. The only reason Jesus "got away" (humanly speaking of course) with using the term Father was because of the Pharisees confusion of exactly what He meant or who He was refering to. At least until towards the end of His Ministry.
Since there are over 25,000 Manuscripts and/or portions of the New Testament, and none of them contain the "YWHW" or "Jehovah" then obviously they (ANY manuscripts containing those names) never existed. The only reason Achtung believes that they must have existed at one time is because "the Watchtower told him so".
By believing this, by default it follows that he believes in a "god" that is not capable of preserving His Word. If God wanted the name "Jehovah" in the New Testament, then it WOULD BE IN the New Testament. The "Jehovah" of the Watchtower is a very weak, puny god.
So basically this is the Jehovah Witness "argument" concerning the name "Jehovah" & the New Testament:
"Jehovah is Gods name. Jesus and the Apostles used this name. But since there is no manuscript or historical evidence that they ever did use this name, I'm going to believe that they did, because the Watchtower Org tells me they did."
Achtung and other Witnesses want us to believe that they are not "brainwashed" and "controled" by that Organization, and yet will believe anything that the Watchtower tells them, even if it is contradicted by 25,000 manuscript copies and the Historical Record.
Achtung, with that one paragraph, you have lost ALL credibility with regards to being an "independent thinker and free agent" with your own mind.
(If I were you I would "delete" that portion of your answer so its not a matter of public record anymore. I will be refering to it again in the future).
...theBerean
2007-05-18 15:47:55
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answered by theBerean 5
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hi, For each and every of the folk right here claiming that God's own call is Jehovah.... you're incorrect. The closet translation into the English language is Yahweh. Jehovah is a hybrid call combining the term Adonia and JHVH. that may not the genuine call. The identify LORD interior the recent testomony is an on the spot translation from the earliest manuscripts, so it wasn't got rid of as a results of fact the JW'S declare. It became positioned there that way. it is basically thought it is became got rid of interior the recent testomony, so the JW'S are as quickly as returned twisting scripture. basically attempting to coach the JW'S right here as a results of fact they actually do no longer understand what they're speaking approximately. they attempt to sound clever yet as a effect background is working against them. hi gray Tower, You my woman genuinely understand what you're speaking approximately. No ask your self the JW'S are so knotted up while it consists of understanding Scripture. The JW'S do no longer understand from now on suited. This lie is what they're taught genuine from the beginning up. and that they've printed their own Bible so it backs up what they're advised. in the event that they hear a lie sufficient situations, it become certainty to them. basically ask them, they are going to inform you precisely what they have been advised despite if it is a lie. Very unhappy this brainwashing technique.
2016-11-24 21:10:56
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answer #2
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answered by Anonymous
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Actually Globetrotter is a little in error.
example to translate "Susan es muy importante" from Spanish into english it would read "Susan is very important"
Why because Susan is a name and it is already in English.
Jehovah is a name and is already in English.
This means the list below should read:
Jehovah Jireh=Jehovah the Provider
Jehovah Elohim=Jehovah is Self-sufficient
Jehovah Adonai=Jehovah is Master
Jehovah Nissi=Jehovah our Banner (protection)
Jehovah Rapheka=Jehovah, our Healer
Jehovah Shalom=Jehovah is Peace
Jehovah Tsikidkenu=Jehovah is our Righteousness
Jehovah Mekaldishken=Jehovah is our Sanctifier
Jehovah Saboath= Jehovah is the Lord of Hosts
Jehovah Shammah=Jehovah is the Lord Present
Jehovah Elyon=Jehovah is the Most High
Jehovah Rohi=Jehovah is our Shepherd
Jehovah Eloheem=the (true) God Jehovah
Jehovah Eloheka=Jehovah your God
Jehovah Elohay=our God Jehovah
These are qualities of the one true God, Jehovah!
A good way to recongize a title from a name is try to add "the" before the word.
the God = Title
the Jesus = doesn't work, Jesus is a name
the Lord = Title
the Jehovah = doesn't work, Jehovah is a name.
2007-05-18 01:49:48
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answer #3
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answered by TeeM 7
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It is sad that you agree with "Honest Chris" with his derogative name-calling of Christians. Here is a list of Names of God in Hebrew and their meanings:
Jehovah Jireh=God the Provider
Jehovah Elohim=God is Self-sufficient
Jehovah Adonai=God is Master
Jehovah Nissi=God, our Banner (protection)
Jehovah Rapheka=God, our Healer
Jehovah Shalom=God is Peace
Jehovah Tsikidkenu=God is our Righteousness
Jehovah Mekaldishken=God is our Sanctifier
Jehovah Saboath= He is the Lord of Hosts
Jehovah Shammah=He is the Lord Present
Jehovah Elyon=God is the Most High
Jehovah Rohi=God is our Shepherd
Jehovah Hoseenu= God is our Jehovah
Jehovah Eloheem=the Lord, our God
Jehovah Eloheka=the Lord, thy God
Jehovah Elohay=my God
I hope this satisfies your curiosity.
Do you love him? I hope so.
I love him so much that I do not need to know his names and reputation because I really know him personally and talk to him daily (prayer.) He is my Heavenly Father and my Friend. He has been with me over these 46 yrs since I accepted Jesus as my Savior, and see me through all sorts of situations both good and bad. He has been faithful to help me through it all. So I do not question his reputation. He has proved to me his goodness and greatness, without me even asking him to prove it. He loves you and he loves me and he loves everyone who rejects him including scoffers like "honest Chris."
2007-05-18 00:37:06
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answer #4
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answered by Globetrotter 3
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Dear JoJo,
Like theBerean I wasn't going to answer this one either. I did give your excellent question a star to bring it to the attention of my Contacts but I am SO tired of constant advertizing on the part of so many of those who have answered your question.
But I just read theBerean's FANTASTIC answer and I want to answer just for the sake of parking your question in an easy to find place on my profile. I will definitely want to read your question and his answer again and again!
These days I have little time to study the Bible as I did when I lived alone. Now I live with my daughter, her husband and their 18 month old son. I have a great time playing with my grandson and teaching him many things which only leaves me time to read The Daily Walk Bible each day (I'm currently in the book of Job). I tell you this because even though I do think of God's nature, I really don't have much energy to think beyond Father and Abba Father.
Yesterday I spent an hour just pushing my grandson in his swing. He was still signing "More" when I told him my arms needed a rest. I spent another hour holding his hand as he walked back and forth across a path of boxes we had pushed together. Then we spent the rest of our time together reading and rereading such books as the Sesame Street "Going Places" book.
I come to my heavenly Father with great eagerness and trust that He will protect me and teach me and be with me and I do this in obedience to Jeremiah 3:19 following my LORD and Savior's example. I come as a little child. My grandson does not know my name but when he hears my voice he comes running. When my daughter says to him "Where is grandma" he comes running to find me.
I pray that the people who don't yet have a clue to how wonderful it is to be in a right Relationship with the Creator will hear His voice and allow Him to be their Father before another day is lost.
Thank you for asking.
I'm hoping that you give theBerean the Best answer and that he gets 50 Thumbs Up!
For His glory,
JOYfilled
2007-05-19 02:33:10
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answer #5
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answered by JOYfilled - Romans 8:28 7
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Lord, Father, King and lot more is Gods title or n-name but he has personal name(Jehovah).
2 Corinthians 8:5,6"for even though there are those who called "gods" whether in heaven and on earth,just as there are many gods and lords.but ther is actually one God the Father(Jehovah) and there is one Lord Jesus Christ.
the rulers of the country, You can call them kings, majesty,lord,etc.so when we pray it is very important to say Gods true name as even Satan call his name as god of the world, 2 Corinthians 4:4.
Romans 10:13"Everyone who call on the name of Jehovah will be save.
Ezekiel 39:6-"People will have to know that I am Jehovah"
being a Christian not a guarantee to be save!
Jesus said;
Matthew 7:22,23"many will say to me that day ,Lord,Lord,did we not prophesy in your name and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?and yet then I(Jesus) will confess to them :I never knew you!get away from me you workers of lawlessness"
2007-05-18 00:49:53
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answer #6
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answered by faith 3
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Gods reputation is not a humans perception of attitude.
"God is perfection"
2007-05-18 00:47:28
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answered by PENMAN 5
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At Revelation 19:1-6, nearly every edition of the so-called "New Testament" includes "Jah", the shortened form of the Divine Name "Jehovah". Some bibles refuse to translate these expressions correctly as "Praise Jah", leaving the untranslated "Hallelu-jah" or "Hallelujah" without its obvious connection to "Jah Jehovah".
(Isaiah 12:2) Jah Jehovah is my strength and my might
(Isaiah 26:4) Trust in Jehovah, you people, for all times, for in Jah Jehovah is the Rock of times indefinite.
Like the prophets Isaiah and Moses (e.g. Ps 83:18), Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Jesus, the apostles, and the other Christian bible writers must have used the divine name in their speech and in their writings. Sadly, the original Greek manuscripts of the Christian Greek Scriptures (the so-called "New Testament") have never been found.
(John 17:26) [Jesus said] I have made your name known to them and will make it known, in order that the love with which you loved me may be in them
(Matthew 6:8,9) God your Father knows what things you are needing before ever you ask him. 9 “You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.
Think about it: Jesus and his apostles must have been extraordinarily familiar with the Hebrew Scriptures (the "Old Testament"), and the evidence is that they frequently quoted from these writings. The Hebrew Scriptures use the divine name SEVEN THOUSAND TIMES; would Jesus and his apostles have skipped over "Yahweh" or "Jehovah" when it appeared in the text they were quoting?
Perhaps the most revealing passage is to note the way that Luke 4:18,19 quotes from Isaiah 61:1,2. Scholars universally concede that the passage in Isaiah uses the divine Name and even repeats that Name; Jesus and his audience all understood Hebrew and the scroll was almost certainly in Hebrew (although that is immaterial). Clearly, when Jesus actually read the Isaiah passage he would hardly have replaced his Father's personal name with a generic term (such as the corrupters of Luke's Gospel have done).
(Luke 4:16-21) [Jesus] entered into the synagogue, and he stood up to read. 17 So the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed him, and he opened the scroll and found the place where it was written: 18 “Jehovah’s spirit is upon me, because he anointed me to declare good news to the poor, he sent me forth to preach a release to the captives and a recovery of sight to the blind, to send the crushed ones away with a release, 19 to preach Jehovah’s acceptable year.” 20 With that he rolled up the scroll, handed it back to the attendant and sat down; and the eyes of all in the synagogue were intently fixed upon him. 21 Then he started to say to them: “Today this scripture that you just heard is fulfilled.”
(Isaiah 61:1,2) The spirit of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah is upon me, for the reason that Jehovah has anointed me to tell good news to the meek ones. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to those taken captive and the wide opening of the eyes even to the prisoners; 2 to proclaim the year of goodwill on the part of Jehovah
As in Luke chapter 4, the New World Translation is quite careful to ONLY render the divine name when a verse or phrase in the Christian Greek (NT) Scriptures seems to quote or refer to a Hebrew (OT) Scripture with the divine Name. That is why the OT has almost 7000 occurrences of "Jehovah" while the NT has less than 300.
An additional example is the way the Apostle Paul at Romans 10:13 quotes Joel 2:32.
(Romans 10:13) For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved"
(Joel 2:32) And it must occur that everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will get away safe (see also Zeph 3:9)
Essentially, the New World Bible Translation Committee believed that it is preferable to err (if that is what they did) on the side of magnifying the divine name, rather than share in perpetuating a superstition that hides it.
The name "Jehovah" is an English translation of the Hebrew name pronounced as or similar to "Yahweh" or "Yehowah"; the exact original pronunciation is unknown. The four Hebrew characters corresponding to the letters "YHWH" are well-recognized as the biblical personal name of Almighty God, and are universally designated as "the Tetragrammaton" or "the Tetragram".
For centuries, most Jews have superstitiously refrained from pronouncing aloud any form of the divine Name. They base that superstition on the third of the Ten Commandments given to Moses:
(Exodus 20:7) You must not take up the name of Jehovah your God in a worthless way
http://watchtower.org/e/bible/ex/chapter_020.htm?bk=Ex;chp=20;vs=7;citation#bk7
Over the centuries, that Jewish superstition has expanded to also forbid writing or engraving any form of "YHWH", even when simply copying from one of the nearly 7000 occurrences in the Hebrew Scriptures. In recent centuries, some superstitious Jews have even forbade unabbreviated EUPHEMISMS for "YHWH"; capitalized terms such as "Tetragrammaton" and (amazingly) even "the Name" are forbidden by such superstitions, and they even insist that "God" must be written as "G~d".
Naturally, the religious and superstitious practices of a person are between him and his Creator. However, in recent decades these superstitious Jews have worked to impose their superstitious sensibilities beyond their religious communities, and onto the entire populace. Thus, although "YHWH' is unanimously recognized as the personal name of God, few today use any form of it in their writings and conversation.
Interestingly, Christendom has largely joined with superstitious Jews in suppressing the use of "Yahweh" and "Jehovah". However, it seems that Christendom's anti-YHWH bias largely devolves from their hatred of Jehovah's Witnesses, the religion almost single-handedly responsible for the growing public recognition that the Almighty God of Judaism and Christianity actually does have a personal name.
It seems that too many are more interested in coddling superstition than in allowing intellectual honesty and respect for the Almighty.
Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/na/index.htm?article=article_06.htm
http://watchtower.org/e/20040122/
2007-05-18 11:02:56
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answered by achtung_heiss 7
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I think it is very important to know the different names of God because each name describes a different aspect of His many-faceted character. It helps with prayer to know him better.
Here are some of the better known names of God in the Bible:
EL, ELOAH: God "mighty, strong, prominent" (Genesis 7:1; Isaiah 9:6) – Etymologically, El appears to mean power, as in “I have the power to harm you” (Genesis 31:29). El is associated with other qualities, such as integrity (Numbers 23:19), jealousy (Deuteronomy 5:9), and compassion (Nehemiah 9:31), but the root idea of might remains.
ELOHIM: God “Creator, Mighty and Strong” (Genesis 17:7; Jeremiah 31:33) – The plural form of Eloah, which is accommodating of the doctrine of the Trinity. From the Bible’s first sentence, the superlative nature of God’s power is evident as God (Elohim) speaks the world into existence (Genesis 1:1).
EL SHADDAI: “God Almighty,” “The Mighty One of Jacob” (Genesis 49:24; Psalm 132:2,5) – Speaks to God’s ultimate power over all.
ADONAI: “Lord” (Genesis 15:2; Judges 6:15) – Used in place of YHWH, which was thought by the Jews to be too sacred to be uttered by sinful men. In the Old Testament, YHWH is more often used in God’s dealings with His people, while Adonai is used more when He deals with the Gentiles.
YHWH / YAHWEH / JEHOVAH: “LORD” (Deuteronomy 6:4; Daniel 9:14) – Strictly speaking, the only proper name for God. Translated in English Bibles “LORD” (all capitals) to distinguish it from Adonai “Lord.” The revelation of the name is first given to Moses “I Am who I Am” (Exodus 3:14). This name specifies an immediacy, a presence. Yahweh is present, accessible, near to those who call on Him for deliverance (Psalm 107:13), forgiveness (Psalm 25:11) and guidance (Psalm 31:3).
YAHWEH-JIREH: "The Lord will Provide" (Genesis 22:14) – The name memorialized by Abraham when God provided the ram to be sacrificed in place of Isaac.
YAHWEH-RAPHA: "The Lord Who Heals" (Exodus 15:26) – “I am Jehovah who heals you” both in body and soul. In body, by preserving from diseases, and by curing them when afflicted with them and in soul, by pardoning their iniquities.
YAHWEH-NISSI: "The Lord Our Banner" (Exodus 17:15), where banner is understood to be a rallying place. This name commemorates the desert victory over the Amalekites in Exodus 17.
YAHWEH-M'KADDESH: "The Lord Who Sanctifies, Makes Holy" (Leviticus 20:8; Ezekiel 37:28) – God makes it clear that He alone, not the law, could cleanse His people and make them holy.
YAHWEH-SHALOM: "The Lord Our Peace" (Judges 6:24) – The name given by Gideon to the altar he built after the Angel of the Lord assured him he would not die as he thought he would after seeing Him.
YAHWEH-ELOHIM: "LORD God" (Genesis 2:4; Psalm 59:5) – Combination of God’s unique name YHWH and the generic “Lord,” signifying that He is the Lord of Lords.
YAHWEH-TSIDKENU: "The Lord Our Righteousness” (Jeremiah 33:16) – As with YHWH-M’Kaddesh, it is God alone who provides righteousness to man, ultimately in the person of His Son, Jesus Christ, who became sin for us “that we might become the Righteousness of God in Him” (2 Corinthians 5:21).
YAHWEH-ROHI: "The Lord Our Shepherd" (Psalm 23:1) – After David pondered his relationship as a shepherd to his sheep, he realized that was exactly the relationship God had with him, and so he declares “Yahweh-Rohi is my Shepherd. I shall not want” (Psalm 23:1).
YAHWEH-SHAMMAH: "The Lord is There” (Ezekiel 48:35) – The name ascribed to Jerusalem and the Temple there, indicating that the once departed glory of the Lord (Ezekiel 8—11) had returned (Ezekiel 44:1-4).
YAHWEH-SABAOTH: "The Lord of Hosts" (Isaiah 1:24; Psalm 46:7) – “Hosts” means hordes, both of angels and of men. He is Lord of the host of heaven, and of the inhabitants of the earth, of Jews and Gentiles, of rich and poor, master and slave. The name is expressive of the majesty, power, and authority of God and shows that he is able to accomplish what he determines to do.
EL ELYON: “Most High" (Deuteronomy 26:19) – Derived from the Hebrew root for “go up” or “ascend,” so the implication is of that which is the very highest. El Elyon denotes exaltation and speaks of absolute right to lordship.
EL ROI: "God of Seeing" (Genesis 16:13) – The name ascribed to God by Hagar, alone and desperate in the wilderness after being driven out by Sarah (Genesis 16:1-14), when she met the Angel of the Lord and realized she had seen God Himself in a theophany. She realized that El Roi saw her in her distress and testified that He is a God who lives and sees all.
EL-OLAM: "Everlasting God" (Psalm 90:1-3) – God’s nature is without beginning or end, free from all constraints of time and contains within Himself the very cause of time itself. “From everlasting to everlasting, You are God.”
EL-GIBHOR: “Mighty God” (Isaiah 9:6) – The name describing the Messiah, Christ Jesus, in this prophetic portion of Isaiah. As a powerful and mighty warrior, the Messiah, the Mighty God, will accomplish the destruction of God’s enemies and rule with a rod of iron (Revelation 19:15).
2007-05-18 04:11:00
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answered by Freedom 7
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I know one thing, Christians are mindless puppets for sure.
2007-05-18 00:10:55
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answered by Honest christian 2
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